Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike %

[El_MaYiMbE]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

itbeme are these sliders in the vault?
If so, what is the name?

[itbeme23]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

itbeme are these sliders in the vault?
If so, what is the name?

Haven't posted them in the vault yet, but I can tonight if you'd like.

[tonyfire2001]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

Game 3

ANA: 11 13 4 (cpu)
SEA: 8 12 0 (me)

Win: F. Salas (1-0)
Loss: Y. Medina (0-1)

Starting Pitching:
J. Weaver: 7 IP, 6 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 0 BB, 5 K, 85 Pitches, 61 Strikes, 24 Balls, 72% Overall Strikes, 59% First Pitch Strikes

J. Paxton: 5.0 IP, 4 H, 4 R,4 ER, 1 BB, 5 K, 85 Pitches, 55 Strikes, 30 Balls, 65% Overall Strikes, 50% First Pitch Strikes

Team Pitching:

ANA: 159 Pitches, 109 Strikes, 50 Balls, 69% Overall Strikes, 61% First Pitch Strikes
SEA: 219 Pitches, 141 Strikes, 78 Balls, 64% Overall Strikes, 58% First Pitch Strikes

Team Strikeouts:

ANA: 12
SEA: 10

Team Walks:

ANA: 6
SEA: 0

Extra Base Hits:
ANA: 9 / 13 hits
2B: A. Pujols 2 (2), C.Cron (1), E. A Aybar (1), J. Rutledge (1), J. Hamilton (1)
3B: E. Aybar (1)
HR: C. Ianetta (1), J. Rutledge (1)
.271 avg

SEA: 5/ 12 hits
3B: S.Smith (1)
HR: S. Smith (1), B. Miller (1), J. Success 2 (2)
.240 avg

Error
ANA: 4
D. Freeze 2 (2), J. Rutledge (1), M. Trout (1)

What a game. So there I was just playing way and then the steroids kicked in for both Teams. This is playing to your OP with the solid hits up to 7 for cpu. Only one game so far and we all know the halos are can put that type of number so no concern yet. The errors should have been 3 cause the Trout error was not an error. I looked at the replay and there was nothing wrong with the play. But I will keep an eye on that too. The outfielders seem a little sluggish to me they appear to allow the ball to roll to the gaps longer. Another thing to watch cause of the triples. That is 2 in 3 games for me and on average I should be having 1 every 10 days. Now that I said something I won't see another until May. LOL.

Anyway, great job on the posting keep it up and it fells good to be back itbeme. I'm glad that I can help out and we have a following now.

[SupremeYankee]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

Home, I read through the thread to see if anything had been greatly modified since I was last testing and it seems all is the same, i didnt bump up CPU Solid so Im still at a 6.

One thing I have changed for the few games I plan on playing today is I took my pitch speed down to a 7 from a 10. My logic behind this is Im thinking if I have an extra second to identify the pitch I can lower my swing ratio by not guessing so much, while I prefer the speed high it seems to be off alot this year anyway so I will begin at a 7 (the lowest I feel I can go) and try to work from there. Im really hoping this allows me to see the ball a bit better but Im not sure if it will fix the issue I feel dynamic pitch break is causing in that the variation in pitch speed is so extreme.

I will post results after each game.

[The Kid 24]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

Did this display box on the lower left side get removed in MLB 15? I don't remember seeing it in the games I played.

[itbeme23]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

Kid,

That screen was removed. I actually like it better, because I prefer a clean screen setup anyway. You can still access the swing and pitch info if you press R2. (I'm sure you knew that already).

[CSUFresnoClassof2011]

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Are these sliders good for the RTTS? Then are the numbers given increasing from the default slidersor or once you put them at zero? Thanks for the help & time you've put into this.

[dsmith710]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

Played a game as the Phillies, @ Cubs. Pitched with each teams #3 starters. I won 6-0. Had 10 K's, I struck out 12 times, however some of those were due to me being a moron. My plate discipline is rusty.

There's no glaring issues that I've noticed that need changed. But I would need to dive deep into the statistics to really find out if any tweaks are needed.

