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  • SpritePuck
    Rookie
    • May 2014
    • 408

    #421
    Re: Armor & Sword's MLB The Show 15 Timed (Directional)/Classic Simulation Sliders

    Originally posted by jb12780
    http://www.twitch.tv/jb12780

    Testing now.

    I didn't see any influence with the stick. Will do this again later.

    Sent from my LG-LS980 using Tapatalk
    Same here, if you go to practice pitching and take someone fairly accurate you can do whatever you want with the left stick after locking in and it seems to have no affect.

    I am not a great player but in pitching when you learn when to release (right before the vibration) the ball goes if aimed to the same spot fairly much there. Of course the players rating has an affect.

    I just threw 75 fastballs with Jon Lester (because I know whento release x with him, he taps the rubber right before the max pitch vibration) all were consitant regardless of left stick during windup. Then I threw 40 of his sweeping curves, they are less consistant of course but the location variation did not seem related to holding the left stick down and right. When holding it down and right sometimes he missed out of the zone to that area and other times it was someplace else.

    Last of all I threw 50 cutters and they consistently were within one or so squares of where I aimed them. The left stick had absolutely no affect on them. I throw the pitch often enough in franchise to know for sure. My typical way is to aim and as soon as motion starts release left stick. I tried aiming holding until releasing x and tried aiming and holding throughout the motion. Tried releasing with x then using left stick again. I always aimed low and away and the used left stick to try to go further low and away. In my opinion I hit the mark (excluding a few pitches I released late and overthrew) and they went random places not seeming to be affected by left stick.

    I could be wrong but this is what happened for me.

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    • Armor and Sword
      The Lama
      • Sep 2010
      • 21789

      #422
      Re: Armor & Sword's MLB The Show 15 Timed (Directional)/Classic Simulation Sliders

      Ok....that's enough.

      I already knew the left stick thing was pure fallacy.

      Please. Let's let that go. Let's get back to discussing the game itself and the sliders etc. Not placebo and theory on something that absolutely is false about classic pitching.

      This is not RBI baseball.

      Thanks to those that tested it, to again prove what I and Hero's already knew.
      Last edited by Armor and Sword; 04-30-2015, 06:59 AM.
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      • SpritePuck
        Rookie
        • May 2014
        • 408

        #423
        Re: Armor & Sword's MLB The Show 15 Timed (Directional)/Classic Simulation Sliders

        I know people here are better at this game than me. That said, I play a lot and only use classic pitching. I am not only a classic pitching person but study pitching in game and in real life. HUGE fan of mlb and the minor leagues and love watching pitching.

        Here is what I think is happening. Generally with sliders, cutters and sweeping curves when you overthrow them [hold x too long and feel the slight controller vibration (indicating max velocity) and especially long after vibration releases] they tend to OVER BREAK to the glove/break side. This affect could seem like you are influencing it with the stick but honestly I think it is placebo.*

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        • SpritePuck
          Rookie
          • May 2014
          • 408

          #424
          Re: Armor & Sword's MLB The Show 15 Timed (Directional)/Classic Simulation Sliders

          Originally posted by Armor and Sword
          Ok....that's enough.

          I already knew the left stick thing was pure fallacy.

          Please. Let's let that go. Let's get back to discussing the game itself and the sliders etc. Not placebo an theory on something that absolutely is false about classic pitching.

          This is not RBI baseball.

          Thanks to those that tested it, to again prove what I and Hero's already knew.
          Sorry Armor for last comment had not seen this.
          Thanks for your great work.

          Question are sliders on page one the most updated version?

          Thanks again!

          Also can I post a huge tip about classic pitching?

          I am sure you are aware but some less experienced players may not be. It is not in my opinion a placebo thing nor a gimmic but related to actual baseball which makes it work in the game. I was amazed when I realised how real The Show is. Absolutely amazed.

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          • Heroesandvillains
            MVP
            • May 2009
            • 5974

            #425
            Re: Armor & Sword's MLB The Show 15 Timed (Directional)/Classic Simulation Sliders

            Here you go, fellas.

            http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2047268075

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            • Hanoble
              Rookie
              • Oct 2012
              • 57

              #426
              Re: Armor & Sword's MLB The Show 15 Timed (Directional)/Classic Simulation Sliders

              Sorry for any sidetracking with the previous discussion, that was not my intention. Anyway, I am 100 games in and sliders are looking great. Stealing was a bit out of hand for me, but then I saw that Armor does not lead or jump with steals and since using that method it is better. Still honestly could be a bit high, but need more games before I would change anything.

