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  • Willard76
    MVP
    • Mar 2012
    • 2841

    #796
    Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

    Originally posted by rovert22044
    I guess that means our crew is out? Thanks for the heads up, I guess. Lol


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    It was asked weeks ago if you guys wanted to join forces. I was told then that you guys decided to bring your project back which is cool. Teeds and I decided we were going to work on something while there was no Hybrid being planned according to this thread and while the CRP and OSFM were still being discussed.

    We haven’t decided officially if we are bringing back the original Hybrid as of yet. We are working on it but it also depends on time consumption. If anyone is interested in helping out with our project please reach out to teeds or myself.

    Willard


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    • rovert22044
      OCD Roster Editor
      • Dec 2010
      • 2509

      #797
      Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

      Originally posted by Willard76
      It was asked weeks ago if you guys wanted to join forces. I was told then that you guys decided to bring your project back which is cool. Teeds and I decided we were going to work on something while there was no Hybrid being planned according to this thread and while the CRP and OSFM were still being discussed.

      We haven’t decided officially if we are bringing back the original Hybrid as of yet. We are working on it but it also depends on time consumption. If anyone is interested in helping out with our project please reach out to teeds or myself.

      Willard


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      TheGame nor I received any offer to merge groups. If we did, I’m sure we would have had no issue. Bravesfan got an offer to leave us and join your group, but that’s the only offer we got as far as I know.

      It is what it is. The Hybrid name is yours and we have zero issue giving you the project back. We just feel a little disrespected for being shown the door with no word after keeping this project alive the last 2-3 years, or however long ago we took over.


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      • TheGame8544
        MVP
        • Jul 2003
        • 1656

        #798
        Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

        Originally posted by rovert22044
        TheGame nor I received any offer to merge groups. If we did, I’m sure we would have had no issue. Bravesfan got an offer to leave us and join your group, but that’s the only offer we got as far as I know.

        It is what it is. The Hybrid name is yours and we have zero issue giving you the project back. We just feel a little disrespected for being shown the door with no word after keeping this project alive the last 2-3 years, or however long ago we took over.


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        Given that my calculator was used as the basis for Hybrid ratings the last two years and I never received anything from Willard or Teeds about merging, then it doesn’t sound a whole lot like a merger. [emoji1787]

        Willard simply tried to jack bravesfan from our crew to bring onboard to his own using their own ratings. At least that’s how it came off. Mad props to bravesfan for his honesty and being upfront with us. He’s a valuable member of the group, so I can understand why you wanted him as part of your crew. [emoji6]

        But hey, no hard feelings. Like I said above, the roster name is Willard’s, and the more rosters out there the better.

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        • teeds
          Pro
          • Jun 2003
          • 551

          #799
          Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

          Originally posted by rovert22044
          I guess that means our crew is out? Thanks for the heads up, I guess. Lol


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          Not necessarily but there was a post a couple weeks back saying that the roster wasn’t going to be worked on and those that did last year weren’t buying the game. What am I missing?
          Last edited by teeds; 04-12-2019, 02:05 PM.

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          • rovert22044
            OCD Roster Editor
            • Dec 2010
            • 2509

            #800
            Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

            Originally posted by teeds
            Not necessarily but there was a post back saying that the roster wasn’t going to be worked on and most weren’t buying the game. What am I missing?

            Was that post made by TheGame or I? Some said they weren’t buying it, but that was mainly out of frustration. They have the game and things were continuing as planned. If TheGame or I came in here and said it’s not continuing, then I understand, but we never said anything.


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            • KingOfLanglade
              Pro
              • Feb 2018
              • 706

              #801
              Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

              Personally, I hope Willard and Teeds get the band back together. Their hybrid rosters were the gold standard of rerates. On the contrary, TheGame/Rovert filled a big void and kept us “rerate truthers” from being left out in the cold the last two editions! Forever thankful to you guys, and your team for picking up the slack!


