JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

[gman2774]

Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

Josh--I want to thank you for your continued efforts and suggesting the all star approach to begin with. I love the feel and vibe of all star but I'm at a point where I'm working to make it more challenging for me without having to move to HOF. HOF is fine, I just prefer the feel of all star. Thought I would share my adjustments built off your base in the spirit that it might help others adjust to their skill level. So far so good (for me) but I'm working on a bigger sample size. Imo, camera selection and pitch speed have huge impacts on results.

Adjustments:
-Hitting Camera: MLB The Show 15
-Pitching Camera: Outfield
-Human Timing:4
-Human Solid hits: 4
-Human Pitch Control: 5 (I prefer outfield camera for pitching. With control at 6, I'm too accurate. 5 works for me with this camera).
-CPU Solid hits: 6
-CPU Timing: 6
-CPU Pitch Control: 6
-Pitch Speed: 7 (Both for fastball and offspeed).
-Fielder Speed & Reaction: 5 for both.
**All others sliders at default of 5.

As I mentioned I love using the outfield camera for pitching. The downside is once you get the feel of it (clean screen) it can become easier to consistently hit your spots. Not as easy as using the ball marker or controller vibrate on, but easier than using broadcast camera which varies view and requires custom aim adjustments per stadium. Thus, I need to boost the CPU offense and lower human pitch control which is what I've done. So far so good. To make hitting challenging for me (e.g. realistic based on my skill level) I too have lowered timing and solid hits to 4. This with the combination of pitch speed at 7 seems to challenge me in a realistic way. I tried to lower pitch speed back down to 5 and started raking at an unrealistic clip again. That and I was just not afraid or intimidated by a high velo fastball pitcher.

Honestly I probably should make the move to HOF. However, I really like the feel of all star and I'd like to pursue finding adjustments that work for me. Work for me defined as tougher than all star but not as difficult as HOF. A custom all star plus if you will. Thanks to all of you for the dialogue in this thread. It's fun to read and gives me ideas for tinkering.

[JoshC1977]

Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

Josh--I want to thank you for your continued efforts and suggesting the all star approach to begin with. I love the feel and vibe of all star but I'm at a point where I'm working to make it more challenging for me without having to move to HOF. HOF is fine, I just prefer the feel of all star. Thought I would share my adjustments built off your base in the spirit that it might help others adjust to their skill level. So far so good (for me) but I'm working on a bigger sample size. Imo, camera selection and pitch speed have huge impacts on results.

Adjustments:
-Hitting Camera: MLB The Show 15
-Pitching Camera: Outfield
-Human Timing:4
-Human Solid hits: 4
-Human Pitch Control: 5 (I prefer outfield camera for pitching. With control at 6, I'm too accurate. 5 works for me with this camera).
-CPU Solid hits: 6
-CPU Timing: 6
-CPU Pitch Control: 6
-Pitch Speed: 7 (Both for fastball and offspeed).
-Fielder Speed & Reaction: 5 for both.
**All others sliders at default of 5.

As I mentioned I love using the outfield camera for pitching. The downside is once you get the feel of it (clean screen) it can become easier to consistently hit your spots. Not as easy as using the ball marker or controller vibrate on, but easier than using broadcast camera which varies view and requires custom aim adjustments per stadium. Thus, I need to boost the CPU offense and lower human pitch control which is what I've done. So far so good. To make hitting challenging for me (e.g. realistic based on my skill level) I too have lowered timing and solid hits to 4. This with the combination of pitch speed at 7 seems to challenge me in a realistic way. I tried to lower pitch speed back down to 5 and started raking at an unrealistic clip again. That and I was just not afraid or intimidated by a high velo fastball pitcher.

Honestly I probably should make the move to HOF. However, I really like the feel of all star and I'd like to pursue finding adjustments that work for me. Work for me defined as tougher than all star but not as difficult as HOF. A custom all star plus if you will. Thanks to all of you for the dialogue in this thread. It's fun to read and gives me ideas for tinkering.

I used the OF camera for pitching all last year so I get what you're saying. I went to Broadcast for a different flavor this year and have enjoyed it for sure...but the consistency in "feel" using OF cam is nice.

Overall, those look like solid adjustments to me, but you might get sick of the CPU smacking line drive after line drive off of you. And truth be told, they aren't always as effective.

I have an alternate suggestion if you're interested: You might, if you haven't done so already, take what I posted last night (including the 4/4 solid hits/timing for CPU) but lower user pitch control to 4. With user pitch control at 4 (1 tick higher than CPU contact), their hitters will have an advantage (even if you hit your spots - which will be harder to do). The lower solid hits/timing will give a better hit variety, so the CPU will be able to get those bloopers in play along with the hard hit balls. In theory, it would feel more "challenging" but also look a bit more "real".

[gman2774]

Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

I used the OF camera for pitching all last year so I get what you're saying. I went to Broadcast for a different flavor this year and have enjoyed it for sure...but the consistency in "feel" using OF cam is nice.



