2015 OSFM HYBRID CREATION AND EXECUTION

[trackstar121388]

Re: 2015 BASE OSFM/HYBRID CREATION AND EXECUTION

Thank you!

Should I wait for the Hybrid? I'm new to TheShow. I don't mind waiting.


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It's a personal preference the hybrid is a complete re-rate and edits of the non created players (the players that are in the game to start). So if all you care about is getting accurate opening day rosters than the OSFM is great if you want the original in game players to be rated in the same rating system as the players that have been created then you should wait for hybrid roster.

[Omerta]

Re: 2015 BASE OSFM/HYBRID CREATION AND EXECUTION

It's a personal preference the hybrid is a complete re-rate and edits of the non created players (the players that are in the game to start). So if all you care about is getting accurate opening day rosters than the OSFM is great if you want the original in game players to be rated in the same rating system as the players that have been created then you should wait for hybrid roster.

Thanks, Trackstar for the info.

Have a great one


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[rjackson]

Re: 2015 BASE OSFM/HYBRID CREATION AND EXECUTION

2 SEPERATE rosters. Hybrid is the one that edits

Doesn't really answer my question though I understand since you keep getting the same question over and again. At one point, the MiLB players were going to be the same in both rosters but following recent unknown events, I was wondering if this was still the case? I finished up a 70 hour work week and haven't been keeping up. Just noticed the spreadsheet was hidden and was hoping to see WTNY's work on speed and glovework. Oh well, I'll just have to wait.

Thanks for doing these rosters each year. Wish I had the time to help out.

[rovert22044]

Re: 2015 BASE OSFM/HYBRID CREATION AND EXECUTION

Doesn't really answer my question though I understand since you keep getting the same question over and again. At one point, the MiLB players were going to be the same in both rosters but following recent unknown events, I was wondering if this was still the case? I finished up a 70 hour work week and haven't been keeping up. Just noticed the spreadsheet was hidden and was hoping to see WTNY's work on speed and glovework. Oh well, I'll just have to wait.

Thanks for doing these rosters each year. Wish I had the time to help out.

Hybrid will touch on the MILB player errors that will follow after release, because there always is.

[Teigh Cubs Teigh]

Re: 2015 BASE OSFM/HYBRID CREATION AND EXECUTION

Doesn't really answer my question though I understand since you keep getting the same question over and again. At one point, the MiLB players were going to be the same in both rosters but following recent unknown events, I was wondering if this was still the case? I finished up a 70 hour work week and haven't been keeping up. Just noticed the spreadsheet was hidden and was hoping to see WTNY's work on speed and glovework. Oh well, I'll just have to wait.

Thanks for doing these rosters each year. Wish I had the time to help out.

I think I understand your question. So then you're asking if the minor league player ratings are the same between both rosters, right?

If so, I believe that they will be this year based on everything that I've read though I would like clarification on this point as well if anyone who is more knowledgeable about this year's process could fill us in.

[Unsung Hero]

Re: 2015 BASE OSFM/HYBRID CREATION AND EXECUTION

You can but only after you start a franchise.

How do you do that? Thanks in advance.

[Willard76]

Re: 2015 BASE OSFM/HYBRID CREATION AND EXECUTION

Doesn't really answer my question though I understand since you keep getting the same question over and again. At one point, the MiLB players were going to be the same in both rosters but following recent unknown events, I was wondering if this was still the case? I finished up a 70 hour work week and haven't been keeping up. Just noticed the spreadsheet was hidden and was hoping to see WTNY's work on speed and glovework. Oh well, I'll just have to wait.



Thanks for doing these rosters each year. Wish I had the time to help out.

Yes I misunderstood. Minor league players should be the same with the exception of some players here and there. As soon as I check out the OSFM and it is complete I will start transferring ratings - although I may wait for Monday's roster update to see if they fix any errors

How do you do that? Thanks in advance.

30 team control. It will be explained when the roster drops

[Teigh Cubs Teigh]

Re: 2015 BASE OSFM/HYBRID CREATION AND EXECUTION

Yes I misunderstood. Minor league players should be the same with the exception of some players here and there. As soon as I check out the OSFM and it is complete I will start transferring ratings - although I may wait for Monday's roster update to see if they fix any errors

Awesome. Thanks for clearing that up. I think I'll be waiting for the Hybrid this year for the first time ever in that case. Should be worth the wait.

[Omerta]

Re: 2015 BASE OSFM/HYBRID CREATION AND EXECUTION

Awesome. Thanks for clearing that up. I think I'll be waiting for the Hybrid this year for the first time ever in that case. Should be worth the wait.

Agreed.
I'm new to this game. Haven't played video-game baseball since I was a kid on Atari.

Bought this yrs 'Show' for the first time ... I'm not a baseball guy (football & basketball) ... but after playing the week since purchasing, IMO this is the best sim sports video game I've ever played. I'm blown away. I've been missing out.

I've been debating with roster to begin with (OSFM or HYBRID). After reading post, think the Hybrid is the way to go and definitely worth the wait.

Thank you so much again guys (roster creators).


