TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

[TNKNGM]

Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

great set of sliders, tnk i used ur 1st set of sliders ,i havnt got all stats n scorebox but really happy with amount of hrs doubles and era,i do seem to strike out alot im leading the league and have 3 players in top 5 wiv my nats franchise werth,zimmerman and la roche .could u suggest what slider i cud tweak
thanks

I suggest PATIENCE......whenever I strike out a ton, it's usually because I am not being patient enough and I am swinging at bad pitches.

I guess you could drop pitch speed down 1 notch to help with pitch recognition and then bring it back up a notch when you get better.

[JayD]

Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

Psycho, if i remember correctly you use auto fielding and I see that TNK uses Assist. Could this pose a problem at all?

[TNKNGM]

Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

Psycho, if i remember correctly you use auto fielding and I see that TNK uses Assist. Could this pose a problem at all?

It shouldn't - I have been playing around with auto and assist and I don't see too much of a difference either way.

[TNKNGM]

Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

I'm doing some testing - hopefully we will have something for you guys real soon

[rickymets1975]

Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

Thanks for doing this you guys. It makes for a way better sim having good sliders.

[PsychoBulk]

Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

No Jay i use assist fielding.

Myself and TNK are making some headway with our discussions, more to come soon.

[BaseballCtchr]

Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

<table class="osdyn" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="575"><tbody><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="13" align="center">DET at SEA - SAFECO Field</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="40%">Mar 18, 2011</td><td align="right" width="5%">1</td><td align="right" width="5%">2</td><td align="right" width="5%">3</td><td align="right" width="5%">4</td><td align="right" width="5%">5</td><td align="right" width="5%">6</td><td align="right" width="5%">7</td><td align="right" width="5%">8</td><td align="right" width="5%">9</td><td align="right" width="5%">R</td><td align="right" width="5%">H</td><td align="right" width="5%">E</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Detroit Tigers (Me)</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td class="active" align="right">2</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Seattle Mariners (CPU)</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td class="active" align="right">1</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td colspan="13" align="center">W: Scherzer L: S: Valverde</td></tr></tbody></table><table class="osdyn spacer" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="575"><tbody><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="5">Scoring Summary</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="3" width="84%">SCORING DETAILS</td><td align="right" width="8%">DET</td><td align="right" width="8%">SEA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="7%"></td><td align="center" width="7%">4</td><td width="70%">Rhymes homered to right.</td><td align="right" width="8%">1</td><td align="right" width="8%">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="7%"></td><td align="center" width="7%">4</td><td width="70%">Cabrera homered to left.</td><td align="right" width="8%">2</td><td align="right" width="8%">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center" width="7%"></td><td align="center" width="7%">9</td><td width="70%">Smoak hit a sacrifice fly to Raburn. Figgins scores</td><td align="right" width="8%">2</td><td align="right" width="8%">1</td></tr></tbody></table><table class="osdyn spacer" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="575"><tbody><tr class="masthead_alt"><td colspan="9" bgcolor="#001641">Detroit Tigers</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="41%">HITTERS</td><td align="right" width="7%">AB</td><td align="right" width="7%">R</td><td align="right" width="7%">H</td><td align="right" width="7%">RBI</td><td align="right" width="7%">BB</td><td align="right" width="7%">SO</td><td align="right" width="7%">HR</td><td align="right" width="10%">AVG</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td colspan="9">BATTING:
HR: Cabrera, Rhymes
RBI: Cabrera, Rhymes</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td colspan="9">BASERUNNING:
SB: Jackson
CS: Jackson</td></tr></tbody></table><table class="osdyn spacer" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="575"><tbody><tr class="masthead_alt"><td colspan="9" bgcolor="#001c43">Seattle Mariners</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="41%">HITTERS</td><td align="right" width="7%">AB</td><td align="right" width="7%">R</td><td align="right" width="7%">H</td><td align="right" width="7%">RBI</td><td align="right" width="7%">BB</td><td align="right" width="7%">SO</td><td align="right" width="7%">HR</td><td align="right" width="10%">AVG</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td colspan="9">BATTING:
2B: Wilson
RBI: Smoak</td></tr></tbody></table><table class="osdyn spacer" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="575"><tbody><tr class="masthead_alt"><td colspan="9" bgcolor="#001641">Detroit Tigers</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="41%">PITCHERS</td><td align="right" width="7%">IP</td><td align="right" width="7%">H</td><td align="right" width="7%">R</td><td align="right" width="7%">ER</td><td align="right" width="7%">BB</td><td align="right" width="7%">SO</td><td align="right" width="7%">HR</td><td align="right" width="10%">ERA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Scherzer</td><td align="right">6.0</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">
</td><td class="active" align="right">0.00</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Schlereth</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">
</td><td class="active" align="right">0.00</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Zumaya</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">
</td><td class="active" align="right">0.00</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Valverde</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">
</td><td class="active" align="right">9.00</td></tr></tbody></table><table class="osdyn spacer" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="575"><tbody><tr class="masthead_alt"><td colspan="9" bgcolor="#001c43">Seattle Mariners</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="41%">PITCHERS</td><td align="right" width="7%">IP</td><td align="right" width="7%">H</td><td align="right" width="7%">R</td><td align="right" width="7%">ER</td><td align="right" width="7%">BB</td><td align="right" width="7%">SO</td><td align="right" width="7%">HR</td><td align="right" width="10%">ERA</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Vargas</td><td align="right">6.0</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">
</td><td class="active" align="right">3.00</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Aardsma</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">
</td><td class="active" align="right">0.00</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Delcarmen</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">
</td><td class="active" align="right">0.00</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Olson</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">
</td><td class="active" align="right">0.00</td></tr></tbody></table>

