TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

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  • abstraktum
    Rookie
    • Sep 2007
    • 21

    #361
    Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

    Originally posted by TNKNGM
    Sliders aren't going to fix this - you need to become a better hitter

    All Star Difficulty
    Zone Hitting using "X" 99% of the time
    SWING AT YOUR PITCH - DON'T CHASE

    I´m back on your sliders...All star difficulty

    I try timing again...the swing at the pitch is my problem, because i don´t move the left stick most time, only for double play pitches i put it a little bit down and for 2-0 or 3-1 pitches up in the zone, i can´t swing with the left stick.I don´t use pci at all, i don´t like it i wanna see the pitcher.
    The X-Buttom i use untill i get back 0-2 or 1-2 than i take the O-Buttom. The power buttom i use mostly one or two times in game.

    I really had to get a better hitter, i´m trying a lot in practice at the moment. One of the reasons i change a lot is because i get angry when i´m striked out in first 2 innings 4 or 5 times...i´m not relaxed while playing......i may should smoke one and try it again
    Last edited by abstraktum; 04-02-2011, 08:20 AM.

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    • TNKNGM
      All Star
      • Mar 2005
      • 6784

      #362
      Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

      Originally posted by abstraktum
      I´m back on your sliders...All star difficulty

      I try timing again...the swing at the pitch is my problem, because i don´t move the left stick most time, only for double play pitches i put it a little bit down and for 2-0 or 3-1 pitches up in the zone, i can´t swing with the left stick.I don´t use pci at all, i don´t like it i wanna see the pitcher.
      The X-Buttom i use untill i get back 0-2 or 1-2 than i take the O-Buttom. The power buttom i use mostly one or two times in game.

      I really had to get a better hitter, i´m trying a lot in practice at the moment. One of the reasons i change a lot is because i get angry when i´m striked out in first 2 innings 4 or 5 times...i´m not relaxed while playing......i may should smoke one and try it again
      Just use ZONE

      What is so hard about if the pitch is low and outside.....you hit X and push the left stick low and outside?

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      • lVlAtlZiX
        Rookie
        • Aug 2004
        • 310

        #363
        Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

        I switched to Analog and have had a lot more fun playing and also have been hitting better. The problem with timing is even when ur perfect rarely is the PCI spot on so u get a lot more choppers and pop-ups. I suggest maybe raising solid hits to 3-4 and see if it gets better.

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        • TNKNGM
          All Star
          • Mar 2005
          • 6784

          #364
          Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

          Originally posted by lVlAtlZiX
          I switched to Analog and have had a lot more fun playing and also have been hitting better. The problem with timing is even when ur perfect rarely is the PCI spot on so u get a lot more choppers and pop-ups. I suggest maybe raising solid hits to 3-4 and see if it gets better.
          Not gonna happen on the master set - these aren't designed for Analog

          Try raising it though and let us knwo how it goes for you

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          • northface28
            Pro
            • Jul 2009
            • 762

            #365
            Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

            Originally posted by lVlAtlZiX
            I switched to Analog and have had a lot more fun playing and also have been hitting better. The problem with timing is even when ur perfect rarely is the PCI spot on so u get a lot more choppers and pop-ups. I suggest maybe raising solid hits to 3-4 and see if it gets better.
            Timing, as I understand it, is more ratings based. I like that fact, thus I stick with timing.

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            • Heroesandvillains
              MVP
              • May 2009
              • 5974

              #366
              Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

              I know these aren't my sliders, but I do hit on Timing with practically default sliders (like these).

              The keys to this essentially 'new' mode, are such:

              1. More so than ever, pitch recognition is key, as your "timing" is of the utmost importance.

              2. Take a look at your hot zones, and eye pitches there in hitter's counts. Not always though and here's why and how to adjust...pitcher's in this year's game (in my opinion, more so than last year) pitch to patterns and repetitive locations. Use the select button, and check where the CPU pitcher is approaching righties early. Or lefties when ahead. They'll very often stick with these unless you give them a reason not to. Also, on higher difficulties, these patterns won't last long. Sometimes, an educated guess of "on this pitch, the CPU is going to CHANGE their pattern, and I'm looking for something new," is the right thing to do. But in a key spot, don't necessarily go "all-in" on a hunch. Utilize the history!

