O.S.F.M. 2015 Recruiting(joint ops with Hybrid Set)

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Sorry the person responsible for my previous post has been sacked

It has come to my attention that those responsible for sacking the person responsible for the original post have now themselves been sacked.

[Willard76]

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And now for something completely different..............back to the thread

[authentic]

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I am able to do some teams this year. Give me the NL Central, only team I really care about is the Cubs but I can help out with any other team if needed. I'm going to spring training to see the Cubs in action so I'll have batting stances/motions and pitch types for created players.

[rovert22044]

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Not sure if people assigned to teams will update the contracts as they go, but if not, I'm willing to go through all of the teams and update the contracts for every player.

Accurate contracts is a HUGE thing for me. Lol

[Willard76]

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Not sure if people assigned to teams will update the contracts as they go, but if not, I'm willing to go through all of the teams and update the contracts for every player.

Accurate contracts is a HUGE thing for me. Lol

The only thing is we will have to see how they affect everything in the franchise. I agree 100% with accuracy if it works

[mmorg]

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I did the Indians last year, I can do them again. I'll get cracking on their roster on 14 in the next few weeks so I have it all ready to go for 15.

[Willard76]

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I did the Indians last year, I can do them again. I'll get cracking on their roster on 14 in the next few weeks so I have it all ready to go for 15.

I was hoping you would volunteer again this year, any chance you can help again with the Hybrid as well?

[og236]

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Not sure if people assigned to teams will update the contracts as they go, but if not, I'm willing to go through all of the teams and update the contracts for every player.

Accurate contracts is a HUGE thing for me. Lol

I'm willing to help with contracts as well, something I've wanted in the game for a long time lol


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[rovert22044]

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The only thing is we will have to see how they affect everything in the franchise. I agree 100% with accuracy if it works

This is true. One can only hope it works, or it becomes a pointless, teasing feature.


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[CWSpalehoseCWS]

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Not sure if people assigned to teams will update the contracts as they go, but if not, I'm willing to go through all of the teams and update the contracts for every player.

Accurate contracts is a HUGE thing for me. Lol

I've already got the White Sox done.

Maybe we should create a spreadsheet in Google docs?

[WaitTilNextYear]

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I've already got the White Sox done.

Maybe we should create a spreadsheet in Google docs?

Good idea. I volunteered to do contracts several pages back, but people are not reading the thread and keep popping in to volunteer to do the same thing (which is fine by me! lol. I have enough other stuff to do).

We just need to keep in mind that the contract editor appeared good only for total contract length and amount. It does not appear that we can edit the individual years of each contract, so the yearly salaries will be off for escalating and de-escalating deals, although the total amount will be accurate. Good enough for now.

For those guys volunteering to do contracts, be careful about only including remaining years of multi-year deals. If a guy signed a 5 year $72MM contract in 2012, we don't care about 2012, 2013, and 2014 at this point.

[CWSpalehoseCWS]

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Good idea. I volunteered to do contracts several pages back, but people are not reading the thread and keep popping in to volunteer to do the same thing (which is fine by me! lol. I have enough other stuff to do).

We just need to keep in mind that the contract editor appeared good only for total contract length and amount. It does not appear that we can edit the individual years of each contract, so the AAVs will be off for escalating and de-escalating deals, although the total amount will be accurate. Good enough for now.

For those guys volunteering to do contracts, be careful about only including remaining years of multi-year deals. If a guy signed a 5 year $72MM contract in 2012, we don't care about 2012, 2013, and 2014 at this point.

The question is, do we take the average of what's remaining of the contract or the average of the entire deal?

I'll use Jose Abreu as an example. He signed a 6 year, $68M contract before the 2014 season. The average yearly amount remaining for the rest of his contract is $11.87M. But if you take his entire contract total and divide that by 6, you end up with $11.34M. So we could edit him to have either 5 years, $11.34M or 5 years, $11.87M.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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The question is, do we take the average of what's remaining of the contract or the average of the entire deal?

I'll use Jose Abreu as an example. He signed a 6 year, $68M contract before the 2014 season. The average yearly amount remaining for the rest of his contract is $11.87M. But if you take his entire contract total and divide that by 6, you end up with $11.34M. So we could edit him to have either 5 years, $11.34M or 5 years, $11.87M.

I'd suggest using the itemized breakdown by year and aggregating that. Take a look at Abreu's deal at BRef broken down by season:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...html#contracts

The easiest way to find these contract breakdowns is to click on the contract "details" link near the top of the player's BRef page.

Easiest thing to do here is to recognize that the 2014 year at $7MM is past history and subtract 1 year and $7MM off the top.

Another way to do the same thing is looking at the same salary table, the BRef page for Abreu says "Does not include future salaries ($59.3M)"--that amount in parentheses is what's left on the deal. No subtraction required.

So for Abreu you'd just plug in 5 years and $59.3MM. We can't enter annual values, just totals.

The trickier issue for me is the vesting options. I'm not sure if we can edit them in or not, but it would involve judgment calls on what it likely to be achieved or not. As long as the people doing contracts are not oblivious to this issue, I can trust their judgment on whether Hamels is likely to pitch 400 IP over 2017+2018. Because...who really knows?

[CWSpalehoseCWS]

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I'd suggest using the itemized breakdown by year and aggregating that. Take a look at Abreu's deal at BRef broken down by season:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...html#contracts

The easiest way to find these contract breakdowns is to click on the contract "details" link near the top of the player's BRef page.

Easiest thing to do here is to recognize that the 2014 year at $7MM is past history and subtract 1 year and $7MM off the top.

Another way to do the same thing is looking at the same salary table, the BRef page for Abreu says "Does not include future salaries ($59.3M)"--that amount in parentheses is what's left on the deal. No subtraction required.

The trickier issue for me is the vesting options. I'm not sure if we can edit them in or not, but it would involve judgment calls on what it likely to be achieved or not. As long as the people doing contracts are not oblivious to this issue, I can trust their judgment on whether Hamels is likely to pitch 400 IP over 2017+2018. Because...who really knows?

I would not include vesting options, but that's just me. Kind of the same when it comes to club options and buyouts. It's just too hard to judge accurately.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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I would not include vesting options, but that's just me. Kind of the same when it comes to club options and buyouts. It's just too hard to judge accurately.

I'd be fine with that as a general proposition. Just so that it's done consistently.

As for keeping a spreadsheet of contracts, what makes the most sense to me is just adding a new column in the master spreadsheet that teeds and I have been working on. We could either add editing rights to certain people so they could input the values or we could ask people to send us the info and input it ourselves.