Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike %

[itbeme23]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

How are these sliders for a RTTS pitcher? Should I even use custom sliders for RTTS?

Hey, man. I haven't dove into RTTS this season yet, and to be honest, it's not something that I focus on too much anyway. But last year, I used my slider set in my RTTS, and everything seemed to be okay. Again, I don't have anything to compare it to, but it seemed to have worked. Best thing to do is try them out and see how they perform.

I made an excel speadsheet if you want to check it out. I got 2 games on the spread sheet with the timing back at 5 and power down to 4. Check it out when you get the chance. And if anyone want they can download it and improve on it if they want just give me a little credit...



https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1g...ew?usp=sharing

Tony,

I have a spreadsheet created for my test games as well. I used Google sheets, since I have a Mac at home, and I don't have Microsoft Office on it. Sheets isn't quite as easy to navigate as Excel, but it did the job. Good job on keeping accurate track of your stats, and I'm damn happy about those strike percentages. LOL

[tonyfire2001]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

I made an excel speadsheet if you want to check it out. I got 2 games on the spread sheet with the timing back at 5 and power down to 4. Check it out when you get the chance. And if anyone want they can download it and improve on it if they want just give me a little credit...



https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1g...ew?usp=sharing

I am going to keep this updated with my stats as I play games. I hope this helps out alot, cause this is my last weekend at home for the next 2 months. Its that time for me out go out and protect everyone's freedoms, so I won't be home when you finish this slider set so I am doing my best to give you the tools that you need to do it and all the stats I can manage.

[itbeme23]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

Guys,

We're getting to the point now where the OSFM rosters will be out at some point this weekend. Normally, I wouldn't start a franchise without having my slider set nailed down as close to perfect as I can get it, and I feel the same this year. On the flip side of that, having the OSFM rosters makes me want to dive straight into a franchise, but I don't like the idea of rushing a slider set and making changes on the fly during my Dodgers franchise.

With that being said, I plan on doing as much testing as I possibly can this weekend, with the hopes of getting the set franchise ready. I plan on focusing on the areas where we haven't really tested in depth, as well as finalizing the areas of the game where there aren't any significant changes (if any) needed to the sliders.

I would like to get some feedback from the guys who are using the sliders as they are posted with minimal adjustments (Tonyfire, Kid24, and whoever else I may have missed).

Please let me know how you feel about the following:

1. How do you feel about CPU Starter Stamina (5), CPU Reliever Stamina (0), and Manager Hook (4)? Are you getting realistic results as far as starters being left in the game when they should? Are CPU Relievers tiring at a realistic rate, and being pulled from the game when the situation dictates?

2. Do you think that any adjustments need to be made to the Infielder/Outfielder Fielding Error sliders?

- Personally, up to this point, I feel like I've been seeing a realistic amount of errors occurring during my test games. Now that we've made the adjustments to the Infielder/Outfielder Throwing Error sliders to reduce the amount of errant throws to cut-off men/relays, I don't see an need for any adjustments to the fielding error sliders at this time. Thoughts?

3. Adjustments to Infielder/Outfielder Arm Strength?

- I think that Infielder Arm Strength at 3 is perfect. Again, it's more for aesthetic purposes really. I don't see rocket throws occurring when they shouldn't, and every play that should be made is being made. I have a slight concern with Outfielder Arm Strength. I think it may need to come down one more click. I've seen a few plays at home plate, where the outfielder guns the ball to home, and he ends up getting the runner out by a significant distance. I mean the ball is already in the catcher's glove, and the runner is barely halfway between 3rd and home plate. Whenever this happens, I look at the fielder's Arm Strength rating, and they're usually in the upper 70's range. Again, what constitutes a "cannon arm"? Is that type of result acceptable for a 78 or 79 Arm Strength rated player? Thoughts?

4. Base stealing sliders? Frequency and Ability.

- This is an area of the game where I just haven't paid enough attention to make any determinations on whether any adjustments are needed. What observations have you guys made, and do you think we need to change anything?

5. Injuries?

- I still haven't seen an injury since I started testing. I can raise this slider up to 9 to see if that helps. My concern with that is how that will affect simulated games during a franchise. Thoughts on that?

Let me know what you guys think!

[tonyfire2001]

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1. How do you feel about CPU Starter Stamina (5), CPU Reliever Stamina (0), and Manager Hook (4)? Are you getting realistic results as far as starters being left in the game when they should? Are CPU Relievers tiring at a realistic rate, and being pulled from the game when the situation dictates?

Taking a look at my numbers from the last 4 games I have played the CPU has been in for about 6 innings which is the MLB avg, So I think we are good to go there. Reliever and Manager Hook is great the relievers are pitching only one inning unless getting hammered and the Long Relievers are staying in for about 2 which is about avgerage for the MLB. I think we are good for these.

