Looking for some advice on Pitcher Consistency slider..

[chuckm1961]

Re: Looking for some advice on Pitcher Consistency slider..

Ever notice if you're ahead 2-0 and the cpu throws a fat changeup down the middle and you wince and say "darn, I could have killed that pitch!" Well the next pitch is usually a perfectly thrown strike on the black in the corner that you can't possibly hit. Now you're 2-2. You just wintnessed what happens when you fail to punish the cpu. Chances are you've blown any chance of walking.

I have seen this in action.

But I refuse to accept it, and keep working to find ******* that will change it. Because that is not real baseball.

In that 2-2 situation, at least SOME****S, the pitcher should throw two more balls and walk me.

My eye has gotten pretty good....and I have CPU Consistency at +2, Control at -4 and Strike Frequency at -3 ... and I still don't walk enough. Some will say it's just me, but damn, I wish the CPU would throw more balls. Especially if there is a man on base, you can expect strike after strike after strike ... often with pinpoint corner placement.

[aga11ah]

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I have seen this in action.

My eye has gotten pretty good....and I have CPU Consistency at +2, Control at -4 and Strike Frequency at -3 ... and I still don't walk enough. Some will say it's just me, but damn, I wish the CPU would throw more balls. Especially if there is a man on base, you can expect strike after strike after strike ... often with pinpoint corner placement.

YES. perfect example yester***.. I get my 1st two hitters on then up comes Ryan Braun and Prince Fielder.. pitcher puts both in a quick 0-2 hole with the infamous CPU strikes (we all know where the location is, low and in, low and away but up from the low zone u can select) but yeah... the CPU pitching needs tweaking. I can live with that if it's an ace.. but every pitcher does it.

[abcabc]

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I'm 100% with him too. Lowering Control gives better results.

I can write a novel about it...

so i came off of a 3 game set my NYY vs NYMets, I was 1-2, the two losses, one was a 0-4 shutout at me, the other loss was something like 1-4, the Mets taking my NYY into the 8th w/ a NO hitter... batted under .200 for the series as well. next came against the twins.... up to the 6th inning against Carl Pavano... 0-3 Twins, I then changed control to 4 and consistency at 5 (away from Psycho's settings as I use his set)...
7th inning I get 5 runs, 2 homeruns lol, 5 hits, took the lead 5-3. Ended game 6 to 4. Gonna try another few games...

[BIG CAROLINA]

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I'm the opposite. I have CPU pitching sliders at ZERO and love it. They throw too many strikes otherwise.

Yes, I sometimes feel like I'm seeing artificial balls way out of the zone, but that's important for me to help drive the cpu pitch count up. I don't mind the fact that I get a break every once in awhile and its easy to tell a ball is a ball. Otherwise, it takes, literally, superhuman concentration (which gives me a headache) on every single pitch to determine balls and strikes.

When I played, I only had to concentrate like that 4 or 5 times a game, and even then, I had an inning or two between at bats to mentally relax. Since we are controlling every single at bat, there is no such break.

I love it at ZERO and am still not seeing it damage the cpu at all. Pitchers still make me work for it and aces are still aces. I can draw walks now but not unrealistically, maybe 2 a game, sometimes 2plus.

Man I just want to thank you for posting this. I do not know if I am just seeing what i want to see, but the 1st game trying this I had 5 walks and should/could have had more.

I have never had 5 walks in a game. I know it's just one game but i have played 11 so far and never had 3 walks in a game. Anyone who is having a hard time walking just try it out.

[chuckm1961]

Re: Looking for some advice on Pitcher Consistency slider..

All three CPU pitching sliders at zero (-5 from default?): Pitching control, pitching consistency and strike frequency?

PItcher control at -5 is going to lead to WAAAAY too many wild pitches, passed balls ....

[BIG CAROLINA]

Re: Looking for some advice on Pitcher Consistency slider..

All three CPU pitching sliders at zero (-5 from default?): Pitching control, pitching consistency and strike frequency?

PItcher control at -5 is going to lead to WAAAAY too many wild pitches, passed balls ....

That's what I was afraid of too but after 1 game so far so good. I am about to test this out a couple more games and adjust if necessary.

opps i have control at 2 sorry.

[abcabc]

Re: Looking for some advice on Pitcher Consistency slider..

Man I just want to thank you for posting this. I do not know if I am just seeing what i want to see, but the 1st game trying this I had 5 walks and should/could have had more.

I have never had 5 walks in a game. I know it's just one game but i have played 11 so far and never had 3 walks in a game. Anyone who is having a hard time walking just try it out.

what level are you playing at, vet, allstar? i'm on allstar and i barely get 1-3 a game, but i think for me w/ the settings so low i dont have to work a walk. does it take you less than about 5-8 pitches during an atbat to draw the walk?

