O.S.F.M. 2015 Recruiting(joint ops with Hybrid Set)

[cardinal511]

Re: O.S.F.M. 2015 Recruiting(joint ops with Hybrid Set)

Still looking for guys to setup the Nats, Rockies, Cards and I'm sure other guys may need a hand. PM myself and Ridin if any of this interests you

I'd love to do the Cardinals. PMing you both now.

[rovert22044]

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Alright, I'm going to post something that might get me flamed because it does have to do with ratings and I'm just curious as to how this works.

Starting off: *mumbles under voice* If someone is a better hitter than someone else, they should have higher ratings, right? *cringes at the possibility someone lashes out*

Lol Ok but seriously, here's my post:

I'm an Astros fan, so when I was scrolling through the spreadsheet with OVRs and stuff, I came across something that confused me. We traded for Luis Valbuena to possibly replace Matt Dominguez at 3B. Taking a look at their numbers from last year:

Luis Valbuena
- AVG: .249 (+ .034)
- HR: 16 (+/- 0)
- RBI: 51 (- 6)

Matt Dominguez
- AVG: .215 (- .034)
- HR: 16 (+/- 0)
- RBI: 57 (+ 6)

Based off these numbers, I'd say Luis Valbuena is a SLIGHTLY better hitter than MattyD. Not by far, but certainly is. When looking at this spreadsheet, Dominguez has him beat in every major hitting category:

Luis Valbuena
- Contact R: 50 (- 2)
- Contact L: 50 (- 3)
- Power R: 46 (- 5)
- Power L: 41 (- 9)

Matt Dominguez
- Contact R: 52 (+ 2)
- Contact L: 53 (+ 3)
- Power R: 51 (+ 5)
- Power L: 50 (+ 9)

REFERENCE: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?pli=1#gid=0
#502 and #503

I know y'all have said numerous times to not look at stats and how yearly stats aren't everything, but just out of curiosity, how exact does this work? I'm not attacking the system; just curious. UNLESS this spreadsheet was for last year's projections, then completely ignore everything I said in this post. Haha

[MrOldboy]

Re: O.S.F.M. 2015 Recruiting(joint ops with Hybrid Set)

SNIP

Projections go off more than simply last year's avg, HR and RBI totals. The Hybrid guys don't just go off of last years stats. I'm sure they will adjust accordingly as they see fit with the projections and such of players. They typically get things right in the end.

I agree right now Valbuena is a better offensive player, but only if you consider the last year of each. 2012-2013 were not fantastic years for Valbuena.

Unless the these are the final hybrid ratings than you have a point, but I think that they will update them as time goes on before release.

[sink4ever]

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I updated the Yankees OSFM thread but wanted to post here as well. We could really use help with equipment if anyone is interested, I'm just totally useless/uninterested in that aspect unfortunately. Also, I can probably copy over existing faces from '14, but help copying faces or creating new ones would also be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

[teeds]

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Projections go off more than simply last year's avg, HR and RBI totals. The Hybrid guys don't just go off of last years stats. I'm sure they will adjust accordingly as they see fit with the projections and such of players. They typically get things right in the end.

I agree right now Valbuena is a better offensive player, but only if you consider the last year of each. 2012-2013 were not fantastic years for Valbuena.

Unless the these are the final hybrid ratings than you have a point, but I think that they will update them as time goes on before release.

This is exactly it. We're still in the process of transferring over ratings from the roster and then we will go through the ratings and adjust accordingly. By no means are the ratings you see today the ratings you'll see come roster release time. The only updated ratings on the spreadsheet for Valbuena and Dominguez are speed and defense.

[og236]

Re: O.S.F.M. 2015 Recruiting(joint ops with Hybrid Set)

I updated the Yankees OSFM thread but wanted to post here as well. We could really use help with equipment if anyone is interested, I'm just totally useless/uninterested in that aspect unfortunately. Also, I can probably copy over existing faces from '14, but help copying faces or creating new ones would also be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

I'm definitely up for helping with equipment man


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[teeds]

Re: O.S.F.M. 2015 Recruiting(joint ops with Hybrid Set)

Probably need to compile a list of fake players with unique position combinations. Spray charts are re-rolled when you switch batter handedness so it's not too hard to find a decent combination of both.

Agreed. The more relevant info we can pack in the first page of a thread for people to reference the better. This is something we need to start doing because too much helpful info gets lost in these threads.

[Willard76]

Re: O.S.F.M. 2015 Recruiting(joint ops with Hybrid Set)

Alright, I'm going to post something that might get me flamed because it does have to do with ratings and I'm just curious as to how this works.