              The only other real thing I am experiencing is a lack of HRs. I am second in triples and 8th in doubles with the Brewer's (who according to the Show ratings are one of the top 3 hitting teams), but I am second to last in HRs. When I do get them they seem to come in bunches, but then I can go games without a HR. With other people also experiencing power issues, I am curious as to where people with 50+ games in a season are sitting rankings wise. Could just be an off year, I do flat out smoke a handful of balls a game, but it just seems that extra base hits are favored over flat out HRs for me.

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              • SpritePuck
                Rookie
                • May 2014
                • 408

                #427
                Re: Armor & Sword's MLB The Show 15 Timed (Directional)/Classic Simulation Sliders

                Originally posted by Hanoble
                Sorry for any sidetracking with the previous discussion, that was not my intention. Anyway, I am 100 games in and sliders are looking great. Stealing was a bit out of hand for me, but then I saw that Armor does not lead or jump with steals and since using that method it is better. Still honestly could be a bit high, but need more games before I would change anything.

                The only other real thing I am experiencing is a lack of HRs. I am second in triples and 8th in doubles with the Brewer's (who according to the Show ratings are one of the top 3 hitting teams), but I am second to last in HRs. When I do get them they seem to come in bunches, but then I can go games without a HR. With other people also experiencing power issues, I am curious as to where people with 50+ games in a season are sitting rankings wise. Could just be an off year, I do flat out smoke a handful of balls a game, but it just seems that extra base hits are favored over flat out HRs for me.
                My Cubs sit 19th in homers after 87 games. Two things I never swing with power swing and well my lineup does not have the power hitters that say the Brew Crew has. Thus I am satisfied.

                They are sixth in doubles which seems kinda high but Fowler is having an unreal season 8th in avg and leads the MLB in them. Also both my catchers Castillo and Montero hit to the gap and so does Rizzo and Castro. The issue is Wrigley is definately not a doubles yard! Though I always try to hit to the gap usually opposite one because I do feel I am pitched away to more than in. We probably should have a few more homers and less doubles. It is kinda hard to say as I approach each at bat by the book, like a hitting coach, regardless of batter we are trying to raise the pitch count move runners and get on base. We want to hit to the gaps, draw walks and line drive up the middle. Vs. in real life a hitter sometimes goes up there and tries to make big plays.

                Mickey once said it best, "Some guys claim they just want to make good contact and put the ball in play. Sure, but if you ask me if I ever try to hit a homerun the answer is: only every time I go to the plate."
                Was Mickey a rare bread, just more honest or kidding about? Probably a little of all three...

                Just my opinion but batters rated with higher contact and mid power are easier to go yard with than outright power guys. (Not talking about the Superstars like Trout, Miggy [though oddly I can not hit with Cabrera at all :'( ] or Stanton) Maybe this is cause I swing with X and O only though. Also, am trying hit to opposite gap. But I believe in a season I will hit more homers with an 80 contact 70 power rated player than a 70 contact 80 power player. Not sure this is slider related, game programing or most likely just how I hit and play.

                My tripples numbers are Blah but I do not ever make outs going to third from second because again fundamentals! It is not individuals and third base coaches getting excited. It is pure and simple baseball by the books and most likely we miss out on some tripples but have in 87 games only been thrown out going into third (excluding forces) only six times. Low risk comes with low reward but maybe a couple extra wins and a playoff appearance.
                Last edited by SpritePuck; 04-29-2015, 11:56 PM.

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                • Armor and Sword
                  The Lama
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 21789

                  #428
                  Re: Armor & Sword's MLB The Show 15 Timed (Directional)/Classic Simulation Sliders

                  Originally posted by SpritePuck
                  Sorry Armor for last comment had not seen this.
                  Thanks for your great work.

                  Question are sliders on page one the most updated version?

                  Thanks again!

                  Also can I post a huge tip about classic pitching?