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              • bravesfan1984
                MVP
                • Mar 2008
                • 2808

                #802
                Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

                Hey guys, just wanted to chime in. I posted a bit ago that our team had plans on ceasing editing for 19, but things have changed since then and we now have a little more free time than we anticipated (albeit small), plus that baseball itch is one you just can't ignore, no matter how hard you try. We now plan to move forward using the full minors roster from Ridin tonight as our base. (Kudos to that team, they do some incredible work and being able to use their roster as a base is an honor).



                Willard and teeds, if you guys plan on doing your thing with the original hybrid name, that's fine. We have no issues marketing our rosters under another name.



                Rovert will be posting a thread with more details on our version soon so keep an eye out for that.
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                • teeds
                  Pro
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 551

                  #803
                  Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

                  Originally posted by bravesfan1984
                  Hey guys, just wanted to chime in. I posted a bit ago that our team had plans on ceasing editing for 19, but things have changed since then and we now have a little more free time than we anticipated (albeit small), plus that baseball itch is one you just can't ignore, no matter how hard you try. We now plan to move forward using the full minors roster from Ridin tonight as our base. (Kudos to that team, they do some incredible work and being able to use their roster as a base is an honor).



                  Willard and teeds, if you guys plan on doing your thing with the original hybrid name, that's fine. We have no issues marketing our rosters under another name.



                  Rovert will be posting a thread with more details on our version soon so keep an eye out for that.

                  Is this speaking for everyone now? Are you guys in agreeance?

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                  • rovert22044
                    OCD Roster Editor
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 2509

                    #804
                    Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

                    Originally posted by teeds
                    Is this speaking for everyone now? Are you guys in agreeance?

                    Did you not read my response to you, or are you just going to ignore it? Lol

                    Just try to not nab our guys when y’all get burnt out. Lol


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                    • Willard76
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 2841

                      #805
                      Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

                      Originally posted by TheGame8544
                      Given that my calculator was used as the basis for Hybrid ratings the last two years and I never received anything from Willard or Teeds about merging, then it doesn’t sound a whole lot like a merger. [emoji1787]

                      Willard simply tried to jack bravesfan from our crew to bring onboard to his own using their own ratings. At least that’s how it came off. Mad props to bravesfan for his honesty and being upfront with us. He’s a valuable member of the group, so I can understand why you wanted him as part of your crew. [emoji6]

                      But hey, no hard feelings. Like I said above, the roster name is Willard’s, and the more rosters out there the better.


                      There was no trying to jack anyone.

                      Plain and simple my understanding at the time of the email was there was going to be no Hybrid this year, the last half of the year last year Bravesfan was the only one who seemed to be carrying on last years Hybrid so I asked if he was interested in joining our group to continue on our version of the project. He politely explained that you guys were going to pick up where you left off last year and left it to me to choose if I wanted to use Hybrid name once again which I did not answer back to because we were still deciding what we were doing on our end.

                      I had no idea that Rovert and TheGame were even still involved or you guys may have been asked to join in as well. I have a lot of respect for the work you guys did last year and was part of the project the year before.

                      I don’t think the mud slinging needs to continue past here seeing that it is based more on misunderstanding than anything factual.

                      I wish you guys nothing but the best with your roster. As Ridin said in a post today the more rosters that are out there are good for the community and hopefully SDS realizes there is still a passion for Franchise


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                      • TheGame8544
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 1656

                        #806
                        Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

                        Originally posted by baxtercherry
                        Personally, I hope Willard and Teeds get the band back together. Their hybrid rosters were the gold standard of rerates. On the contrary, TheGame/Rovert filled a big void and kept us “rerate truthers” from being left out in the cold the last two editions! Forever thankful to you guys, and your team for picking up the slack!


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                        Appreciate the kind words, and I hope you’ll give our new project a chance as well. The calculator is night and day different from when Willard last used it. I understand they have their methods, but ours are proven as well. So that everyone can see how we base our calculator, I am strongly considering releasing the calc as part of the roster release. It’ll be a one time thing with no updates, but this way you can see how we derive our ratings. There’s no subjectivity involved. It’s nothing more that stats, pitch fx data, and prospect rankings.

                        I too look into the past with fondness. I have nothing but respect for the old Hybrid team, but we all wouldn’t continue doing this project if we didn’t believe strongly in OUR methods as more than just filling in the void.