I appreciate what you've got going here itbeme, definitely would like to know if you make any changes, however I can't give you any strike percentages, since I use quick counts.

[SupremeYankee]

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So as I mentioned before I dropped my pitch speed to a 7 and yes it did in fact help, It actually helped alot. 10 hits (2 should have been 2B's but I muffed the baserunning) and I had much better pitch recognition but those damn braves just kept throwing strikes.

I have to mention I did change 2 sliders on the fly in this game,

Fielder Reaction was dropped to a 5 I had a bunch of balls that were line shots heading to the gap and some drives in the infield that should have been hits and the fielder was just there, the reaction drop didnt seem to factor in too much after that but Im going to leave it at a 5 for the time being to see how it plays out.

Human Timing bumped up to a 6 I am still going to play with this one a little but with the variation in pitch speed in this years version (I might be crazy but its killing me and Im usually a 10 pitch speed and a decent hitter) I feel like making the timing window a bit larger will allow me to adjust a bit faster. I did notice an almost immediate difference here, I was on pitches better and while I didnt crush the ball I did seem to be making more and better contact throughout the game.

The Sliders I changed Im chalking up to preference and to getting myself adjusted to the game. I will play a few with them like this and post all stats.

ATL: 4 9 0
WAS: 2 10 1

Win: A. Wood - 6.2 IP, 9 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 5 K, 73 Pitches, 57 Strikes, 14 Balls, 78% Overall Strikes, 86% First Pitch Strikes
Loss: S. Strasburg - 7 IP, 6 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 4 K, 95 Pitches, 73 Strikes, 22 Balls, 77% Overall Strikes, 79% First Pitch Strikes

Team Pitching:

ATL: 85 Pitches, 68 Strikes, 17 Balls, 80% Overall Strikes, 86% First Pitch Strikes
WAS: 125 Pitches, 96 Strikes, 29 Balls, 77% Overall Strikes, 76% First Pitch Strikes

Team Strikeouts:

ATL: 5
WAS: 6

Team Walks:

ATL: 1
WAS: 1

Extra Base Hits:

ATL: 3
2B: A. Simmons
3B: Bethancourt
HR: C. Johnson

WAS: 1
HR: Zimmerman

[The Kid 24]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

Kid,

That screen was removed. I actually like it better, because I prefer a clean screen setup anyway. You can still access the swing and pitch info if you press R2. (I'm sure you knew that already).

I thought so... Ok I wasnt losing my mind... Haha.

[tonyfire2001]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

Game 4

OAK: 5 11 3 (cpu)
SEA: 4 6 2 (me)

Win: R. Cook (1-0)
Loss: Y. Medina (0-1)

Starting Pitching:
J. Hahn: 5 IP, 5 H, 4 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, 85 Pitches, 50 Strikes, 35 Balls, 59% Overall Strikes, 55% First Pitch Strikes

J. Paxton: 6.1 IP, 8 H, 2 R,2 ER, 0 BB, 3 K, 94 Pitches, 66 Strikes, 28 Balls, 70% Overall Strikes, 65% First Pitch Strikes

Team Pitching:

OAK: 149 Pitches, 84 Strikes, 65 Balls,56% Overall Strikes, 46% First Pitch Strikes
SEA: 174 Pitches, 112 Strikes, 62 Balls, 64% Overall Strikes, 66% First Pitch Strikes

Team Strikeouts:

ANA: 7
SEA: 3

Team Walks:

ANA: 3
SEA: 4

Extra Base Hits:
OAK: 4 / 11 hits
2B: B. Lawrie (1), M. Semien (1)
HR: B. Lawrie (1), I. Davis (2)
.289 avg

SEA: 2/ 6 hits
2B: B.Miller (2)
HR: R. Cano (1)
.171 avg

Error
Oak: 3
B. Zobrist (1), B. Lawrie 2 (2)

Sea: 2
S. Smith (1), W. Bloomquist (1)

OK, another game down and this was another good game. I think the cpu errors slider do need come down. In 4 games 8 errors. That is a horrible weeK, lol. But it is only at 4 games let us see when we are at game 30.

I will be back latter tonight with game 5.

