Bobhead's Sliders

[Bobhead]

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Oh yeah, I totally forgot about the roster vault. I had it up there before the PSN outage but hadn't uploaded it since. It's up now, my PSN is "IanFuego"

[Geronimo22]

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Bobhead, this questioin isn't realted to your sliders, but I was curious when you said in another post

you can "influence the direction of a hit by holding R2 and using the right analog stick"

Can you explain this? I use analog hitting right now.

[jr86]

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Bobhead, this questioin isn't realted to your sliders, but I was curious when you said in another post

you can "influence the direction of a hit by holding R2 and using the right analog stick"

Can you explain this? I use analog hitting right now.

Not sure if this works with analog hitting but with classic.
R2+RS Up influences a fly ball
R2+RS Down influences a ground ball
R2+RS Left and Right influences a hit to that side

Bob, really liking the way these sliders are looking i am going to give them a good run.

[Bobhead]

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Made a minor change to the sliders, upped Foul Frequency 1 point to reduce pop ups a bit more.

Anyway main reason for posting was show my franchise stats. Like I said I recently started my franchise over, now that I have a more-or-less final set of sliders; because in my old franchise, I went like the first month batting under .200, and it made it to confusing to follow how my hitting improved, since there was no way to break stats down by periods of time.

Anyway, 8 games into the season for my Tampa Bay Franchise, and I am 3-5.

Pitching Stats:
Innings Pitched: 76 (8 Games)
Batters Faced: 308
ERA: 2.72
Walks: 17 -- 2.125 per game
Strikeouts: 50 -- 6.25 per game
Hits: 69 -- 8.625 per game
HRs: 5 -- 0.625 per game

Batting Stats:
At-Bats: 285
Batting Average: .267
Hits: 76 -- 9.5 per game
Extra-Base Hits: 18 -- 2.25 per game
Home Runs: 10 -- 1.25 per game
Walks: 15 -- 1.875 per game
Strikeouts: 60 -- 7.5 per game
Batting Average w/ RiSP: .315

I already know Home Runs and Strikeouts will level off pretty quickly. 4 of those HRs were in my very first game, haven't hit much since. I've been seeing the ball pretty badly lately, so I know strikeouts will take a hit too once I stop pressing so much, and XBH's will climb back up, since most of my hits lately have been fluke singles and ground balls in holes. This has nothing to do with the sliders though, I'm just pressing too much. I was hitting very well before I restarted my franchise, so I know these things will level out.

I'll post the same stats again after about 20 games.

[Bobhead]

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Here are my stats playing with the yankees after the first 10 games of my Franchise.

The only differences to your current sliders are
1) I've still got HUM contact at 3;
2) HUM and CPU fouls still at 2;
3) HUM Pitcher control and frequency at 4.

hitting's at all-star, pitching's at HOF.

Record: 3-7 (ughhh! just lost a series to the sox 3-0!)

Pitching Stats:
Innings Pitched: 89 (10 Games)
Batters Faced: 377
ERA: 4.25 (League rank: 22nd)
Walks: 21 -- 2.1 per game (League rank: 1st)
Strikeouts: 53 -- 5.3 per game (League rank: 29th)
Hits: 98 -- 9.8 per game (League rank: 20th)
HRs: 22 -- 2.2 per game (League rank 29th)
Runs Allowed 49 -- 4.9 per game (League rank: 23rd)


Batting Stats:
At-Bats: 333
Batting Average: .240 (League rank: 20th)
Hits: 80 -- 8.0 per game (League rank: 27th)
Extra-Base Hits (all doubles): 23 -- 2.3 per game (League rank in Doubles: 5th)
Home Runs: 19 -- 1.9 per game (League rank: 1st)
Walks: 39 -- 3.9 per game (League rank: 11th)
Strikeouts: 93 -- 9.3 per game (League rank 27th)
Batting Average w/ RiSP: .145
Runs Scored 48 -- 4.8 per game (League rank 13th)

Fielding (an important stat with these sliders, I think):
Errors: 6 -- 0.6 per game (league rank: 13th)
fielding pct.: .984 (league rank: 16th)

As you can probably see, my biggest problems right now are 1) hitting with runners in scoring position, and 2) pitching, pitching, pitching!!! I'm just leaving too many pitches in the zone in key situations.

I feel pretty good about some of the other offensive numbers. team BA might seem a bit low, but the real yankees are hitting .254 right now so I'm not that far off (also, the real yanks are scoring 5,2 runs/game, so my run average/game is a little low but also not too far off). HR's and Walks are pretty close to where the real yankee averages are this season. I just gotta learn not to be too aggressive when I've got runners on base (just like the real yankees these days...they've been terrible with RISP!)

