Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

[Mike Lowe]

Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

I have a question about using these in quick manage mode. Should I have the sliders set for sim or game play when i do a quick manage game?

Thanks!

Can you adjust midway? You may want to experiment. Perhaps default will help?

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[Charvalos]

Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

The pitch meter is so frustrating sometimes.

I don't know how it was last year but I feel like, this year, it's a little broken. If I miss the yellow line too low or too high, it's ok but I can't understand why when I just barley miss this line, the ball can go far away from I aimed.

[Mike Lowe]

Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

The pitch meter is so frustrating sometimes.

I don't know how it was last year but I feel like, this year, it's a little broken. If I miss the yellow line too low or too high, it's ok but I can't understand why when I just barley miss this line, the ball can go far away from I aimed.

I actually don't mind it. I'm seeing more walks, albeit still not enough. That is just how the game is though--very easy to always throw strikes.

However, this year w guys who don't have decent control, wow be very careful.

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[TannerYoho]

Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

Been using the sliders since pretty much first day they were put on OS, love them. Although I'm going to continue to lower injuries a bit, I wish we had a injury severity slider, I think 2k has one, because i just had Josh Harrison, Austin Meadows, Starling Marte, and Ivan Nova with 2-3 month injuries in the same weekend.

I know this isn't slider related but man am I struggling at the dish, Swinging at awful pitches for some reason every swing I move the left stick down, I'll see the pitch, want to swing, and miss low or pop it up because how bad I've gotten at using zone, I use to crush the ball constantly!

Either way as I said awesome work on the sliders, im soon going to start a franchise with OSFM Hybrid rosters, and will see if they work well there with the ratings being almost totally different.

[NolanRyansSnowmonkey]

Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

Don't mess w consistency. I'd drop accuracy before anything else.

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OK i jumped the gun on worrying about too many CPU strikes on Legend hitting. I knew I was jumping the gun when I wrote the post, too. Can't tell anything by that sample size and i knew better. It was just shocking over 2 games to see that many strikes.

So I didnt touch the sliders at all and let it ride for 17 games. Strike % is perfect at 62%.


Only thing now is that the CPU First strike % is around 54%. Thats really not too awfully far off from the 59 or 60% it should be. I can live with it, but do you think any adjustment could bring that up a notch?

Would strike frequency be the one to try? I don't want to throw the overall % off.

Seems like when the CPU does throw a first pitch strike, the next pitch is rarely a strike.

I'm super happy with the CPU pitching %'s though. Even if it stays where it is.

[bryanm1982]

Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

I have always done Classic pitching but I'm kinda getting intrigued by the Meter Pitching. But I always felt that the Classic pitching showed more of the ratings from the player and not so much myself. Do you still get that in Meter pitching? Like do you still feel the difference even if you do hit your mark? When you miss the meter mark on the pitch with a #5 starter do you miss more than you do with a Ace?

[NolanRyansSnowmonkey]

Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

Been using the sliders since pretty much first day they were put on OS, love them. Although I'm going to continue to lower injuries a bit, I wish we had a injury severity slider, I think 2k has one, because i just had Josh Harrison, Austin Meadows, Starling Marte, and Ivan Nova with 2-3 month injuries in the same weekend.

I know this isn't slider related but man am I struggling at the dish, Swinging at awful pitches for some reason every swing I move the left stick down, I'll see the pitch, want to swing, and miss low or pop it up because how bad I've gotten at using zone, I use to crush the ball constantly!

Either way as I said awesome work on the sliders, im soon going to start a franchise with OSFM Hybrid rosters, and will see if they work well there with the ratings being almost totally different.

I think we've all dealt with this at the plate. I know i have. I have the same tendency to yank the pci down which induces lots of air outs. And I used to waste many games chasing pitches. I still fall into this when I get tired or impatient or start a game too late lol.

I'm very disciplined now using zone. My approach works perfectly with Mr. Lowe's CPU pitching sliders because ball/strike ratios are almost dead on. This gets me close to the right mlb % for swings. I thought I would share what I've done so i play more realistically...

I know other players who use a similar approach. Here's how I do it.

I stopped moving the PCI. (Much). I dont mean i take my thumb off and leave it in the middle. I pick a quadrant of the strike zone, such as upper away. I move my PCI there before the pitch and hold it there. Part of my pci still covers the middle of the plate. So I dont miss those. And I leave it there (for now).