[SupremeYankee]

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Unable to get in a 2nd game tonight, back on saturday with more stats as I have all weekend off. I do want to ask am I the only person having an issue with the speed variation on most pitches ? No matter what I have the pitch speed set too i keep swinging early or late, its never good. Im not getting alot of XBH and have only hit a handful of dingers since th game came out. i know its early and its a pretty big adjustment from 14 but jesus it just feels like on fastballs I have a split second to decide and then on anything else I feel like I could go grab a soda, come back take a nap, head to work, come home and decide to swing and still be early.

[Shadymamba]

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ok man just finished another game for testing for you so you can see how these are working out.... one thing I will point out I changed the OF/IF fielding errors to 3 instead of 5 I have seen too many easy grounders kicked around and today as with yesterday with polanco a ball popped up a can of corn just falls out of his glove...napoli at first kicked a two hopper around twice one a error the other they got the out...i can understand errors, but the way these happened the past couple of days are too much - maybe i'll try 4 instead of 3 next game and see how it plays but 5 was a little shaky just IMO.


Boston (cpu) Pitt (me)

pit: 4 12 1
bos: 3 9 1

Win: F Liriano
Loss: R. Ross
Sv: M. Melancon

Starting Pitching:

F Lirano: 5.0 IP, 5 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 1 BB, 7 K, 93 Pitches, 57 Strikes, 36 Balls, 61% Overall Strikes, 52% First Pitch Strikes

R Porcello: 4.0 IP, 8 H, 3 R, 3 ER, 1 BB, 0 K, 74 Pitches, 47 Strikes, 27 Balls, 64% Overall Strikes, 52% First Pitch Strikes

Team Pitching:

pit: 169 Pitches, 105 Strikes, 64 Balls, 62% Overall Strikes, 56% First Pitch Strikes
bos: 146 Pitches, 92 Strikes, 54 Balls, 63% Overall Strikes, 60% First Pitch Strikes

Team Strikeouts:

pit: 3
bos: 11

Team Walks:

pit: 2
bos: 3

Extra Base Hits:

pit: 4
2B: A lambo, J harrison, C hart
HR: J Harrison

bos: 3
2B: D pedroia, H ramirez, X Bogaerts

Well my final analysis - what i like about these sliders is they reward your patience at the plate and your ability to hit your spots....I had the bases loaded twice in this game because of patience and you can see the K's on my end went down from last game Porcello really struggled and Liriano wasnt much better, boston didnt show much patience with the changeup resulting in those 7ks overall the sliders played very well for realism purposes in this hitters park the hit numbers were around where i thought they would be...and fyi melancon had the bases loaded in the bottom of the ninth so it was anything but easy LOL.


A quick question about this classic pitching system as i said before i was a meter guy all my gaming with baseball games...do I hold the button and wait for the vibration or do i set an internal clock in my head when to let it go? for best results from you classic experts?

[Shadymamba]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

Unable to get in a 2nd game tonight, back on saturday with more stats as I have all weekend off. I do want to ask am I the only person having an issue with the speed variation on most pitches ? No matter what I have the pitch speed set too i keep swinging early or late, its never good. Im not getting alot of XBH and have only hit a handful of dingers since th game came out. i know its early and its a pretty big adjustment from 14 but jesus it just feels like on fastballs I have a split second to decide and then on anything else I feel like I could go grab a soda, come back take a nap, head to work, come home and decide to swing and still be early.

Yes i feel that way as well - but one time i did a replay after they said too early and i was right on time just under the ball. the FB does get on you if you are not looking for it per say - what i did different tonight that what i did yesterday was try and get into fastball hitter counts and just say ok i got this timing down and it worked...if you are behind in the count dont even bother i have seen so many wrinkles when i'm behind its crazy...so if you can get into a hitters count look fastball and hey if you get a hanging anything you may crush it as well...i havent' played since 13 so i'm still learning how to hit again as well a work in progress..good luck man

[itbeme23]

Re: Itbeme23 Sliders - Vet Hitting/A.S. Classic Pitching Emphasis on Accurate Strike

Slider Tests:

