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  • OhioCub
    Rookie
    • Apr 2014
    • 409

    #61
    Re: Bastardized Pitch Edits 2015

    Originally posted by QuestGAV
    The movement on the circle change is more pronounced, the regular changes aren't as impressive, especially in terms of horizontal movement. Also, a lot of those guys actually throw circle changes, the base rosters don't have enough of them in there.
    To add to this, the truth is most (I'd say roughly 90%) of major league pitchers throw a circle change or a variation of it in which they only make a half circle as their primary change up. Very few guys use a traditional straight change as their primary change up these days. Also, the change up is probably the hardest pitch to figure out how to rate in this game because alot of pitchers throw multiple types of change ups depending on what they're trying to do but they're all so similar that pitch fx has no way to differentiate them.

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    • Antoni312
      Rookie
      • May 2012
      • 33

      #62
      Re: Bastardized Pitch Edits 2015

      Just wondering if anyone was gonna put these into OSFM V1 and then upload it to the vault? I really want to use these but just don't have enough free time from work to edit all those individual players
      Thanks in advance

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      • QuestGAV
        Rookie
        • Aug 2011
        • 315

        #63
        Re: Bastardized Pitch Edits 2015

        I don't know about OSFM v1 but I plan on putting them into Willard's roster and going to town.

        Finished up the re-edits tonight. Some book keeping stuff left to do on RFBs and forkballs and a whole bunch of guys to create but the real time consuming piece is now done!

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        • Antoni312
          Rookie
          • May 2012
          • 33

          #64
          Re: Bastardized Pitch Edits 2015

          I've never used Willard's roster, but they sound great, so I guess I'll be using them this year with your pitch edits. Thanks

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          • PhilliesFan13
            Banned
            • May 2009
            • 15651

            #65
            Re: Bastardized Pitch Edits 2015

            Originally posted by QuestGAV
            I don't know about OSFM v1 but I plan on putting them into Willard's roster and going to town.

            Finished up the re-edits tonight. Some book keeping stuff left to do on RFBs and forkballs and a whole bunch of guys to create but the real time consuming piece is now done!
            Are they already going to be in Willard's roster when released or are you just inputting them yourself after it is released?

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            • QuestGAV
              Rookie
              • Aug 2011
              • 315

              #66
              Re: Bastardized Pitch Edits 2015

              Originally posted by PhilliesFan13
              Are they already going to be in Willard's roster when released or are you just inputting them yourself after it is released?
              Will be after.

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              • PhilliesFan13
                Banned
                • May 2009
                • 15651

                #67
                Re: Bastardized Pitch Edits 2015

                Originally posted by QuestGAV
                Will be after.
                Ok. I saw you said you made some changes to the sheet. Were any of them the Braves, Marlins, Mets or Cardinals? I have already input the edits for those teams. Just seeing if I need to redo anything for them.
                Last edited by PhilliesFan13; 05-12-2015, 12:40 PM.

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                • bobloblah1980
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 459

                  #68
                  Re: Bastardized Pitch Edits 2015

                  So this on topic but sort of a sideways issue. I'm into 2021 in my offline franchise and I have been forced to edit pitcher ratings and potential to maintain the integrity as far as A,B.C,D players etc..

                  so I have been editing changes to the 10-12mph FB-CH spd differential.. any systems/formulas for lack of better terms for movement and control based on WHICH pitch the change is

                  ..example circle/ 2nd over say square/4th so by rights the guy with change as their 2nd pitch has better ratings than the guy with his change as the 4th or 5th best pitch? Obviously they would be better just trying to determine by how much..thoughts?
                  MLB The Show Hybrid Roster Contributor

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                  • QuestGAV
                    Rookie
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 315

                    #69
                    Re: Bastardized Pitch Edits 2015

                    Originally posted by PhilliesFan13
                    Ok. I saw you said you made some changes to the sheet. Were any of them the Braves, Marlins, Mets or Cardinals? I have already input the edits for those teams. Just seeing if I need to redo anything for them.
                    Just the guys with running fastballs if you did the teams after they turned green on the progress page.

