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  • FenwayMac
    Pro
    • Mar 2009
    • 825

    #16
    Re: FenwayMac 2019 Pure Legend Sliders Meter/Zone

    Stat sheet now posted in post #1. Just click on the hyperlink and it will take you to a view-only shared document. I update after each game so you will be able to watch the numbers settle in real-time. Lots of stat categories are in the sheet. If you have any questions or want to know any stats that are not in the spreadsheet, just let me know!

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    • Rmiok222
      MVP
      • Nov 2015
      • 3129

      #17
      Re: FenwayMac 2019 Pure Legend Sliders Meter/Zone

      I just finished up a game. I lost 6-4 to the twins. I finally toned down the contact to 6 for human. Each team had 10 hits. One HR for Minnesota. 3 HRs for Cleveland. I struck out 7 times. Minnesota struck out 11 times. I walked 5.

      Kluber was rolling and somewhat imploded. Bases loaded 0 outs in the 7th inning, tie game and I brought in Kimbrel. He gave up a hit and 2 scored. After that he struck out 3 in a row. I wasn’t able to score again though. Such a fun set though.

      Everybody in OS is complaining about strikeouts and it’s not an issue for me whatsoever using this set.


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      • FenwayMac
        Pro
        • Mar 2009
        • 825

        #18
        Re: FenwayMac 2019 Pure Legend Sliders Meter/Zone

        Originally posted by Rmiok222
        I just finished up a game. I lost 6-4 to the twins. I finally toned down the contact to 6 for human. Each team had 10 hits. One HR for Minnesota. 3 HRs for Cleveland. I struck out 7 times. Minnesota struck out 11 times. I walked 5.

        Kluber was rolling and somewhat imploded. Bases loaded 0 outs in the 7th inning, tie game and I brought in Kimbrel. He gave up a hit and 2 scored. After that he struck out 3 in a row. I wasn’t able to score again though. Such a fun set though.

        Everybody in OS is complaining about strikeouts and it’s not an issue for me whatsoever using this set.


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        Definitely more consistency with K’s (on both sides of the ball) in the game this year. Not sure if it is the new version or setting timing to zero, but I just feel more like I can ear. A few extra K’s if I mix up location and type well. Rewarded for keeping the offense off-balance.

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        • Rmiok222
          MVP
          • Nov 2015
          • 3129

          #19
          Re: FenwayMac 2019 Pure Legend Sliders Meter/Zone

          Originally posted by FenwayMac
          Definitely more consistency with K’s (on both sides of the ball) in the game this year. Not sure if it is the new version or setting timing to zero, but I just feel more like I can ear. A few extra K’s if I mix up location and type well. Rewarded for keeping the offense off-balance.


          I can say it’s absolutely from setting timing at 0. Default sliders are way too hard to earn strikeouts. CPU would either hit our foul off everything at an unrealistic rate.


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          • coachmac75
            MVP
            • Dec 2012
            • 1167

            #20
            Re: FenwayMac 2019 Pure Legend Sliders Meter/Zone

            Hey guys, following the discussion with interest are the vault sliders relfecting the last changes you mention ?
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            • FenwayMac
              Pro
              • Mar 2009
              • 825

              #21
              Re: FenwayMac 2019 Pure Legend Sliders Meter/Zone

              Originally posted by coachmac75
              Hey guys, following the discussion with interest are the vault sliders relfecting the last changes you mention ?
              The Pure Legend slider set is still 100% same as original post so far. If you grab it from the vault it will be fine.

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              • FenwayMac
                Pro
                • Mar 2009
                • 825

                #22
                Re: FenwayMac 2019 Pure Legend Sliders Meter/Zone

                Just wanted to say thanks to everybody giving the legend sliders a go. We hit over 100 downloads this weekend and still going. Hope these are helping make the game add a little more variety to hitting results!

                I will be hitting 10 games today and will run actual MLB stats. Both CPU and HUM are settling in really well so it will be good to get a comparison.

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                • bryanm1982
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2016
                  • 3785

                  #23
                  Re: FenwayMac 2019 Pure Legend Sliders Meter/Zone

                  I’m using these sliders exactly except I’m on Hall of Fame hitting directional and pitching legend on classic. I have played two games so far and the stats are good so far. With my Brewers franchise First game I won 7-5 against the Nationals but I only struck out once. 2nd game was against Scherzer. I struck out 9 times and I made him work. He had 100 pitches after 5 innings. Nationals were up 4-0 and he put the first two men on in the 6th before they took him out. I had the bases loaded with nobody out and they walked in a run to make it 4-1. Then hit batter brought in another run to make it 4-2. Braun came in to pinch hit against the left hander after getting a day’s rest. He hit a grand slam to make it 6-4 and I won the game 6-4. What a great game. I’ll play several more games today and share some stats. I’m scared of using legend with directional hitting.
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                  • FenwayMac
                    Pro
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 825

                    #24
                    Re: FenwayMac 2019 Pure Legend Sliders Meter/Zone

                    10 games in the books.

                    As promised, here is a breakdown of the main stats I track after 10 games. I am a total numbers guy and my goal has always been to get percentages as close to MLB as possible. Sometimes it works better than others, and that is normally when it is tweak time.

                    I am extremely happy with how quickly these sliders are settling in even after only 10 games. Below are some of the main stats I track (if there are others you are curious to know just holler). Each of the stats also indicates the percentage above or below current MLB averages as of 4/28/19. I am usually very satisfied if I can get within a couple percent of reality, but as you will see, many of these shot much closer.