                  I am sure you are aware but some less experienced players may not be. It is not in my opinion a placebo thing nor a gimmic but related to actual baseball which makes it work in the game. I was amazed when I realised how real The Show is. Absolutely amazed.

                  No worries man. This thread is anyone to post tips and insightful information about our beloved game. Have at it. And yes page one is the most recent settings.
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                  • hunterdawgs10
                    Rookie
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 214

                    #429
                    Re: Armor & Sword's MLB The Show 15 Timed (Directional)/Classic Simulation Sliders

                    Anybody been straight up bombed?

                    I play dynamic and went from AS+ to Veteran plus in 2 games, gave up 17 and 16 runs in consecutive games. I literally couldn't get the cpu out, either I'd try to hit a corner and it would be a ball, or I'd have to give in and they would drill it. Such a helpless feeling!!

                    Very realistic IMO, sometimes you can't do anything right pitching and I'm glad that gets reflected.

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                    • Dillion245
                      Rookie
                      • Jul 2013
                      • 80

                      #430
                      Re: Armor & Sword's MLB The Show 15 Timed (Directional)/Classic Simulation Sliders

                      I am loving the sliders and just wanted to say thank you for your hard work! I play as the Red Sox and I am having a bit of trouble hitting the ball where the fielders are not. I am ranked 18th in BB so I feel like I work the count a good amount, however my team ranks 29th with a .178 AVG. I followed the first page All Start sliders to a T and I only use X when swinging. Any tips? Should I move up human contact? Or will this even out as the season goes on?

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                      • RoyceDa59
                        Chillin
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 3830

                        #431
                        Re: Armor & Sword's MLB The Show 15 Timed (Directional)/Classic Simulation Sliders

                        Originally posted by hunterdawgs10
                        Anybody been straight up bombed?

                        I play dynamic and went from AS+ to Veteran plus in 2 games, gave up 17 and 16 runs in consecutive games. I literally couldn't get the cpu out, either I'd try to hit a corner and it would be a ball, or I'd have to give in and they would drill it. Such a helpless feeling!!

                        Very realistic IMO, sometimes you can't do anything right pitching and I'm glad that gets reflected.
                        Yeah just recently had a game like this against the Marlins they put up 8 in the first inning on me, it started once I walked Dee Gordon and proceeded to lay the hurt. Final score was 12-2 I felt real hopeless in this game as they were spraying the ball all over the field, it was ridiculous.

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                        • SpritePuck
                          Rookie
                          • May 2014
                          • 408

                          #432
                          Re: Armor & Sword's MLB The Show 15 Timed (Directional)/Classic Simulation Sliders

                          Originally posted by Dillion245
                          I am loving the sliders and just wanted to say thank you for your hard work! I play as the Red Sox and I am having a bit of trouble hitting the ball where the fielders are not. I am ranked 18th in BB so I feel like I work the count a good amount, however my team ranks 29th with a .178 AVG. I followed the first page All Start sliders to a T and I only use X when swinging. Any tips? Should I move up human contact? Or will this even out as the season goes on?
                          How many games in are you?

                          I ask cause if like 40 games in then ummm I would change something. The Sox have a decent hitting squad and should do better than .200 obviously.

                          If early in I would see if it levels out. My reasoning is your schedule. You all opened with Philly and then played the Yanks, then had a home stand against the Nats. All three clubs have good pitching! The Yankees are the lowest rated staff of the three but they are a rival team and you played them in the Bronx. And their ace is hell to hit in the game that dumb pause in his delivery makes me want to trade for him and place him in my single A squad just so I never face him again.

                          To recap, Phillies in Philly, Yanks in the Bronx, then at Fenway for Nats, and then O's. Seriously man you just faced a few possible CY Young guys, a former World Series MVP, and if a little further in travelled to the Rays, O's on the road and then on to Toronto to have Knucklers thrown at you! Dickey I think if memory serves would have pitched game two of that series and Buerhle is no chump! Basically April is a rough month for the Boys from Bean town. Plus your guys are fatigued as you only have two off days, not counting the one after the opener. Someone in the Commissioners office is a Yanks fan I think and had a good laugh at the Sox's early schedule.

