Armor & Sword & Marino's MLB The Show 17 Timed/Classic Simulation All-Star Sliders

**audbal** · 05-05-2017, 06:30 PM

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These are playing great! Question, is anyone experiencing jumbled lineups in daily roster play? My dodgers lineup has kenley jansen leading off and playing 2b, Adrian Gonzalez behind the plate, ect. Just curious.

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**knich** · 05-05-2017, 08:26 PM

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Originally posted by Armor and Sword

Yes Power swing is used selectively in 3-0, 3-1 or 0-0 counts with true big boppers and situation dictates using that one.

Most of my big flys are with the X button and a rare HR with contact does happen from time to time.

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Yep..Schwarber hit a 400+ bomb with contact swing. Funny thing is he had been really struggling at the plate like IRL. So I decided to try get hit in any way I could and chose contact swing on 2-0 pitch and the rest they say is history...

Originally posted by audbal

These are playing great! Question, is anyone experiencing jumbled lineups in daily roster play? My dodgers lineup has kenley jansen leading off and playing 2b, Adrian Gonzalez behind the plate, ect. Just curious.

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Should work fine if you are controlling lineups. Mine are fine even when I choose auto when injury screen pops up. CPU replaces player in lineup and then replaces starter once injury resolved.

**The Chef** · 05-05-2017, 10:13 PM

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Figured I'd toss my player stats for the month of April in here just for comparison purposes as I've been using your sliders since day 1. The only changes I've made was wind down to 3 and CPU Pitch Control up to 5 but that was done 2 games ago so it wouldn't have effected much....

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Other then the issues I've already mentioned the game is playing a pretty solid game of baseball so not a lot of complaints at all.

**Gagnon39** · 05-06-2017, 09:07 AM

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Seems that there's some others that are seeing a little too much power. I'm 62 games into my franchise and the NL home run leaders are Schwarber (26), Rizzo (20), Bryant (15). I don't want to lower power because I already don't hit enough doubles.

This is definitely the longest I've suffered from slideritis.

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**Ed21** · 05-06-2017, 10:53 AM

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I've bit the bullet and dropped my power slider to 3. I was still seeing quite a few User HR's at 4 so I've gone even further down. I want to celebrate homers, not feel annoyed because that's the 4th of the game.

I would rather not hit enough and really enjoy the ones I do hit as opposed to hitting too many and not enjoying it. I'm still seeing plenty of doubles as well so that's not an issue.

**JHedges2** · 05-06-2017, 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by Gagnon39

I'm 62 games into my franchise

Where you at on your Cubs Franchise Site on Dynasty Nation?

**JoshC1977** · 05-06-2017, 11:56 AM

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For those of you having "too much power", why not just try raising the two pitch speed sliders a click? One thing I noticed is that at the pitch speed settings I am using (which, ironically, are actually lower than Armor's - slower reflexes...ha!) is that I can't consistently turn on every fastball. As a result, some hits are pulled, some the other way, others up the middle...and I am not having any issues at all with seeing too many HRs. A small tweak to the pitch speed sliders might be enough to just get your swing timing more variable (plus, more difficulty in reading pitches)....the advantage to this is that it really doesn't change the core slider set...

**The Chef** · 05-06-2017, 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by JHedges2

Where you at on your Cubs Franchise Site on Dynasty Nation?

Thats an awesome looking website, wish I had the ability to throw something together like that but alas my skills in that area are non existant.

**The Chef** · 05-06-2017, 12:36 PM

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Curios question for those that have played this game a ton, and I fully understand there may be no definitive answer to it but I have to ask. The issue with the CPU grooving pitches so frequently, do you think its because of control and they're just missing their spots or because the CPU is simply trying to get one over in that situation due to pitch count potentially? I can't figure it out, I've got control and consistency at default and still see too many for my liking but I'm not sure if it's even an issue with control or not vs the CPU's strategy to just get one over at that time. I know this is probably impossible to know since we don't know where the CPU Pitcher was intending for the pitch to go but figured I'd ask in case someone had an idea after extensive testing of sliders.