On the first pitch of an AB, I want that pitch to hit the dot in the middle of the pci, or be down the middle of the plate. And usually a fastball. If its not, I'm taking it. I dont care how good the strike looks. (That gets me at 70% takes on first pitch which is league average) (if the pitch is down the middle of the plate all i have to do is let go of the stick if i want. Don't yank it.)

On early counts, 1-0, 0-1, 1-1, and 2-1 i want a pitch in my quadrant (or at least that half of the plate) and lay off anything inside. And I usually lay off breaking pitches here. Unless it's a super fat hanger.

Hitters counts, 2-0, 3-1. My pci goes close to dead center. And again they need to hit the DOT in the middle of my pci. ANYTHING else, I take. (Dont worry- you'll be fooled enough here.) LOTS of walks dont happen here because people chase ball 4. Or let the pitcher back get to 2-1, instead of 3-0.

3-0. I dont swing. If i do it better be down the middle and on the pci dot, and only with the occasional exceptions of only a select 2 or 3 players on my team in the right situations.

2 strike counts, my pci goes near center also. But now it's so i can move it anywhere to protect the plate. I know that they're probably going to try to make me chase a couple, if they're ahead in the count. So I'm ready to lay off sliders off the plate and low change ups. If i strike out looking occasionally its ok. The game could use a few more user K's anyway.

Im not afraid to go down looking on 3-2 either. But im also ready to protect.

Basically- on 0-0, 2-0, 3-1 my pci barely moves, if at all. Hit the dot.
Anything less than 2 strikes- im picking a quadrant (or half, if the player has a big pci) and i want the pitcher to throw it "through my hoop (pci)" for me to swing.
2 Strikes - protect.

This is my basic approach. Game situations and specific players may call for something else. But 95% of the time this is my approach.

I dont yank the pci down nearly as often as I used to because of this approach. But i still do it on 2 strike counts more than I would like.

I've also started moving my pci higher than normal before the pitch. The game creates a lot of fly balls and this gets me a little closer to the right GB rate. Seems awkward at first but it seems to work. But not necessary.

This approach works for me. In fact I LOVE this approach. Its the closest to real baseball to me. And I get great results. A greater percentage of pitches i swing at are Hittable "hitters pitches" which increases my batting average, and I get more walks (over 3 a game).

I dont mind taking a lot of called strikes. Its ok. I probably should take even more. Looking at MLB stats, there are quite a bit more called strikes than swinging strikes. (But more swinging strikeouts than called strikeouts) Its easy to be swing happy on the Show. Which leads to people having to drop a level or adjust sliders to compensate.

This does take patience. And some in-game practice. And discipline. And more patience. Not for arcade players, or super fast games.

I still make a lot of mistakes and chase pitches that make me hit myself in the head. But this approach reduces those significantly, to a more realistic, MLB type level for me.

I dont have a PCI displayed anymore, because I like a clean screen. But i played with it long enough I can still "see" it in my mind.

"But what if the pitcher never throws it where my pci is?" I tip my hat. Then i adjust to his tendencies. But i don't assume. I need to see plenty of evidence first.

Just thought I would share. Maybe it'll help you or someone else out in Show-land.

[RoyceDa59]

Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

Just want to say these sliders have been great for my RttS Mike, thanks for this.

[rossaroni]

Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

I think we've all dealt with this at the plate. I know i have. I have the same tendency to yank the pci down which induces lots of air outs. And I used to waste many games chasing pitches. I still fall into this when I get tired or impatient or start a game too late lol.

I'm very disciplined now using zone. My approach works perfectly with Mr. Lowe's CPU pitching sliders because ball/strike ratios are almost dead on. This gets me close to the right mlb % for swings. I thought I would share what I've done so i play more realistically...

I know other players who use a similar approach. Here's how I do it.

I stopped moving the PCI. (Much). I dont mean i take my thumb off and leave it in the middle. I pick a quadrant of the strike zone, such as upper away. I move my PCI there before the pitch and hold it there. Part of my pci still covers the middle of the plate. So I dont miss those. And I leave it there (for now).