Human Control: 1
Human Consistency: 1

CPU Manager Hook: 3
CPU Reliever Stamina: 1
CPU Strike Frequency: 1

Outfielder Throwing Errors: 4

Game 9

LAD: 7 9 0
PIT: 5 10 2

Win: B. McCarthy - 5.1 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 2 BB, 3 K, 102 Pitches, 64 Strikes, 38 Balls, 63% Overall Strikes, 39% First Pitch Strikes
Loss: F. Liriano - 5 IP, 4 H, 3 R, 3 R, 3 BB, 3 K, 93 Pitches, 55 Strikes, 38 Balls, 59% Strikes, 57% First Pitch Strikes
Save: C. Hatcher

Team Pitching:

LAD: 176 Pitches, 111 Strikes, 65 Balls, 63% Overall Strikes, 54% First Pitch Strikes
PIT: 164 Pitches, 99 Strikes, 65 Balls, 60% Overall Strikes, 54% First Pitch Strikes

Team Strikeouts:

LAD: 8
PIT: 6

Team Walks:

LAD: 4
PIT: 4

Team Errors:

PIT: F. Liriano (Fielding), J. Harrison (Throwing)

Hiting:

LAD:
2B: J. Uribe, J. Pederson
HR: C. Crawford, J. Pederson
9 Hits/35 At-Bats = .257 BA

PIT:
2B: A. McCutchen, F. Cervelli
HR: T. Sanchez
10 Hits/36 At-Bats = .278 BA

Earlier today, I was a bit discouraged because the adjustments that I made during yesterday's test games didn't yield the results I was looking for at all. However, after this game, I'm cautiously optimistic that I may have found some things that will move things back in the right direction. Again, it's only one game, but I'm encouraged by the results.

1. Human Control/Consistency: 1/1

- I felt like Human pitching was, for lack of a better word, "easier" than in year's past. As I looked at the stats in my test games, as well as others in the thread, strike percentages seemed to be trending on the high side. Personally, I felt that they were too high. My concern with adjusting these two sliders was ending up in a tweak-fest. Even while I was playing this game, I was already thinking about different combinations to test afterward, because I didn't think I was getting the results I was looking for. I was definitely pleasantly surprised when I saw my pitching stats after the game. It's only one game, but 1/1 is definitely worth testing further for the next few games.

CPU Reliever Stamina: 1

- I'm still very much on the fence with this one. The CPU manager made a horrible bone-headed decision in this one. The Pirates middle reliever came in for his second inning of work, and proceded to load the bases with nobody out, and on top of that, he had already thrown 30 pitches....but Clint Hurdle left him in. This ended up leading to Carl Crawford hitting a grand-slam to break the game open (at that point), which ultimately was the difference in the game. Personally, I feel that this is directly related to the Manager Hook slider being at 3, but more testing will be needed to confirm that. I can't imagine any manager leaving a reliever in the game in that situation, especially a mediocre one at that.

Manager Hook: 3

- See explanation above. I will be moving it back to 4. That was about the dumbest decision I've ever seen a CPU manager make in this game to date.

CPU Strike Frequency: 1

- Everybody knows at this point that my goal is realistic strike percentages with this set. But in going along with that way of thinking, I also want to have a variety of counts favoring the hitter AND pitcher. I'm trying to create balance, and with Strike Frequency at 0, I was seeing too many hitter's counts, and not enough pitcher's counts. Raising Strike Frequency by one click made a hell of a difference, and I'll continue testing this further for the next few games.

Outfielder Throwing Errors: 4

- We've already talked about some of the poor throws from the outfielders to the cut-off men, which results in baserunners advancing. I felt like I had seen enough in testing, as well as from others in the thread, to warrant this small change. I didn't have any situations in this game, so I will be testing it further.

Keep in mind, if you are happy with the settings as they are in the original slider post, please feel free to keep them as-is. I am tweaking the set to my liking right now, and once I get enough of a sample size, I will update the original post. If anybody would like to help me test with the settings I'm currently using, let me know. When all is said and done, I will keep the original set posted, along with the updated one for anybody who would like to use it.

Getting ready for another test game. Last game of test series against Pittsburgh. Anderson vs. Burnett. Stats to follow.