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  • dawgpatch
    Rookie
    • Feb 2004
    • 28

    #1

    CPU vs CPU

    Anyone have a good set of these sliders? I know its early but wanted to see if anyone has or been working on them... Thanks
  • DaiYoung
    Rookie
    • Feb 2003
    • 200

    #2
    Re: CPU vs CPU

    Have played 35 games CPU vs CPU all at default settings to get a feel for what needs altering.

    I'm going to get to 50 games before I change anything but so far I've seen a few too many extra base hits, not enough SB attempts and not quite enough errors. HBP are also way down this year compared to '10, have only seen five in 35 games - that might not be fixable. Other than that, default is good: K/BB totals are spot on, WP are fine, steal success rate is fixed from last year.

    One slider that I am very likely to turn down is the wind effect slider. It appears that there are too many games with a strong wind and also the wind has too much effect on fly balls. Of the 35 games I've played, 8 have featured outward winds of 15mph or greater. In those 8 games there have been 39 home runs hit, way above the MLB average. From what I've read, in real life the wind doesn't have that much impact.

    Good news for CPU vs CPU fans is that the bullpen logic has been reworked successfully. You won't now see teams trot out the same reliever game after game. Also good news is that outfield errors do now occur which wasn't the case last year. I even saw Xavier Nady make two errors in one game whilst in LF.

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    • td7
      Rookie
      • Apr 2007
      • 487

      #3
      Re: CPU vs CPU

      Sounds good, keep us updated with your progress. Have you noticed the computer swinging alot at the first pitch? It seems to happen quite often.
      You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his *ss quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O. as a team! That's what people know us as! - Nick Saban

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      • dawgpatch
        Rookie
        • Feb 2004
        • 28

        #4
        Re: CPU vs CPU

        Cool...Let me know how you make out with them.... I'm a cpu vs cpu guy myself....

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        • nomo17k
          Permanently Banned
          • Feb 2011
          • 5735

          #5
          Re: CPU vs CPU

          I'll be trying to do my own slider adjustment and now starting with CPU vs CPU purely based on stats. I'll update a thread in this subforum soon as I rack up enough stats for an initial impression, so please feel free to add feedback.

          So far, so good, though the offense numbers and BB/K seems a bit off...
          The Show CPU vs. CPU game stats: 2018,17,16,15,14,13,12,11

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          • kingdevin
            MVP
            • Mar 2005
            • 1110

            #6
            Re: CPU vs CPU

            I do wish that MOM was on exhibition mode. If you watch cpu v cpu on exhibition mode you are forced to watch the broadcast fielding angle. I prefer medium or high. Another thing is it would be nice on MOM or cpu mode when using the broadcast camera for hitting if there was a delay once the batter made contact before the camera switched. If that happened, I could enjoy that cam angle better

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            • Ninjoid
              MVP
              • Jan 2003
              • 2101

              #7
              Re: CPU vs CPU

              Be interested to see what you've got Dai....I've been using my sliders from last year and there's something not quite right, can't put my finger on it yet.

              But certainly be good to see what you've got...I think between us last year we had some pretty good ones.
              Dedicated member of the CPU v CPU worldwide brethren.

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              • DaiYoung
                Rookie
                • Feb 2003
                • 200

                #8
                Re: CPU vs CPU

                Originally posted by Ninjoid
                Be interested to see what you've got Dai....I've been using my sliders from last year and there's something not quite right, can't put my finger on it yet.

                But certainly be good to see what you've got...I think between us last year we had some pretty good ones.
                Hello Ninjoid. Yep last year we got it about right. I was still playing until about a month before this year's game came out, played about half a full season. I have too much time on my hands.

                It's an even better game for CPU vs CPU fans this year. The team specific broadcast cams add a lot, love the low down angle in Oakland and the straight behind the pitcher view in St Louis.

                Just to expand on the bullpen usage improvements, I just finished the opening four game series between KC and The The Angels Angels of Anaheim (LA swept the series). KC used every member of it's 'pen at least once in the series and nobody pitched in all four games. In game four, with the Royals getting blown out, they even trotted out the closer, Soria, in the 8th to give him a bit of work. Really nicely done and a huge improvement on last year.