                          I play as the Cubs because they are young and I want to beat that goat But in real life am a huge Sox fan and watch every single game. Kinda obsessive I can not eat and cry a lot if I miss one. So, far this year have seen them all

                          But whatever Armor suggests go with! Just my opnion to see if you get on a hitting streak and it comes up. Plus, you may get better at hitting as the year goes on. And at least you are not in the Nats division cause that staff is a stat killer.

                          It was once said, "His mitt (Willie Mays) is where doubles go to die."
                          Washington is then surely where batting averages go to die.

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                          • Armor and Sword
                            The Lama
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 21789

                            #433
                            Re: Armor & Sword's MLB The Show 15 Timed (Directional)/Classic Simulation Sliders

                            Originally posted by Dillion245
                            I am loving the sliders and just wanted to say thank you for your hard work! I play as the Red Sox and I am having a bit of trouble hitting the ball where the fielders are not. I am ranked 18th in BB so I feel like I work the count a good amount, however my team ranks 29th with a .178 AVG. I followed the first page All Start sliders to a T and I only use X when swinging. Any tips? Should I move up human contact? Or will this even out as the season goes on?
                            Sprite gave a great reply....and I concur.

                            If after 40 games this is the case. I would try the hybrid set (Veteran Hitting/All Star Pitching). That typically cures the hitting woes without your team becoming Babe Ruth 1-9. If you want to stick with All-Star up human contact to 6 and human timing to 6 leave power at 5.

                            Also.....very improtant question. What pitch speed are you playing with? I had been playing on 3...but moved back to default 5 after I got my bearings back (plus I am playing online a ton and my leagues play at 5 and 6 respectively) so I got used to it.

                            If your playing pitch speed at default 5 the very first thing I would do before trying anything else is lower it to 3 and go from there.
                            Last edited by Armor and Sword; 04-30-2015, 01:43 PM.
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                            • jb12780
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 10665

                              #434
                              Re: Armor & Sword's MLB The Show 15 Timed (Directional)/Classic Simulation Sliders

                              Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                              Sprite gave a great reply....and I concur.

                              If after 40 games this is the case. I would try the hybrid set (Veteran Hitting/All Star Pitching). That typically cures the hitting woes without your team becoming Babe Ruth 1-9. If you want to stick with All-Star up human contact to 6 and human timing to 6 leave power at 5.

                              Also.....very improtant question. What pitch speed are you playing with? I had been playing on 3...but moved back to default 5 after I got my bearings back (plus I am playing online a ton and my leagues play at 5 and 6 respectively) so I got used to it.

                              If your playing pitch speed at default 5 the very first thing I would do before trying anything else is lower it to 3 and go from there.
                              Believe it or not I moved pitch speed up to 6. Wanted it to be equal with the speed in the Vets league so my timing isn't thrown off.
                              Last edited by jb12780; 04-30-2015, 02:29 PM.
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                              • Dillion245
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2013
                                • 80

                                #435
                                Re: Armor & Sword's MLB The Show 15 Timed (Directional)/Classic Simulation Sliders

                                Originally posted by Armor and Sword
                                Sprite gave a great reply....and I concur.

                                If after 40 games this is the case. I would try the hybrid set (Veteran Hitting/All Star Pitching). That typically cures the hitting woes without your team becoming Babe Ruth 1-9. If you want to stick with All-Star up human contact to 6 and human timing to 6 leave power at 5.

                                Also.....very improtant question. What pitch speed are you playing with? I had been playing on 3...but moved back to default 5 after I got my bearings back (plus I am playing online a ton and my leagues play at 5 and 6 respectively) so I got used to it.

                                If your playing pitch speed at default 5 the very first thing I would do before trying anything else is lower it to 3 and go from there.
                                Yeah, I am still in April and I am starting to slowly see the bats open up, and completely agree the start of the season is rough. Heck, I almost contemplated simming the Nationals series due to fear of facing that rotation. But to answer your question I am playing at 6 speed currently and I seem to get plenty of GOOD contact when it comes to the off speed stuff and GOOD to LATE on the fastballs, so I think my timing seems fine. It just seems to be the ratings of the pitchers really is playing a huge part, which is fantastic. Thank you guys for the constructive feedback!

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