Pitching's way off their real-life numbers. I gotta be willing to walk more batters, but that's always been a problem of mine.

fielding average seem to be right where they should be.

all and all, I'm really enjoying the sliders. I think the variety of hits is good, and the baserunning and fielding all seem right. I think my hitting with risp will come around, I just gotta learn how to pitch on HOF!

I've been having problems with RISP also, but I don't know what that's about because I didn't have that problem before I restarted, but my team might have just been hot at that point (it was like a 30 game stretch though, where I was scoring very consistently). I'll keep it in mind a little more since its not just me, but the only thing I can think of is cutting down CPU Pitch Control a bit, if things don't pan out.

Also I just made those changes myself, so you haven't missed much. None of them were needed that badly. The stats I posted also reflect Fouls at 2, and I had Contact at 3 for a couple of games also.

[Bobhead]

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Minor changes, but I'm half asleep right now so no explanation til tomorrow >_>

[Bobhead]

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Sorry lol... I've been dealing with the Flu and my mind has sort of been all over the place the past two weeks.

I just felt the change produced better at-bat sequences. I was getting the right number of balls, and drawing the right number of walks, but it seemed like the CPU's 1st pitch-strike percentage was excessively low. I raised Strike Frequency, lowering Pitch Control 1 point to preserve the same pitch variation, while making the CPU pitcher a little more aggressive.

[HechticSooner]

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Hey Bobhead with these changes have you thrown any knuckleball pitchers? I'm a Mets user and thus have R.A. Dickey and normally he can be a little all over the place like some knukers but since this last changes he can't find the zone with the knuckleball at all. Is it possible that a change makes the pitch flutter too much? Have you experienced this at all? Let me know.

[Bobhead]

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Are you sure it's the changes in sliders, and not the recent patch? The Knuckleball was changed in that patch, and I believe it was made less accurate. If you aren't having any problems with other pitches/pitchers, I'd imagine it isn't the Sliders that are troubling you.

[jr86]

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Here’s my latest update after 20 games playing with the Yankees.

The only differences to your current sliders are
1) I've now moved HUM contact from 4 to 5 (changed it after 18 games);
2) HUM Pitcher control and consistency at 4;<O</O
3) I’ve kept CPU foul frequency at 2.

hitting's at all-star, pitching's at HOF.

Record: 6-14

Pitching Stats (franchise after 20 games vs. current real life):
Innings Pitched: 179 (20 Games)
Batters Faced: 742
ERA: 3.66 -- real life 3.52
Walks: 42 -- 2.1 per game -- real life 3.3
Strikeouts: 107 -- 5.35 per game – real life 7,06
Hits: 174 – 8.7 per game -- League rank: 8<SUP>th</SUP> – real life 8.54
HRs: 30 – 1.5 per game – real life 0.81<O</O
Runs Allowed 84 – 4,2 per game -- real life 3.96


Batting Stats:
At-Bats: 644
Batting Average: .210 -- real life .253
Hits: 135 – 6.67 per game -- real life 8.57<O</O
Doubles: 29 – 1,45 per game -- real life 1.44<O</O
Triples: 1
Home Runs: 32 -- 1.6 per game -- real life 1.54
Walks: 74 -- 3.7 per game -- real life 3.94
Strikeouts: 156 – 7.8 per game -- real life 6.81
Batting Average w/ RiSP: .160<O</O
Runs Scored 78 – 3.9 per game -- real life 5.24

Fielding:
Errors: 14 -- 0.7 per game -- real life 0.65
fielding pct.: .981 -- real life .983<O</O
<O</O

My pitching’s improved a lot and seems to be getting to about where it should be, but my hitting’s gone south. And although my averages for walks and extra base hits average are pretty realistic, my batting average – especially with risp – is pathetic. And I've lost a lot of games by one or two runs.
That’s why I’ve moved HUM contact the last couple of games up to 5.<O</O
Any thoughts/suggestions, bobhead (or anyone else)?<O</O

I was in the 6-7 hits per game camp also.What i have done instead of increasing hitting sliders is lower the computer fielder reaction slider by 1 back to default. For me it has increased the hits to the 8,9,10 mark per game without leading to more HR's or Doubles, it just lets the ball get through the infield for the extra few hits without the infielders gobbling everything up when it was at 6.

Bob, excellent sliders i am not sure why i strayed away from them originally but have had some cracking games thru the last 10 or so.
Only changes i have made are the one above and pitch speed to 4....i just can't live with it at default never mind at 6!!