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[Threeebs]

Re: 2015 BASE OSFM/HYBRID CREATION AND EXECUTION

Yes I misunderstood. Minor league players should be the same with the exception of some players here and there. As soon as I check out the OSFM and it is complete I will start transferring ratings - although I may wait for Monday's roster update to see if they fix any errors

Since I'm not a Hybrid guy because of the variance between your ratings and the drafted rookies that are introduced into the game, I'm kind of disappointed that the OSFM isn't going to be exported on to the Monday update. I have a feeling after V1 release the OSFM will be pushed aside and not corrected but hopefully if I find time in between work I can do something for the community in this regard. Might take a while though lol...

[huskerfan4life]

Re: 2015 BASE OSFM/HYBRID CREATION AND EXECUTION

I have a question about the amature draft, i know with the hybrid roster the draft picks are inflated but will they be inflated with OSFM V1

[WaitTilNextYear]

Re: 2015 BASE OSFM/HYBRID CREATION AND EXECUTION

I have a question about the amature draft, i know with the hybrid roster the draft picks are inflated but will they be inflated with OSFM V1

Yes. Draft picks generally have higher POT values than the minor leaguers in OSFM or Hybrid. This is an issue for both roster sets, not just one or the other.

Most people make this a bigger deal than it really is though because it takes 3-5 years for these draft picks to matriculate through the minors after being picked, and they still need to progress from there. There are a lot of "A prospects" that come out with ratings so low, they will never reach their POT.

Furthermore, most people never get that deep into their franchise to begin with and those that do are probably more likely to be willing to edit the draft picks if it really bothers them.

[huskerfan4life]

Re: 2015 BASE OSFM/HYBRID CREATION AND EXECUTION

Yes. Draft picks generally have higher POT values than the minor leaguers in OSFM or Hybrid. This is an issue for both roster sets, not just one or the other.

Most people make this a bigger deal than it really is though because it takes 3-5 years for these draft picks to matriculate through the minors after being picked, and they still need to progress from there. There are a lot of "A prospects" that come out with ratings so low, they will never reach their POT.

Furthermore, most people never get that deep into their franchise to begin with and those that do are probably more likely to be willing to edit the draft picks if it really bothers them.

thanks very much for the explanition

[Threeebs]

Re: 2015 BASE OSFM/HYBRID CREATION AND EXECUTION

Yes. Draft picks generally have higher POT values than the minor leaguers in OSFM or Hybrid. This is an issue for both roster sets, not just one or the other.

Most people make this a bigger deal than it really is though because it takes 3-5 years for these draft picks to matriculate through the minors after being picked, and they still need to progress from there. There are a lot of "A prospects" that come out with ratings so low, they will never reach their POT.

Furthermore, most people never get that deep into their franchise to begin with and those that do are probably more likely to be willing to edit the draft picks if it really bothers them.

Actually my issue stems from the plethora of drafted rookies already having higher OVR's than the re-rated SCEA players in the Hybrid roster set. I'm a veteran of The Show series and with the ratings that SCEA puts out, you ever rarely have this issue. I know you work on the Hybrid and are a backer of it of course but this is an issue for this roster set that is barely an issue at all for the regular OSFM set. I'm not talking about potential at all either. The issue is OVR and OVR only because the CPU manages its rosters based on OVR more then any other outlier.

To say that most people don't get past 3-5 years in a franchise is really taking a biased stance on how you perceive people playing their franchise. I'm sure there are many like myself that play up to 20 seasons. Any roster design and outcome should be made so it can be used for however many seasons you want to play. Please don't take this the wrong way but don't assume all people play the way you personally handle a franchise...

[WaitTilNextYear]

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Actually my issue stems from the plethora of drafted rookies already having higher OVR's than the re-rated SCEA players in the Hybrid roster set. I'm a veteran of The Show series and with the ratings that SCEA puts out, you ever rarely have this issue. I know you work on the Hybrid and are a backer of it of course but this is an issue for this roster set that is barely an issue at all for the regular OSFM set. I'm not talking about potential at all either. The issue is OVR and OVR only because the CPU manages its rosters based on OVR more then any other outlier.

To say that most people don't get past 3-5 years in a franchise is really taking a biased stance on how you perceive people playing their franchise. I'm sure there are many like myself that play up to 20 seasons. Any roster design and outcome should be made so it can be used for however many seasons you want to play. Please don't take this the wrong way but don't assume all people play the way you personally handle a franchise...

Different strokes for different folks. I'd surmise that you are the outlier here with what I've bolded above. I'd be willing to bet money (of course we won't...TOS) that a majority of show players don't finish a single season of their franchise let alone a couple of decades. Remember that OS is for the hardest of the hardcore, so there likely are others like you, but many people downloading the rosters from the vault are not even OS members.

It's true that OVR ratings tend to be lower in the Hybrid than standard OSFM, but I haven't observed the same issues you have with freshly drafted players coming in with starter ratings. Maybe there are a handful of guys like that from each draft, but it's barely noticeable. Sometimes there are a few 60 OVRs with very modest POT (70s/low 80s), but this doesn't really have a massive impact as I think is being implied here (as in lots of MLB starters are displaced by 1st year professionals).