              3. Contact swing is crucial when behind. Not always with sluggers, but even sluggers can extend at bats this way when a CPU pitcher has a high confidence.

              4. Once a pitcher gets into 'high confidence' mode, Timing hitting punishes you BIG TIME. You can have a "Superb/Perfect," but watch the PCI end up 3 feet too high. This is where the ratings game is the most frustrating. But it works both ways when confidence is low. Your best bet is to either (a.) extend at bats in hopes of an early pitching change, (b.) Try to work a walk to break the confidence, or (c.) pick up hard on their patterns and wait for your pitch.

              Timing only on HOF is the hardest hitting I've ever done in this series. Last year I hit on Legend and used the PCI (for the most part). But the good thing is, is that where I hit last year shouldn't intimidate you. The playing field is leveled, because we can all just press a button, right. No thumb needed.

              There's no reason that 'zone' has to be the way with ANY slider set. Timing is a different beast, but it's not the easy way out by any means. No one should have to second guess which hitting mechanic they choose. But... TNK worked hard on these and he uses Zone. That's how he tested them. Psychobulk uses Timing on HOF. It no surprise that they'd recommend their tested hitting styles. Yet, it doesn't mean Timing on AS or Zone on HOF won't work for you, for example.

              Anyway, I hope this helps. Timing is awesome, and the only way I'll play this year's game. It's just my take on it though.
              Last edited by Heroesandvillains; 04-02-2011, 08:48 PM.

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              • Bobhead
                Pro
                • Mar 2011
                • 4926

                #367
                Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

                I am a strong supporter of the theory that the developers foresaw things like this, and they made the effort to ensure that all 3 hitting styles played just about equally. Because I switch from zone to analog sometimes, out of boredom, and I never have to make a single adjustment to my sliders.

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                • TNKNGM
                  All Star
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 6784

                  #368
                  Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

                  Guys,
                  I've been going crazy blasting through Knights Full Minors Rosters doing equipment updates, stances and deliveries, lineup/rotation tweaks, etc. and I'm going to start my Red Sox franchise tonight. I went through and put Strasburg in the Nats rotation, Wainright in the Cardinals rotation, along with other moves for guys Knight had moved to the Single A teams due to injury. I want to put the MLB players that are hurt back on their teams and let the game decide if they get injured. Plus, I don't want to play a season where players like Wainright, Strasburg, Bay, Santana, etc. aren't factors.

                  I will be posting boxscores for pretty much all my games in this thread and will post periodic updates on stats / league leaders / standings and such throughout the season as well so people can follow along and see what kind of results the sliders are producing for my franchise.

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                  • highheatkingsb
                    All Star
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 8152

                    #369
                    Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

                    Originally posted by TNKNGM
                    Guys,
                    I've been going crazy blasting through Knights Full Minors Rosters doing equipment updates, stances and deliveries, lineup/rotation tweaks, etc. and I'm going to start my Red Sox franchise tonight. I went through and put Strasburg in the Nats rotation, Wainright in the Cardinals rotation, along with other moves for guys Knight had moved to the Single A teams due to injury. I want to put the MLB players that are hurt back on their teams and let the game decide if they get injured. Plus, I don't want to play a season where players like Wainright, Strasburg, Bay, Santana, etc. aren't factors.