                    2019 MLB Averages
                    1B: 61.7%
                    2B:20.7%
                    3B :1.8%
                    HR : 15.8%

                    HUM Averages (% difference)
                    1B: 62.9% (+1.2%)
                    2B:22.5% (+1.8%)
                    3B :3.4% (+1.6%)
                    HR : 11.2% (-4.6%)

                    Summary: You will never hear me fret to much about not hitting enough home runs. I would rather see the ball spray around the field more, plus inevitably home runs will pick up and start coming in bunches. They always do. I average exactly one a game, where MLB average is currently 1.33.

                    CPU Averages (% difference)
                    1B: 60.2% (-1.5%)
                    2B:21.7 (+1.0%)
                    3B :3.6% (+1.8%)
                    HR : 14.5% (-1.3%)

                    Summary: Keeping the CPU home runs under control was a main goal of the set. Some of this is transferring to doubles and triples, but in reality the CPU is averaging 1.2 per game, just under league average. I like that triples are also in play here. I know that fielder speed at 2 is unorthodox, but you will see that extra base hits are definitely within reasonable limits for both HUM and CPU.

                    MLB AVG: .246
                    HUM AVG: .243 (-.003)
                    CPU AVG: .236 (-.010)

                    Summary: Both HUM and CPU are nearly spot on here so far.

                    MLB K's per game: 8.7
                    HUM K'S per game: 9.3 (+0.6)
                    CPU K's per game: 9.2 (+0.5)

                    Summary: Many have mentioned difficulty obtaining or receiving K's this year. So far both are actually slightly ABOVE MLB average, though just barely.

                    MLB BB per game: 3.4
                    HUM BB's per game: 2.9 (-0.5)
                    CPU BB's per game: 1.7 (-1.7)

                    Summary: HUM is pretty close to average. CPU is a little low, but a lot of those is going to depend on my pitching habits, and I tend to attack the zone more as I am averaging right around 70% strikes and first pitch strike %.

                    MLB BABIP per game: .295
                    HUM BABIP per game: .296 (+.001)
                    CPU BABIP per game: .286 (-.009)

                    Summary: While BABIP can vary wildly, at the very least this is telling me that the slider balance is pretty calibrated the game balance is fairly tuned. These are a lot closer after 10 games than I had anticipated, but I am thrilled to see this!


                    Let me know your thoughts of if you would like to know more about these number or other stats you are curious about. Thank you again for supporting these sliders!

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                    • bryanm1982
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2016
                      • 3785

                      #25
                      Re: FenwayMac 2019 Pure Legend Sliders Meter/Zone

                      So I’m using these with classic pitching on legend. After 5 games, 2 vs the Nationals and 3 vs the Cubs, I have only gave up 1 HR which was in the first game. The cpu batting average is .211 and their BABIP is .275. They are striking out average of 8 per game.

                      Singles: 70.6%
                      Doubles: 26.5%
                      Triples: 0%
                      Home Runs: 2.9%

                      I wouldn’t think using classic pitching would nerf the cpu hitting power. That shouldn’t have anything to do with it I wouldn’t think. I assume it is just good pitching. They averaged 3 runs per game in the 5 games.
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                      • FenwayMac
                        Pro
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 825

                        #26
                        Re: FenwayMac 2019 Pure Legend Sliders Meter/Zone

                        Originally posted by bryanm1982
                        So I’m using these with classic pitching on legend. After 5 games, 2 vs the Nationals and 3 vs the Cubs, I have only gave up 1 HR which was in the first game. The cpu batting average is .211 and their BABIP is .275. They are striking out average of 8 per game.

                        Singles: 70.6%
                        Doubles: 26.5%
                        Triples: 0%
                        Home Runs: 2.9%

                        I wouldn’t think using classic pitching would nerf the cpu hitting power. That shouldn’t have anything to do with it I wouldn’t think. I assume it is just good pitching. They averaged 3 runs per game in the 5 games.
                        I wouldn’t worry about it, at least yet. The CPU will start to destroy you the moment you let your guard down. You are probably right about your pitchers just being in a groove at the moment.

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                        • bryanm1982
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                          • Nov 2016
                          • 3785

                          #27
                          Re: FenwayMac 2019 Pure Legend Sliders Meter/Zone

                          Originally posted by FenwayMac
                          I wouldn’t worry about it, at least yet. The CPU will start to destroy you the moment you let your guard down. You are probably right about your pitchers just being in a groove at the moment.
                          Thanks. I just noticed that my user average is .301 and the BABIP is .341 using directional.
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                          • FenwayMac
                            Pro
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 825

                            #28
                            Re: FenwayMac 2019 Pure Legend Sliders Meter/Zone

                            Originally posted by bryanm1982
                            Thanks. I just noticed that my user average is .301 and the BABIP is .341 using directional.
                            I only use zone so I can only speculate, but I suspect that the extra contact tick is boosting your hit totals. With zone it is helpful to have a little extra fudge if I don’t lone up PCI perfect, but maybe with direction it just gives you too much fudge! LOL.

                            I am curious with the lower power slider if most of your hits are staying in the park...

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                            • bryanm1982
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2016
                              • 3785

                              #29
                              Re: FenwayMac 2019 Pure Legend Sliders Meter/Zone

                              Maybe I’ll lower contact to 5. With power at 4 I hit 5 HR in 5 games.

                              Singles: 67.3%
                              Doubles: 19.2%
                              Triples: 3.8%
                              Home Runs: 9.8%
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                              • bryanm1982
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                                • Nov 2016
                                • 3785

                                #30
                                Re: FenwayMac 2019 Pure Legend Sliders Meter/Zone

                                My line drive rate is also 27%. Maybe lowering contact will even that out as well?
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