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                        • teeds
                          Pro
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 551

                          #807
                          Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

                          Originally posted by rovert22044
                          Did you not read my response to you, or are you just going to ignore it? Lol

                          Just try to not nab our guys when y’all get burnt out. Lol


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                          Of course I did, hence my questions. It wasn't posted by you or the game.



                          What am I missing? Why the caustic tone? I don't understand where it's coming from.

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                          • bravesfan1984
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 2808

                            #808
                            Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

                            Originally posted by Willard76
                            There was no trying to jack anyone.

                            Plain and simple my understanding at the time of the email was there was going to be no Hybrid this year, the last half of the year last year Bravesfan was the only one who seemed to be carrying on last years Hybrid so I asked if he was interested in joining our group to continue on our version of the project. He politely explained that you guys were going to pick up where you left off last year and left it to me to choose if I wanted to use Hybrid name once again which I did not answer back to because we were still deciding what we were doing on our end.

                            I had no idea that Rovert and TheGame were even still involved or you guys may have been asked to join in as well. I have a lot of respect for the work you guys did last year and was part of the project the year before.

                            I don’t think the mud slinging needs to continue past here seeing that it is based more on misunderstanding than anything factual.

                            I wish you guys nothing but the best with your roster. As Ridin said in a post today the more rosters that are out there are good for the community and hopefully SDS realizes there is still a passion for Franchise


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                            Wish you guys all the best with your version as well. Having a variety of rosters out there for the community is a good thing and hopefully will let SDS know that franchise isn't dead!
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                            • TheGame8544
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 1656

                              #809
                              Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

                              Originally posted by Willard76
                              There was no trying to jack anyone.

                              Plain and simple my understanding at the time of the email was there was going to be no Hybrid this year, the last half of the year last year Bravesfan was the only one who seemed to be carrying on last years Hybrid so I asked if he was interested in joining our group to continue on our version of the project. He politely explained that you guys were going to pick up where you left off last year and left it to me to choose if I wanted to use Hybrid name once again which I did not answer back to because we were still deciding what we were doing on our end.

                              I had no idea that Rovert and TheGame were even still involved or you guys may have been asked to join in as well. I have a lot of respect for the work you guys did last year and was part of the project the year before.

                              I don’t think the mud slinging needs to continue past here seeing that it is based more on misunderstanding than anything factual.

                              I wish you guys nothing but the best with your roster. As Ridin said in a post today the more rosters that are out there are good for the community and hopefully SDS realizes there is still a passion for Franchise


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                              Certainly didn’t attempt to do any mud slinging.

                              I reached out to you on Twitter when you said you were getting back into roster editing about a month ago inviting you to be part of the team. Next thing I know, you are inviting one of our key members to join up with you.

                              Am I missing something?

                              But like I said, no hard feelings. If you want to utilize your own method for rating players, that’s perfectly fine. It just seemed a bit underhanded to privately message a member of our team to join you.

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                              • rovert22044
                                OCD Roster Editor
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 2509

                                #810
                                Re: 2018 OSFM Hybrid Roster Project

                                Originally posted by teeds
                                Of course I did, hence my questions. It wasn't posted by you or the game.



                                What am I missing? Why the caustic tone? I don't understand where it's coming from.

                                Yeah but my post to you before his post WAS made by me, and it clearly stated we are carrying on the roster. You conveniently missed that. Lol

                                The tone is coming from us being disrespected. We have zero issue if someone went to us and said they didn’t want to merge. However, when someone claims they offered a merger of the two groups when they really just tried to steal one of our lead editors left a sour taste in our mouth. You’d think for keeping this project alive for a couple years we would at least garner some sort of respect. Without us, this project is dead with zero followers. We kept it going and then we’re kicked to the curb, messages ignored, and then twisted to make it seem like we were given an option to continue editing with the project when we didn’t.

                                Anyway, it’s really not that big of a deal. We just want to make it known to the fans we brought in that we’re not editing on the Hybrid roster this year by force, not by choice.

                                Best of luck to y’all this next year.


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