                    I will be posting boxscores for pretty much all my games in this thread and will post periodic updates on stats / league leaders / standings and such throughout the season as well so people can follow along and see what kind of results the sliders are producing for my franchise.
                    Hey man, once again great job. Will you be loading these up after your adjustments on Sports Connect or will they be adjusted when I download the original version?
                    Highheat's O's Franchise
                    http://www.operationsports.com/forum...l-attempt.html

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                    • TNKNGM
                      All Star
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 6784

                      #370
                      Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

                      Originally posted by highheatkingsb
                      Hey man, once again great job. Will you be loading these up after your adjustments on Sports Connect or will they be adjusted when I download the original version?
                      The only updates so far are Fielding Errors up 1 notch to 7, and Baserunner Steal Ability down 1 notch to 4

                      We will only put a new release on SportsConnect if there are major changes.

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                      • enyc718
                        MVP
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 1344

                        #371
                        Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

                        [quote=TNKNGM;2042275578]Guys,
                        I've been going crazy blasting through Knights Full Minors Rosters doing equipment updates, stances and deliveries, lineup/rotation tweaks, etc. and I'm going to start my Red Sox franchise tonight. I went through and put Strasburg in the Nats rotation, Wainright in the Cardinals rotation, along with other moves for guys Knight had moved to the Single A teams due to injury. I want to put the MLB players that are hurt back on their teams and let the game decide if they get injured. Plus, I don't want to play a season where players like Wainright, Strasburg, Bay, Santana, etc. aren't factors.


                        You stole my idea, or maybe great minds think alike. I did the same exact thing, but I mostly did it because I might forget to put them back on their teams at some point during the season, lol. By the way, love the sliders good job!
                        The Positive Sports Podcast~~~Tough Times Don't Last, Tough People Do~~~Ignore The Negativity, Be The Positivity

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                        • highheatkingsb
                          All Star
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 8152

                          #372
                          Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

                          Originally posted by TNKNGM
                          The only updates so far are Fielding Errors up 1 notch to 7, and Baserunner Steal Ability down 1 notch to 4

                          We will only put a new release on SportsConnect if there are major changes.
                          I apologize, I was meaning your adjustments to Knights rosters. I have the sliders downloaded and adjusted.
                          Highheat's O's Franchise
                          http://www.operationsports.com/forum...l-attempt.html

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                          • TNKNGM
                            All Star
                            • Mar 2005
                            • 6784

                            #373
                            Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

                            Originally posted by highheatkingsb
                            I apologize, I was meaning your adjustments to Knights rosters. I have the sliders downloaded and adjusted.
                            I'm not listing all those roster adjustments.......just go through and look at each teams single A roster - these guys will all be among the best players at single A.

                            Don't forget about doing the 30 team control and simming with injuries turned off to the last day of Spring Training and then moving the necessary guys down to AAA so that the CPU doesn't adjust lineups and rotations.

                            See Knights OS Full Minors Roster Thread (Post #1 / Option #2) for details.

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                            • nystyle
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 437

                              #374
                              Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

                              had this game last night

                              PHI 2 8 0
                              NYM 3 11 0

                              game went 14 innings. I won on a jason bay walk off single. few things O noticed that were cool were rollins led off the game with a triple and I was still able to escape the inning without him scoring the run. in years past usually for me any time a cpu guy was on 3rd, no outs, they basically had a run.

                              niese pitched well in to the 7th up 2-0 then gave up 2 solo shots in the 7th and was pulled. relievers for both teams were excellent.

                              I struck out a lot at 15 times. they struck out 13.

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                              • BoNity
                                Rookie
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 333

                                #375
                                Re: TNK & PsychoBulk ***The Perfect Slider Set 2011 Edition***

                                PLEASE HELP.

                                I am using these sliders, but I cant hit at all.

                                the thing is I don't really know why. my timing is excellent according to the pitch track thing, but they're always soft grounders and pop ups.

                                I'm 0-9 in my franchise....I get 2-5 hits per game. I have 2 doubles and 1 home run all year
                                (I have played a lot more games overall though)

                                I don't know if the M's are just that crappy (In real life they are, I know)
                                or if I'm doing something wrong?

                                I have been playing this game for years, and never really had this problem.
                                any advise?

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