On the first pitch of an AB, I want that pitch to hit the dot in the middle of the pci, or be down the middle of the plate. And usually a fastball. If its not, I'm taking it. I dont care how good the strike looks. (That gets me at 70% takes on first pitch which is league average) (if the pitch is down the middle of the plate all you have to do is let go of the stick if you want. Don't yank it.)

On early counts, 1-0, 0-1, 1-1, and 2-1 i want a pitch in my quadrant (or at least that half of the plate) and lay off anything inside. And I usually lay off breaking pitches here. Unless it's a super fat hanger.

Hitters counts, 2-0, 3-1. My pci goes close to dead center. And again they need to hit the DOT in the middle of my pci. ANYTHING else, I take. (Dont worry- you'll be fooled enough here.) LOTS of walks dont happen here because people chase ball 4. Or let the pitcher back get to 2-1, instead of 3-0.

3-0. I dont swing. If i do it better be down the middle and on the pci dot, and only with the occasional exceptions of only a select 2 or 3 players on my team in the right situations.

2 strike counts, my pci goes near center also. But now it's so i can move it anywhere to protect the plate. Know that they're probably going to try to make you chase a couple of they're ahead in the count. So be ready to lay off sliders off the plate and low change ups. If i strike out looking occasionally its ok. The game could use a few more user K's anyway.

Im not afraid to go down looking on 3-2 either. But im also ready to protect.

Basically- on 0-0, 2-0, 3-1 my pci barely moves if it all. Hit the dot.
Anything less than 2 strikes- im picking a quadrant (or half, if the player has a big pci) and i want the pitcher to throw it "through my hoop (pci)" for me to swing.
2 Strikes - protect.

This is my basic approach. Game situations and specific players may call for something else. But 95% of the time this is my approach.

I dont yank the pci down nearly as often as I used to because of this approach. But i still do it on 2 strike counts more than I would like.

I've also started moving my pci higher than normal before the pitch. The game creates a lot of fly balls and this gets me a little closer to the right GB rate. Seems awkward at first but it seems to work. But not necessary.

This approach works for me. In fact I LOVE this approach. Its the closest to real baseball to me. And I get great results. A greater percentage of pitches i swing at are Hittable "hitters pitches" which increases my batting average, and I get more walks (over 3 a game).

Im not worried about taking a lot of called strikes. Looking at MLB stats, there are quite a bit more called strikes that swinging strikes. (But more swinging strikeouts than called) Its easy to be swing happy on the Show. Which leads to people having to drop a level or adjust sliders to compensate.

This does take patience. And some in-game practice. And discipline. And more patience. Not for arcade players, or super fast games.

I still make a lot of mistakes and chase pitches that make me hit myself in the head. But this approach reduces those significantly, to a more realistic, MLB type level for me.

I dont have a PCI displayed anymore, because I like a clean screen. But i played with it long enough I can still "see" it in my mind.

"But what if the pitcher never throws it where my pci is?" I tip my hat. Then i adjust to his tendencies. But i don't assume. I need to see plenty of evidence first.

Just thought I would share. Maybe it'll help you or someone else out in Show-land.

Do you always use a normal swing, or do you also use power and contact as well?

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[NolanRyansSnowmonkey]

Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

Do you always use a normal swing, or do you also use power and contact as well?

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Always normal. Strikeouts are low anyway, even with normal swing. So I dont see any reason to use contact swing.

[TannerYoho]

Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

I think we've all dealt with this at the plate. I know i have. I have the same tendency to yank the pci down which induces lots of air outs. And I used to waste many games chasing pitches. I still fall into this when I get tired or impatient or start a game too late lol.

I'm very disciplined now using zone. My approach works perfectly with Mr. Lowe's CPU pitching sliders because ball/strike ratios are almost dead on. This gets me close to the right mlb % for swings. I thought I would share what I've done so i play more realistically...

I know other players who use a similar approach. Here's how I do it.

I stopped moving the PCI. (Much). I dont mean i take my thumb off and leave it in the middle. I pick a quadrant of the strike zone, such as upper away. I move my PCI there before the pitch and hold it there. Part of my pci still covers the middle of the plate. So I dont miss those. And I leave it there (for now).

On the first pitch of an AB, I want that pitch to hit the dot in the middle of the pci, or be down the middle of the plate. And usually a fastball. If its not, I'm taking it. I dont care how good the strike looks. (That gets me at 70% takes on first pitch which is league average) (if the pitch is down the middle of the plate all i have to do is let go of the stick if i want. Don't yank it.)