**Fcshuckers73** · 05-06-2017, 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by The Chef

Curios question for those that have played this game a ton, and I fully understand there may be no definitive answer to it but I have to ask. The issue with the CPU grooving pitches so frequently, do you think its because of control and they're just missing their spots or because the CPU is simply trying to get one over in that situation due to pitch count potentially? I can't figure it out, I've got control and consistency at default and still see too many for my liking but I'm not sure if it's even an issue with control or not vs the CPU's strategy to just get one over at that time. I know this is probably impossible to know since we don't know where the CPU Pitcher was intending for the pitch to go but figured I'd ask in case someone had an idea after extensive testing of sliders.

K frequency is the CPUs intelligence....control at 5 is the way to go so they miss when they want...5,3,5 is the way to go

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**markoaflores** · 05-06-2017, 12:47 PM

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I completed two series, vs yanks and Jays my record is 2-5, with classic pitching, saw homers but also line doubles, singles wild pitches, fun stuff.

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**The Chef** · 05-06-2017, 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by Fcshuckers73

K frequency is the CPUs intelligence....control at 5 is the way to go so they miss when they want...5,3,5 is the way to go

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I know you really like the 5-3-5 setup but I have hesitation in lowering the consistency slider down and seeing more wild pitches and beaned batters then I'm already seeing as it is. The CPU is already throwing wild pitches 2x more then MLB averages so it's a little worrisome to think they would throw even more with consistency at 3. I could see strike frequency needing to be raised if the CPU was constantly behind and that was the reason for the pitches being grooved so frequently but the CPU's strike:ball ratio is solid, first pitch strike percentages are solid so I don't believe the grooved pitches are a by product of being behind in too many counts thus them grooving it. Maybe I'll give it a shot down the line sometime, I'd rather raise control & consistency first to see if that helps as if it does then it's clearly an issue with the CPU Pitcher merely missing his mark and not intentional.

**markoaflores** · 05-06-2017, 12:51 PM

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Originally posted by The Chef

I know you really like the 5-3-5 setup but I have hesitation in lowering the consistency slider down and seeing more wild pitches and beaned batters then I'm already seeing as it is. The CPU is already throwing wild pitches 2x more then MLB averages so it's a little worrisome to think they would throw even more with consistency at 3. I could see strike frequency needing to be raised if the CPU was constantly behind and that was the reason for the pitches being grooved so frequently but the CPU's strike:ball ratio is solid, first pitch strike percentages are solid so I don't believe the grooved pitches are a by product of being behind in too many counts thus them grooving it. Maybe I'll give it a shot down the line sometime, I'd rather raise control & consistency first to see if that helps as if it does then it's clearly an issue with the CPU Pitcher merely missing his mark and not intentional.

Maybe play with quick counts?

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**Fcshuckers73** · 05-06-2017, 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by The Chef

I know you really like the 5-3-5 setup but I have hesitation in lowering the consistency slider down and seeing more wild pitches and beaned batters then I'm already seeing as it is. The CPU is already throwing wild pitches 2x more then MLB averages so it's a little worrisome to think they would throw even more with consistency at 3. I could see strike frequency needing to be raised if the CPU was constantly behind and that was the reason for the pitches being grooved so frequently but the CPU's strike:ball ratio is solid, first pitch strike percentages are solid so I don't believe the grooved pitches are a by product of being behind in too many counts thus them grooving it. Maybe I'll give it a shot down the line sometime, I'd rather raise control & consistency first to see if that helps as if it does then it's clearly an issue with the CPU Pitcher merely missing his mark and not intentional.

Strike Frequency by definition is the CPUs strategy as well as early count pitches. Complaining about pitches left in the middle of the plate but neutering their intelligence seems counterproductive...like ur having issues but not wanting to fix it. Same with the doubles issue u have...lower fielder speed and u will see more doubles. Try the fixes man.

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**NewNapkin** · 05-06-2017, 12:54 PM

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I haven't played much with it yet, but so far I endorse the bump to HoF. Hitting wise, I could still be very effective, but it felt so much more exciting to groove one. I actually went back-to-back-to-back-to-back with Schwarber, Bryant, Rizzo, and Zobrist... and it still didn't feel overkill. I faced Chris Sale before and after the switch and while he was solid on All-Star, it felt like I was actually facing Chris Sale on Hall of Fame, extremely nasty change-up and all. Pitching wise, it was definitely more difficult, especially for lower-rated guys, but you can still dominate with your ace.

Highly recommend so far.

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