[ParisB]

Re: Looking for some advice on Pitcher Consistency slider..

All three CPU pitching sliders at zero (-5 from default?): Pitching control, pitching consistency and strike frequency?

PItcher control at -5 is going to lead to WAAAAY too many wild pitches, passed balls ....

no its not, man

i've been playing with control at 0 for a while now, and i'm having a blast....it really adds separation from the aces and the lower tiered guys....i give up 3-5 walks now, and feel like i can draw walks by working the count without the constant corner strike barrage from the robo cpu.

i see spot on ptch counts, k%, bb, fouls etc with my sliders

p.s.- i have consistency at 7, which is what causes wp's, passed balls, and beaned batters

[BleacherCreature]

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I've gone back to all default sliders and it's working really well for me with pitching.
I find if I let a CPU pitcher get into a groove it's very hard to hit him. If I keep swinging at the first pitch right frim the beginning of the game the CPU will throw that pitch out of the zone and i will get nothing for it.
But if I constantly take the first pitch the CPU will continuously throw first pitch strikes. So by the 3rd or 4th inning I am ready to start swinging at the first pitch if it's right there. Once I start hitting the first pitch the CPU will start to nibble, which is when I can be patient and it leads to walks or very good hitters counts.
I find at default the aces are still separated from the 4th and 5th starters, and the lesser quality relievers. When messing with the sliders I felt I made the lesser pitchers even more lesserer(rererer). When I reached the end of my rotation I was getting killed. Joba Chamberlain turned into a slow-pitch softball pitcher, everything was getting hit hard and he was getting lit up like a christmas tree.
Speaking for myself I was too quick to jump into playing with sliders before really ever playing the game.

[jsou4646]

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After playing around 100 games i use 10 for consist, 2 pitch control, 2 strike freq for both. This seems pretty solid for me. I have charted a ton of games in my life and really like these settings. I may even try lowering the control but really like the other settings. I use classic pitching.

[the_riot]

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This might not work for everybody, but I play on all star with pitch speed at 0. I have pitcher control and consistency both at seven. The only other slider adjustments are solid hits at 0 and power at 3.

The slow pitch speed gives me more time to judge balls and strikes, and allows me to fight off pitches in two strike counts to extend at bats. Last night I was Arizona against Chris Young, and I got dominated, only getting one hit and striking out seven or eight times, yet I still managed to draw 3 walks.

Again, the low pitch speed may not be an option for better players, but it really balances the game out nicely for me.

[pberardi]

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Lower pitch speed helps alot of people in this game. I still can't turn on a 95mph fastball but I can foul it off to stay alive with lower pitch speed.

Last year, zero was an absolute for me. However, lowering the pitch speed is making offspeed stuff murder for me this year. The key is to look for offspeed up in the zone and not down.

It also allows you to wait that split second on 2-2 and 3-2 counts to draw walks as you can delay your swing and pick up the slider as it breaks away from the zone.

Of course a perfectly placed pitch will still get ya!

[chuckm1961]

Re: Looking for some advice on Pitcher Consistency slider..

Classic pitching, and still not seeing enough walks on either side. Hit on Veteran and Pitch on All-Star.

Typical game lately is 1 walk allowed, 1 walk received per game.

I've been at Default on PItch Control and Consistency, with CPU Strike Frequency at 2 (-3 from Default).

If I don't get this adjusted soon, I will (as usual with this game in past years) end up leading the league in least walks allowed and least walks received.

I DO NOT THINK THE PROBLEM IS MY HITTING. I use Guess Pitch, and have a good eye.

I've studies multiple Sliders Sets, and I've seen two approaches... some have Control at about 6 and Consistency at about 8. Others have Control way down at about 2 and Consistency at 10, with Strike Frequency about 2.

Anyone else had my problem, and found success with anything? I really, really, really wanna start seeing some walks ... on BOTH sides.

[BleacherCreature]

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Default for both human and CPU.
I get about 3 walks per game and allow around 4 or 5.

I've had only 1 game where strike % was over 70% for the CPU or myself. I've seen them as low as 52% for me and 58% for the CPU.
Drawing walks is not about having a good eye or patience. It's about willpower! Not swinging at that perfect 2-0 fastball right down the middle can be torture but to get walks it has to be done. It's like trying to eat better but working in a bakery. It's hard not to go for that busted muffin top.

[chuckm1961]

Re: Looking for some advice on Pitcher Consistency slider..

Drawing walks is not about having a good eye or patience. It's about willpower! Not swinging at that perfect 2-0 fastball right down the middle can be torture but to get walks it has to be done.

You're not saying I should never swing at a 2-0 fastball right down the middle?

Right?

It seems to me that's the only way to draw walks in this game ... to have a laser-beam focus on NOTHING ELSE but drawing walks, and .. oh, maybe, swinging at pitches as a second-tier priority.