2. Do you think that any adjustments need to be made to the Infielder/Outfielder Fielding Error sliders?

- Personally, up to this point, I feel like I've been seeing a realistic amount of errors occurring during my test games. Now that we've made the adjustments to the Infielder/Outfielder Throwing Error sliders to reduce the amount of errant throws to cut-off men/relays, I don't see an need for any adjustments to the fielding error sliders at this time. Thoughts?

The errors have looked good also according to my tracker...I think they are set as well

3. Adjustments to Infielder/Outfielder Arm Strength?

- I think that Infielder Arm Strength at 3 is perfect. Again, it's more for aesthetic purposes really. I don't see rocket throws occurring when they shouldn't, and every play that should be made is being made. I have a slight concern with Outfielder Arm Strength. I think it may need to come down one more click. I've seen a few plays at home plate, where the outfielder guns the ball to home, and he ends up getting the runner out by a significant distance. I mean the ball is already in the catcher's glove, and the runner is barely halfway between 3rd and home plate. Whenever this happens, I look at the fielder's Arm Strength rating, and they're usually in the upper 70's range. Again, what constitutes a "cannon arm"? Is that type of result acceptable for a 78 or 79 Arm Strength rated player? Thoughts?

I like Infield arm strength at 3, alot more closer plays at the bag. As for the Outfield for me I have only seen one guy get thrown out at home. I can double check that but I have not seen it.

4. Base stealing sliders? Frequency and Ability.

- This is an area of the game where I just haven't paid enough attention to make any determinations on whether any adjustments are needed. What observations have you guys made, and do you think we need to change anything?

This is a tricky one cause you have guys that will run on anything and other (like me) that hardly run at all. I have been doing Auto run to see the cpu in action for this. It might have to go up one click for both, but I want to see more evidence on this one

5. Injuries?

- I still haven't seen an injury since I started testing. I can raise this slider up to 9 to see if that helps. My concern with that is how that will affect simulated games during a franchise. Thoughts on that?

Let me know what you guys think!

I just got my first injury also, but I am only 2nd day into season also (Playing every game as home team) I think I have read somewhere that Knight had the injuries up to 10 on playing and around 7 or 8 for simming. but I can't remember where I read that.


New update to my excel file 4 games in the books with the test sliders..

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

[The Kid 24]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

I have a few comments...

- I changed the two steal sliders to 6... Been seeing some nice results, sure it was only 2 games but the base stealers are stealing at a realistic rate.

- I agree with Infield Arm Strength, its good at 3... I think I would be fine with OF Arm Strength at 3 as well.

- Probably can't do anything about this but... OF's not catching routine flyballs... For example, last night I had Jose Bautista miss a fly ball that he was almost camped under.

But I'm hoping to get some test games on Sunday.

How close you think we are to a final set?

[RogueHominid]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

How are user HR numbers with these?

[itbeme23]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

Game 20 (From last night)

LAD: 1 4 0
KC: 7 9 0

Win: D. Duffy - 6 IP, 3 H, 1 $, 1 ER, 1 BB, 4 K, 90 Pitches, 59 Strikes, 31 Balls, 66% Overall Strikes, 52% First Pitch Strikes
Loss: B. Anderson - 5 IP, 5 H, 5 R, 5 ER, 2 BB, 2 K, 84 Pitches, 49 Strikes, 35 Balls, 58% Overall Strikes, 55% First Pitch Strikes

Team Pitching:

LAD: 140 Pitches, 82 Strikes, 58 Balls, 59% Overall Strikes, 50% First Pitch Strikes
KC: 127 Pitches, 83 Strikes, 44 Balls, 65% Overall Strikes, 55% First Pitch Strikes

Team Strikeouts:

LAD: 5
KC: 4

Team Walks:

LAD: 1
KC: 4

Team Hitting:

LAD:
2B: J. Rollins
4 Hits/30 At-Bats = .133 BA

KC:
2B: A. Escobar, M. Moustakas
3B: A. Escobar
HR: Moustakas
8 Hits/30 At-Bats = .267 BA

[itbeme23]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

Just a quick note about errors.

Here are my stats from testing:

Total Errors (15 games): 10
Average Errors Per Game: 0.67 (In-Game) vs. 0.66 (LAD 2014)

Opponents Total Errors (15 Games): 7
Average Errors Per Game: 0.46 (In-Game) vs. 0.60 (MLB 2014)


Now, if I take into account the additional 4 games that I tested over the last couple of days:

Total Errors (19 Games): 11
Average Errors Per Game: 0.58 (In-Game) vs. (0.66 LAD 2014)

Opponents Total Errors (19 Games): 9
Average Errors Per Game: 0.47 (In-Game) vs. 0.60 (MLB 2014)

Based on these numbers, I'd say that we're good as far as errors go. I don't think there should be any other changes made. What do you guys think?

[itbeme23]

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How are user HR numbers with these?

At or slightly below the MLB average. At least from my testing up to this point.

[The Kid 24]

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Just a quick note about errors.