[rondoman]

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Bobhead just started a new franchise and I am rolling with these.

I use meter pitching though and All Star difficulty on hitting and pitching.

Ill let you know what turns out.

Thanks.

[HechticSooner]

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yeah I am aware of the patch and the knuke and I didn't have problems with it at all before I made the latest changes in the sliders that was why I specifically asked what you think might be involved there.

EDIT: I solved it by increasing pitcher control by one notch just for the knuker

[Bobhead]

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Here’s my latest update after 20 games playing with the Yankees.

The only differences to your current sliders are
1) I've now moved HUM contact from 4 to 5 (changed it after 18 games);
2) HUM Pitcher control and consistency at 4;<o</o
3) I’ve kept CPU foul frequency at 2.

hitting's at all-star, pitching's at HOF.

Record: 6-14

[etc etc...]

My pitching’s improved a lot and seems to be getting to about where it should be, but my hitting’s gone south. And although my averages for walks and extra base hits average are pretty realistic, my batting average – especially with risp – is pathetic. And I've lost a lot of games by one or two runs.
That’s why I’ve moved HUM contact the last couple of games up to 5.<o</o
Any thoughts/suggestions, bobhead (or anyone else)?<o</o

Your stats look good, and pretty close to mine. I'm hitting a little better, and pitching a little worse, but I'm still ahead of the pack in ERA (I'm using the Rays though, so I'd think that's to be expected).

However like you, I was also struggling with RISP. I've been playing around with CPU Consistency at 1, and I've been doing a lot better lately, but I honestly think it is a coincidence. I also have 3 or 4 players "hot" right now - the first time all season my lineup hasn't been full of snowflakes. Now that my team has somewhat caught fire, I'm going to keep playing a few games with Consistency where it is (at 2), and see how things pan out.

My advice to you would just be to try to maintain good at bats. Momentum/Confidence is an extremely powerful factor - for all players, not just pitchers - I could be wrong, but I really think struggling with RISP has as much to do with being "cold" as it does with any slider.

I was in the 6-7 hits per game camp also.What i have done instead of increasing hitting sliders is lower the computer fielder reaction slider by 1 back to default. For me it has increased the hits to the 8,9,10 mark per game without leading to more HR's or Doubles, it just lets the ball get through the infield for the extra few hits without the infielders gobbling everything up when it was at 6.

Bob, excellent sliders i am not sure why i strayed away from them originally but have had some cracking games thru the last 10 or so.
Only changes i have made are the one above and pitch speed to 4....i just can't live with it at default never mind at 6!!

Thanks for the compliment, and funny because I've played about my last seven games with Reaction decreased as well (I actually played with it at 4, but I like how default feels so far). I had raised it because of the huge cut to fielder speed, but I felt outfielders were getting too good of a jump on balls. They were breaking too quickly after contact, so I brought it back down.

Also I've been playing with Pitch Speed at 5 lately also. 6 was just too exhausting for a 162 game season.

ok, I might try that method, although many seem to be worried about dropping reaction with fielder run speed and arm strength reduced...
oh, and I forgot to say that I've also got pitch speed at 4!

Yeah almost everyone else has reaction at 6 or 7, and their logic seemed sound so I didn't really second guess it since its not a very important slider, but I really do prefer default.

[Bobhead]

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Made a change to Timing again (sorry). I felt both sides weren't getting beat by enough pitches, particularly the CPU, who a handful of times completely misread a pitch in both location and timing, and still fouled it off.

The Timing change on the Human side was simply to keep it even, and because I lowered Pitch Speed back to 5.

Reaction was cut back to default because outfielders were breaking too early.

[jr86]

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Bob, this is not a knock on your sliders but just an observation and will post it here as i am using yours.
Is anyone getting the a decent amount of runs scored every game in general?
What i mean is while i can get a lot of the batting stats to match up with real life numbers (hits,doubles,hr's) over a number of games the runs just are not there. Thru the 10 game stretch i just did i hit 35runs so a good bit down on where it should be.
Now maybe this is on me not driving in the runners when i have them in scoring position....?
So then i tried raising solid hits to 4 and contact to 5 and bang 18 runs in 3 games but then it led to 29hits/8 doubles/5hr's for the series and a .289 average.
Like i said it is not just this particular slider set but it happens pretty much in every set i have tried where if i use them as they are laid out, stats are good but not runs and then when i raise the hitting sliders, runs are good but the other stats get skewed.
Thoughts/Ideas?