Starting off: *mumbles under voice* If someone is a better hitter than someone else, they should have higher ratings, right? *cringes at the possibility someone lashes out*

Lol Ok but seriously, here's my post:

I'm an Astros fan, so when I was scrolling through the spreadsheet with OVRs and stuff, I came across something that confused me. We traded for Luis Valbuena to possibly replace Matt Dominguez at 3B. Taking a look at their numbers from last year:

Luis Valbuena
- AVG: .249 (+ .034)
- HR: 16 (+/- 0)
- RBI: 51 (- 6)

Matt Dominguez
- AVG: .215 (- .034)
- HR: 16 (+/- 0)
- RBI: 57 (+ 6)

Based off these numbers, I'd say Luis Valbuena is a SLIGHTLY better hitter than MattyD. Not by far, but certainly is. When looking at this spreadsheet, Dominguez has him beat in every major hitting category:

Luis Valbuena
- Contact R: 50 (- 2)
- Contact L: 50 (- 3)
- Power R: 46 (- 5)
- Power L: 41 (- 9)

Matt Dominguez
- Contact R: 52 (+ 2)
- Contact L: 53 (+ 3)
- Power R: 51 (+ 5)
- Power L: 50 (+ 9)

REFERENCE: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?pli=1#gid=0
#502 and #503

I know y'all have said numerous times to not look at stats and how yearly stats aren't everything, but just out of curiosity, how exact does this work? I'm not attacking the system; just curious. UNLESS this spreadsheet was for last year's projections, then completely ignore everything I said in this post. Haha

What the others have said, plus these are raw numbers for 2/5 hitting categories. Discipline, Vision and Clutch also factor on stats.

[rovert22044]

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Projections go off more than simply last year's avg, HR and RBI totals. The Hybrid guys don't just go off of last years stats. I'm sure they will adjust accordingly as they see fit with the projections and such of players. They typically get things right in the end.

I agree right now Valbuena is a better offensive player, but only if you consider the last year of each. 2012-2013 were not fantastic years for Valbuena.

Unless the these are the final hybrid ratings than you have a point, but I think that they will update them as time goes on before release.

This is true. Good point.

What the others have said, plus these are raw numbers for 2/5 hitting categories. Discipline, Vision and Clutch also factor on stats.

This is also true.

Also, thank you for not attacking me. haha Was just interested in how the numbers were gotten.

[Willard76]

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Nobody gets attacked if they present good evidence and approach things in the correct manner.

The hard thing is when people make cases - and this only directed at many users over the years, no one specific - that have no evidence and most of what they are saying is based on one sim trial or opinion.

I can tell you that these rosters are built by people who play the game and want true results, are not ok with just what is released. We also test out as much as we can and reach out when we can for insight from developers. We are not perfect and as the developers try to put the point across through their broadcasts lately, either are they. We are all just trying to produce a realistic gaming experience.

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Unless the these are the final hybrid ratings than you have a point, but I think that they will update them as time goes on before release.

You must be clairvoyant because we are entering the ZiPS update phase of the Hybrid project for SCEA players. Teeds and I have nearly finished entering all batters and pitchers ratings/motions/stances from the MLB14 offseason Hybrid roster into the spreadsheet...just STL, TB, TOR, and WAS pitchers left to go--about 3-4 hours of work. It's been a real chore for the last few weeks playing spreadsheet hero, but teeds has been working on this like a man possessed.

This spreadsheet will be a really great resource for people working on both stock OSFM and Hybrid to look at and (agree or disagree) hopefully spark some productive convos and help standardize some of the minor issues (e.g. so stamina for MiLB pitchers on Team X isn't much higher than the other minor league teams etc..) that we've seen in the past.

[sink4ever]

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I'm definitely up for helping with equipment man


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That's great, thanks man. I'll reach out to you when the game drops to make sure we're all on the same page and have a good schedule for editing.

[DANIELSEGUIN]

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I'd like to help, but I'm not sure what to do. It would be my preference to work on the Blue Jays.

[Willard76]

Re: O.S.F.M. 2015 Recruiting(joint ops with Hybrid Set)

I'd like to help, but I'm not sure what to do. It would be my preference to work on the Blue Jays.

I have the Jays almost done minus getting them into the game, but if I can use help, I will definitely let you know. I will be in touch.

Willard

[Motown]

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Is it ok if I upload my rosters w/ all my CAPS in the vault? I'll give credit to all the peeps involved w/ these incredible edits. The reason is; I have some coworkers that would like to try them w/ all my CAPS included. I'll understand if you'd rather not. thanks