                    Originally posted by bobloblah1980
                    ..example circle/ 2nd over say square/4th so by rights the guy with change as their 2nd pitch has better ratings than the guy with his change as the 4th or 5th best pitch? Obviously they would be better just trying to determine by how much..thoughts?
                    I think there probably should be some small correlation between usage % in real life and command rating in game... ie a guy throws a pitch more often because he knows he can put it where he wants to. But I think making that the only factor would be overly simplistic.

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                    • bobloblah1980
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 459

                      #70
                      Re: Bastardized Pitch Edits 2015

                      Originally posted by QuestGAV
                      I think there probably should be some small correlation between usage % in real life and command rating in game... ie a guy throws a pitch more often because he knows he can put it where he wants to. But I think making that the only factor would be overly simplistic.
                      I Understand what you are saying but I am talking 4 year plus into franchise mode when the crazy pitcher attribute progression kicks in you have lots of guys with bugs bunny type changes as their 3rd, 4th or 5th pitch and the game doesn't give you pitch usage stats. I was just looking for a little guidance or thoughts on how to combat in a way that's too complex..

                      I was thinking something like 3rd pitch mvmt and control is no higher than say 65, 4th pitch 50, 5th 40 something along those lines and this is just for change ups keep in mind. your thoughts?
                      MLB The Show Hybrid Roster Contributor

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                      • QuestGAV
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 315

                        #71
                        Re: Bastardized Pitch Edits 2015

                        Originally posted by bobloblah1980
                        I Understand what you are saying but I am talking 4 year plus into franchise mode when the crazy pitcher attribute progression kicks in you have lots of guys with bugs bunny type changes as their 3rd, 4th or 5th pitch and the game doesn't give you pitch usage stats. I was just looking for a little guidance or thoughts on how to combat in a way that's too complex..

                        I was thinking something like 3rd pitch mvmt and control is no higher than say 65, 4th pitch 50, 5th 40 something along those lines and this is just for change ups keep in mind. your thoughts?
                        Gotcha. Something simple like 1st/2nd pitch max = OVR, 3rd/4th pitch max = OVR-30, 5th/6th pitch = OVR-45 might suffice for you.

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                        • 55
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 20857

                          #72
                          Re: Bastardized Pitch Edits 2015

                          If we don't hear back from seanjeezy soon, I will volunteer to input the edits into OSFM v2 since the TC is concentrating on the Willard/hybrid roster. I have a ton of time off work coming up so I could probably hammer them out in a matter of a few days.

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                          • Fcshuckers73
                            Pro
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 741

                            #73
                            Re: Bastardized Pitch Edits 2015

                            Originally posted by 55
                            If we don't hear back from seanjeezy soon, I will volunteer to input the edits into OSFM v2 since the TC is concentrating on the Willard/hybrid roster. I have a ton of time off work coming up so I could probably hammer them out in a matter of a few days.
                            That would be awesome, 55! Having Willards roster (I think his will be done first out of the three being worked on?) plus the pitch edits only a couple days after release. That is very much appreciated, man. I would love to help and feel guilty I cant, but I work so much that I really only have time to squeeze in a game every few days or so. That is why it takes me so long to finish a season (I play all 162 games, every inning, no QC). You and others like you that help the community are very appreciated!

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                            • 55
                              Banned
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 20857

                              #74
                              Re: Bastardized Pitch Edits 2015

                              It's no problem at all. Ridin, Quest, seanjeezy, Willard, Motown, WTNY, redsfan4life and all the people who helped work on OSFM deserve all the credit. I'll merely be doing data entry that those dudes have already compiled. As far as this type of stuff goes, those dudes are up on the 44th floor wheeling and dealing while I'm down in the mailroom just sorting through stuff.

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                              • PhilliesFan13
                                Banned
                                • May 2009
                                • 15651

                                #75
                                Re: Bastardized Pitch Edits 2015

                                Originally posted by 55
                                It's no problem at all. Ridin, Quest, seanjeezy, Willard, Motown, WTNY, redsfan4life and all the people who helped work on OSFM deserve all the credit. I'll merely be doing data entry that those dudes have already compiled. As far as this type of stuff goes, those dudes are up on the 44th floor wheeling and dealing while I'm down in the mailroom just sorting through stuff.
                                If you want to speed things up, I would be willing to split this with you. One of us could do the AL and the other the NL.

                                Is it possible for Ridin to get them on one roster if we split the work?

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