I missed a lot of opportunities in this game. Could have easily been a 3 run game. I used exactly what you guys used except now I am using timing hitting.

[TNKNGM]

Re: TNK &amp; PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

Stay tuned - we will be releasing something soon

[JayD]

Re: TNK &amp; PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

TNK, Psycho, Have you guys been seeing way to many foul balls from the computer. I swear every time I get 2 strikes on a guy he seems to foul tip everything. Just curious if you guys are considering lowering cpu foul frequency.

[Phillies2010]

Re: TNK &amp; PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

Stay tuned - we will be releasing something soon

Used both of your sliders last year!

Can't wait to see what you guys come out with

[TNKNGM]

Re: TNK &amp; PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

TNK, Psycho, Have you guys been seeing way to many foul balls from the computer. I swear every time I get 2 strikes on a guy he seems to foul tip everything. Just curious if you guys are considering lowering cpu foul frequency.

But will reducing CPU Foul result in more swing and miss? or will it result in those balls being put in play?

[PsychoBulk]

Re: TNK &amp; PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

Truthfully Jay i cant say i have seen that, i have no problem striking guys out before it turns into marathon at bats in the right circumstances i.e. ive set them up for it, of course sometimes you get 9/10 pitch at bats but thats fine, they should be in there.

[Mike Lowe]

Re: TNK &amp; PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

Trying these now as I liked PB's last year...

With timing and analog hitting, are the hitter's talents taken into account? It seems certain hitters are WAY off...but then again, it seems at times that all hitters are way off.

I guess, if the game takes into account the player ratings in the timing/analog systems, it might make for a more realistic experience when hitting with Nyjer Morgan, versus Albert Pujols. Otherwise, those players have the same "eye" as one another.

[mlblover15]

Re: TNK &amp; PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

I've played 5 exhibition games and 6 season games using your sliders as a base.

All in all a great base to start with. Extra base hits, taking the extra base, and scoring from second or on a sac-fly are all working realistically. This usually takes a bit of tweaking by me to get it where I like. Congrats on getting it right the first time.

I'll be looking forward to seeing what you and PsychoBulk come up with. However with this base I may already be set for the year by the time you do. Thanks for posting them.

Sliders....

Power down to 3 for both cpu and human. Way too many homers for both sides at 6 and 5 .

Not seeing enough foul balls...

I get why people don't like foul balls. They can become frustrating and make games much longer. However, foul balls are important as they inflate pitch counts (tiring the P by making him throw more pitches) and give batters another chance at putting a ball in play. 5 setting for me was barely getting close to realistic counts. IIRC for 08 we had a discussion here that established ~50 per game total was a realistic amount. My settings of 8-human and 6-cpu are what I used in version 10 to get good numbers. As of now only played one game with this setting so this number only being tested and will be tweaked.

um i don't know about you but.. ive never seen a runner tag up on a fly ball and score from second on a sacrifice fly. unless of course there was an error on the throw to third base or whatever.

[lVlAtlZiX]

Re: TNK &amp; PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

He said seeing scores from a runner on second OR a sac fly. He means if u have a fast guy like Pierre he can get to home on a nice liner from 2nd.