On early counts, 1-0, 0-1, 1-1, and 2-1 i want a pitch in my quadrant (or at least that half of the plate) and lay off anything inside. And I usually lay off breaking pitches here. Unless it's a super fat hanger.

Hitters counts, 2-0, 3-1. My pci goes close to dead center. And again they need to hit the DOT in the middle of my pci. ANYTHING else, I take. (Dont worry- you'll be fooled enough here.) LOTS of walks dont happen here because people chase ball 4. Or let the pitcher back get to 2-1, instead of 3-0.

3-0. I dont swing. If i do it better be down the middle and on the pci dot, and only with the occasional exceptions of only a select 2 or 3 players on my team in the right situations.

2 strike counts, my pci goes near center also. But now it's so i can move it anywhere to protect the plate. I know that they're probably going to try to make me chase a couple, if they're ahead in the count. So I'm ready to lay off sliders off the plate and low change ups. If i strike out looking occasionally its ok. The game could use a few more user K's anyway.

Im not afraid to go down looking on 3-2 either. But im also ready to protect.

Basically- on 0-0, 2-0, 3-1 my pci barely moves, if at all. Hit the dot.
Anything less than 2 strikes- im picking a quadrant (or half, if the player has a big pci) and i want the pitcher to throw it "through my hoop (pci)" for me to swing.
2 Strikes - protect.

This is my basic approach. Game situations and specific players may call for something else. But 95% of the time this is my approach.

I dont yank the pci down nearly as often as I used to because of this approach. But i still do it on 2 strike counts more than I would like.

I've also started moving my pci higher than normal before the pitch. The game creates a lot of fly balls and this gets me a little closer to the right GB rate. Seems awkward at first but it seems to work. But not necessary.

This approach works for me. In fact I LOVE this approach. Its the closest to real baseball to me. And I get great results. A greater percentage of pitches i swing at are Hittable "hitters pitches" which increases my batting average, and I get more walks (over 3 a game).

Im not worried about taking a lot of called strikes. Looking at MLB stats, there are quite a bit more called strikes that swinging strikes. (But more swinging strikeouts than called) Its easy to be swing happy on the Show. Which leads to people having to drop a level or adjust sliders to compensate.

This does take patience. And some in-game practice. And discipline. And more patience. Not for arcade players, or super fast games.

I still make a lot of mistakes and chase pitches that make me hit myself in the head. But this approach reduces those significantly, to a more realistic, MLB type level for me.

I dont have a PCI displayed anymore, because I like a clean screen. But i played with it long enough I can still "see" it in my mind.

"But what if the pitcher never throws it where my pci is?" I tip my hat. Then i adjust to his tendencies. But i don't assume. I need to see plenty of evidence first.

Just thought I would share. Maybe it'll help you or someone else out in Show-land.

Definitely going to be using the tips man. Nothing more frustrating then getting a great pitch to hit and popping it up! Appreciate the help!



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[NolanRyansSnowmonkey]

Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

Definitely going to be using the tips man. Nothing more frustrating then getting a great pitch to hit and popping it up! Appreciate the help!



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Hope it helps. These are great sliders to do it with.

I would just say stick with it for a little while. It's not hard but I think people get impatient. I shared this with a friend last year, he tried it a few games, and said it's not for him. He went on to struggle hitting for a couple of months, and adjusting sliders etc. Then he came back and said he was ready to try it again and stick with it. Now it's all he uses and hits good. Maybe it isn't for everyone, but wouldn't play another way. I have to be mentally engaged on every pitch, which I love. Thats how baseball should be. When I'm not, I chase and yank my pci all over the place.

[Charvalos]

Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

Always normal. Strikeouts are low anyway, even with normal swing. So I dont see any reason to use contact swing.

Personnally, I use contact swing when is my pitcher at bat.

[NolanRyansSnowmonkey]

Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

Personnally, I use contact swing when is my pitcher at bat.

Not a bad idea. I'm American League so im not used to my pitcher batting. Do they still strike out at a realistic rate for pitchers?

[Charvalos]

Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show '17 Sliders

I think so. And if it isn't a strikeout, it's a flyball, groundball or popout.