Overall, those look like solid adjustments to me, but you might get sick of the CPU smacking line drive after line drive off of you. And truth be told, they aren't always as effective.



I have an alternate suggestion if you're interested: You might, if you haven't done so already, take what I posted last night (including the 4/4 solid hits/timing for CPU) but lower user pitch control to 4. With user pitch control at 4 (1 tick higher than CPU contact), their hitters will have an advantage (even if you hit your spots - which will be harder to do). The lower solid hits/timing will give a better hit variety, so the CPU will be able to get those bloopers in play along with the hard hit balls. In theory, it would feel more "challenging" but also look a bit more "real".

Great idea. Thanks for sharing. I’ll give it a shot. I’m enjoying the testing.


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[tc020791]

Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

Was playing with Armors sliders for a while but something just didn't feel right. I felt like no matter what team I used there was no way I would finish above .500. Playing with exact OP along with fielder reaction and run speed both at 4. This was the 4th game of my season, it was a blast. Early in the game I got into a 0-2 count with Kiermaier and proceeded to fall off 7 pitches before taking a 3-2 fastball deep. It was probably the most fun at bat I've had in '19 and I've played a ton so far. Tampa Bay (me) had 5BB and 12K as a pitching staff. While Houston (cpu) had 4BB and 7K as a staff.

By the way this game went to the 11th before Kiermaier walked it off with his second HR of the game.

[GoodyBucs]

Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

Honestly I probably should make the move to HOF. However, I really like the feel of all star and I'd like to pursue finding adjustments that work for me. Work for me defined as tougher than all star but not as difficult as HOF. A custom all star plus if you will. Thanks to all of you for the dialogue in this thread. It's fun to read and gives me ideas for tinkering.[/QUOTE]

I have been jumping back and forth between AS and HOF and I couldn't agree more. It's hard to put my thumb on exactly but HOF feels pushed while AS feels more organic to me.

[No.27]

Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

I managed to fit in a quick double header Red Sox versus Oakland last night. My initial thought is I never knew All Star could be so challenging. Well done Josh!

Having the Timing slider at 4 combined with Pitcher Control at 6 I’ve now started to fear striking out instead of grinding a pitcher into the ground knowing I could still make contact in 3-2 Counts. I’m find myself swinging a lot earlier in the count at good pitches which has added a lot of hit variety to all different parts of the field instead of line drives at outfielders. My hits were down, fouls way down, walks the same and strikeouts up slightly. I only scored one run in each game but it was enough to win. All positive outcomes for me.

When I pitched I must admit it was with vibration as I’m still getting used to clean screen so the results were a bit in my favour. Eovaldi and the bullpen took a team No No into the ninth but the second last out I needed got a hit! Where is Kimbrel?? I checked later and Oakland are one of the lowest rated Contact teams so what I was seeing was plausible. Of note CPU fouls were spot on to real life.In the second game Sale pitched a beauty and managed to get to 8 innings on 120 pitches so Stamina at 5 looks good. For the CPU hits were way down but they had a good mix, fouls and strikeouts were spot on. Will see how they go when I go to vibration off but liking what I’m seeing so far on the pitching side.

[tc020791]

Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

I'm having so much fun with these sliders. I know 8 games is a small sample size but the variety is definitely already there, which is exactly what I was looking for. I could go into all the great things this set does for this game but that would take alot of time. If you're finding HOF a little too hard I'd highly suggest giving these a try. You have to be aware that you're on AS now though and let the ratings play out more. Take more 3-2 pitches, let the pitcher decide if he wants the K or the BB. Only use your max effort pitches in K situations, and in other situations just let ratings play out with a simple button tap. With just small adjustments like this I've made AS a little more ratings driven. Also the biggest adjustment I made was turning vibration totally off. Now if I go to rear back on 0-2 I run the risk of totally overthrowing a pitch. I did this the other day and gave up a 2R-HR in the top of the 9th. Luckily I won in extras. So far through 8 games (again small sample size) I'm not last in any Team Stat categories, and I'm only in first for two. So far I have 21 doubles, while second has 18. I think that is very plausible as TB has a good offense but not extreme pop, plus some speed. Also 21 doubles in 8 games is only 2.6 per game, nothing crazy there. The other category I'm actually tied for first in is Strikeouts thrown by MY pitching staff. So far I have 80K in 73 innings pitched. This is very plausible for maybe the best pitching staff in baseball. Below are the results from all 8 games, plus the box score from game 1 of a 9 game road trip.