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                • DaiYoung
                  Rookie
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 200

                  #9
                  Re: CPU vs CPU

                  Originally posted by td7
                  Sounds good, keep us updated with your progress. Have you noticed the computer swinging alot at the first pitch? It seems to happen quite often.
                  I haven't noticed that. I guess if you had the inclination you could record each at bat and work out if it was happening more than in real life. All I can tell you is that total pitch counts in games seem fine -- if the CPU was swinging at every first pitch the pitch counts would be very low I'd have thought.

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                  • Ninjoid
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 2101

                    #10
                    Re: CPU vs CPU

                    How are you doing Dai...I'm still twiddling with things (as always)...agree with you about the wind and stolen base attempts....I'm not happy at the moment with the variation in numbers of hits per game - so still experimenting there...

                    As for wild pitches, I think I'm seeing too many, even with pitcher consistency at 6...but don't really want to put it further up as I'm concious of it affecting the pitcher accuarcy even further, therefore compounding my hit issue - we'll see.

                    How's yours coming along?
                    Last edited by Ninjoid; 03-12-2011, 08:16 AM.
                    Dedicated member of the CPU v CPU worldwide brethren.

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                    • td7
                      Rookie
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 487

                      #11
                      Re: CPU vs CPU

                      I had some sliders last year that were unbelievable and I tried them on 11 and it just seems off......I can't figure out what it is. Is All star level diffrent this year?
                      You play fast! You play strong! You go out there and dominate the man you're playing against, and you make his *ss quit! That's our trademark! That's our M.O. as a team! That's what people know us as! - Nick Saban

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                      • Frythatchicken
                        Rookie
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 142

                        #12
                        Re: CPU vs CPU

                        what exactly is cpu vs. cpu...please explain

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                        • DaiYoung
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 200

                          #13
                          Re: CPU vs CPU

                          Originally posted by Ninjoid
                          How are you doing Dai...I'm still twiddling with things (as always)...agree with you about the wind and stolen base attempts....I'm not happy at the moment with the variation in numbers of hits per game - so still experimenting there...

                          As for wild pitches, I think I'm seeing too many, even with pitcher consistency at 6...but don't really want to put it further up as I'm concious of it affecting the pitcher accuarcy even further, therefore compounding my hit issue - we'll see.

                          How's yours coming along?
                          Finished my first 50 games yesterday, all at out-of-the box settings. Here's the stats:

                          All numbers are per team, per game. 2010 actual MLB numbers in brackets:

                          Runs 4.95 (4.38)
                          Hits 9.51 (8.76)

                          BB 3.05 (3.25)
                          K 6.80 (7.06)

                          2B 1.99 (1.75)
                          3B 0.26 (0.18)
                          HR 1.28 (0.95)

                          E 0.56 (0.62)
                          SB 0.45 (0.61)
                          CS 0.14 (0.23)

                          WP 0.56 (0.34)
                          HBP 0.09 (0.32)

                          Hitting numbers are too high. Extra base hits account for most of the inflated offense. SB attempts a bit low and there are too many WP as you say.

                          I've decided to lower CPU Power by 2 and CPU solid hits by 2, whilst raising SB Freq by 3. At the moment I'm leaving pitcher consistency unchanged for fear of reducing the walk totals. I'll give these sliders another 50 games and see what happens.

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                          • nomo17k
                            Permanently Banned
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 5735

                            #14
                            Re: CPU vs CPU

                            Originally posted by iwrite7
                            what exactly is cpu vs. cpu...please explain
                            You just let CPU play against another CPU in gameplay.
                            The Show CPU vs. CPU game stats: 2018,17,16,15,14,13,12,11

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                            • Heroesandvillains
                              MVP
                              • May 2009
                              • 5974

                              #15
                              Re: CPU vs CPU

                              Nomo and I began discussing walks in a different forum, one relating to analog pitching.

                              Anyway, I'm intrigued with what you guys are doing in here, and figure, even for user vs CPU games, this info can be golden.

                              I agree with Nomo that strike percentages are good, but walks are still too low. This is a much different beast than last year.

                              What are you opinions on dropping CPU consistency a click, in order to combat this? Consistency is a very minimally invasive slider (in comparison, control and strike frequency will broadly effect multiple stats.)

                              I figure, worst case, dropping consistency could increase HBP and wild pitches/passed balls. Realistically, I find it more likely, that dropping it one...or maybe two clicks, will increase balls in hitters counts, thus resulting in a rise in overall BB?

                              What do you guys think?

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