Here are my stats from testing:

Total Errors (15 games): 10
Average Errors Per Game: 0.67 (In-Game) vs. 0.66 (LAD 2014)

Opponents Total Errors (15 Games): 7
Average Errors Per Game: 0.46 (In-Game) vs. 0.60 (MLB 2014)


Now, if I take into account the additional 4 games that I tested over the last couple of days:

Total Errors (19 Games): 11
Average Errors Per Game: 0.58 (In-Game) vs. (0.66 LAD 2014)

Opponents Total Errors (19 Games): 9
Average Errors Per Game: 0.47 (In-Game) vs. 0.60 (MLB 2014)

Based on these numbers, I'd say that we're good as far as errors go. I don't think there should be any other changes made. What do you guys think?

After looking at that, should be good with INF & OF errors then... The flyball issue with Bautista (see my post about it), I shouldn't make a big deal about since it's probably very rare for this to happen over and over.

Sliders are playing really well... Really liking where the Pitching sliders are at for both HUM & CPU.

Damn man... I don't think ur too far off to post a FINAL set!

[The Kid 24]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

It... What you think about HUM Solid Hits to 6?

Reason I'm asking... I guess this could have just been me & this is one game...

From the game I played last night (Was too tired to finish) but I couldn't make **** for good/solid contact against Dallas Kuechel... But that just might have been good pitching on his part... He kept me off balance with all his high 80's stuff... I'm used to hard throwers.

I'll try some more test games against different SPs to see what results I guess.

[The_Gryphon75]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

Just a quick note about errors.

Here are my stats from testing:

Total Errors (15 games): 10
Average Errors Per Game: 0.67 (In-Game) vs. 0.66 (LAD 2014)

Opponents Total Errors (15 Games): 7
Average Errors Per Game: 0.46 (In-Game) vs. 0.60 (MLB 2014)


Now, if I take into account the additional 4 games that I tested over the last couple of days:

Total Errors (19 Games): 11
Average Errors Per Game: 0.58 (In-Game) vs. (0.66 LAD 2014)

Opponents Total Errors (19 Games): 9
Average Errors Per Game: 0.47 (In-Game) vs. 0.60 (MLB 2014)

Based on these numbers, I'd say that we're good as far as errors go. I don't think there should be any other changes made. What do you guys think?

I can tell you that I've made the changes to the sliders that I had set, based on yours, finding myself in a situation to say the least formidable. I played a game of Franchise (by the way, also I'll reboot with the roster OSFM), the 3rd game of the series in Phoenix and I tell you that the stats have been wonderful. Match finished in 12th inning with 3 hits for Arizona and 2 hits for Los Angeles. An impressive battle of mounds. Ultimately the whole game that had a feeling of "real".
I think I will leave the sliders as they are on the 1st page of the topic. Later, tomorrow, i will post even my gameplay options so you can see how your sliders can be applied with a different style of gameplay.

[tonyfire2001]

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How are user HR numbers with these?

So far I have seen 2 HR in 4 games so we are just below MLB avg of .86/game. I am not just playing one team and going. I have played so far the Home team for all the games on Tuesday the 2nd day in the season. Now I am working on all the Vistors for the 3rd games of the season.

[tonyfire2001]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

It... What you think about HUM Solid Hits to 6?

Reason I'm asking... I guess this could have just been me & this is one game...

From the game I played last night (Was too tired to finish) but I couldn't make **** for good/solid contact against Dallas Kuechel... But that just might have been good pitching on his part... He kept me off balance with all his high 80's stuff... I'm used to hard throwers.

I'll try some more test games against different SPs to see what results I guess.

DON'T TOUCH IT ITBEME!!!! its like a shiny red button right now and you don't want to push it...LOL....Don't get slideritis I believe the Soild Hits are good, cause if you bump it up, that means your XB will raise up and right now I think we are good on where they should be.

The only thing I would look at then is the Contact slider but only if you believe we are not getting the .250 avg, but the down side of that is it will throw your strike % higher cause you will be make more contact on the ball, so that will lead to more foul offs and less swing and misses.....

I think we are right on with the sliders we just need to work on the SB and Injuries, plus we are one of the few slider forums here that produce our evidence through box scores, so we show why your sliders "ARE THE ****"...LOL

[The Kid 24]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

DON'T TOUCH IT ITBEME!!!! its like a shiny red button right now and you don't want to push it...LOL....Don't get slideritis I believe the Soild Hits are good, cause if you bump it up, that means your XB will raise up and right now I think we are good on where they should be.

The only thing I would look at then is the Contact slider but only if you believe we are not getting the .250 avg, but the down side of that is it will throw your strike % higher cause you will be make more contact on the ball, so that will lead to more foul offs and less swing and misses.....

I think we are right on with the sliders we just need to work on the SB and Injuries, plus we are one of the few slider forums here that produce our evidence through box scores, so we show why your sliders "ARE THE ****"...LOL

Haha good post...

Thinking more about it... HUM Solid hits at 5 is good... Like I said was probably just me or that one game.

I'll play some more test games.