L vs HOU 3-6
L vs HOU 2-5
W vs HOU 9-3
W vs HOU 7-5

W vs COL 11-7
L vs COL 3-4
L vs COL 2-3

W @ SF 5-1

TB Runs/Gm: 5.25
CPU Runs/Gm: 4.25

[No.27]

Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

Agreed vibration off is the cornerstone of these settings. I initially thought with Pitcher Control at 6 I may well dominate the CPU until I went into practice mode with and Chris Sale with vibration off. The Astros took him apart and I was even giving up walks without throwing a strike. It looked a lot like his early season nightmare! I’m thinking I might even have to start at the off season in my keeper Franchise to learn how to pitch again. Loving the challenge so far.

[JoshC1977]

Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

Just a quickie update, I have formally adopted the fielder reaction at 4. It's played nicely and has allowed for a bit more separation of fielding ability.

My Reds franchise (all played since I incorporated the lower timing/solid hits values) is off to a rough start. Early times, but we're 2-4 to start the campaign.

PIT 1-4 (L)
PIT 2-4 (L)
PIT 3-4 (L)
MIL 4-3 (W)
MIL 6-4 (W)
MIL 3-9 (L)

In other news, I lost Joey Votto for 1-2 months with a separated shoulder in my last game (injured diving for a ball). We'll be running a bevy of guys at the cold corner until Joey comes back (and he was my only hot hitter before getting hurt, hitting over .500 with 5 HRs in his first 20 ABs).

After a 4 game set in Pittsburgh and a 3 game set at home vs the Marlins, the schedule really stiffens with series vs StL, LAD, SD, ATL, and NYM to finish the month of April.

I'm still loosely monitoring pitch counts, but other than that, I feel REALLY good about what we're seeing here and don't have plans to make further changes at this juncture.

[gman2774]

Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

Just a quickie update, I have formally adopted the fielder reaction at 4. It's played nicely and has allowed for a bit more separation of fielding ability.



My Reds franchise (all played since I incorporated the lower timing/solid hits values) is off to a rough start. Early times, but we're 2-4 to start the campaign.



PIT 1-4 (L)

PIT 2-4 (L)

PIT 3-4 (L)

MIL 4-3 (W)

MIL 6-4 (W)

MIL 3-9 (L)



In other news, I lost Joey Votto for 1-2 months with a separated shoulder in my last game (injured diving for a ball). We'll be running a bevy of guys at the cold corner until Joey comes back (and he was my only hot hitter before getting hurt, hitting over .500 with 5 HRs in his first 20 ABs).



After a 4 game set in Pittsburgh and a 3 game set at home vs the Marlins, the schedule really stiffens with series vs StL, LAD, SD, ATL, and NYM to finish the month of April.



I'm still loosely monitoring pitch counts, but other than that, I feel REALLY good about what we're seeing here and don't have plans to make further changes at this juncture.

Josh-How do you hit? Assuming you use buttons and not the right stick flick or stride. Also, do you use the left stick influence at all? I use Warmwind’s directional hit strategy and I rake consistently with it. Just curious about your hitting approach.


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[No.27]

Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

Thanks for the update Josh. I’ve been thinking about a one click away from Default slider set for a couple of years and you’ve managed to make it a reality. As soon as Scott’s V2 FM is released I will be all in with these sliders. Cheers.

PS Glad you went with Fielder Reaction at 4. I’d gone back to trial 5 in game and Devers new found gold glove ability at the hot corner was becoming tiresome

[JoshC1977]

Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

Josh-How do you hit? Assuming you use buttons and not the right stick flick or stride. Also, do you use the left stick influence at all? I use Warmwind’s directional hit strategy and I rake consistently with it. Just curious about your hitting approach.


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I use the directional button interface.

In terms of strategy, I use a lot of Warmwind's approach, but I stay 'stick neutral' a lot more this year. I've had better luck relying more on hitter 'hot spots' than influencing the swing this year. Now, some of that is because the camera I use (retro) has one weakness, timing. It's harder to time one's swing with that camera but the strength is that you have a very clear view of pitch location. I switched to retro last year because all the other cameras have that downward angle and pitches low in the zone were killing me. So...I'm using a camera with a timing weakness, and just lowered the timing slider....It's made hitting quite challenging for me (which I love).

The stick influence essentially changes that timing window so it adds yet another variable. However, as I learn my hitters and their individual windows, I'll begin incorporating the directional swing for that player more and more. Part of the reason I was raking with Votto (till he got hurt - grr) was that I used him a ton last year in franchise (and on my DD team this year) so I have a really good feel for him.

On a semi-related note, part of the reason I went back to the default pitch speed was because with it at 7, hitting got to be easier for me....it became more of a 'reflex' vs skill.

Don't know if this whole spiel is helpful or not...let me know if you would like me to elaborate on anything.....

[GoodyBucs]

Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

Josh, what changes could I expect to see if I bump both human and cpu to 6?

[JoshC1977]

Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

Josh, what changes could I expect to see if I bump both human and cpu to 6?

Bump what?

[GoodyBucs]

Re: JoshC1977's MLB 19 Sliders

Bump what?

Whoops- meant to say "power"

Haven't seen that many homers...