Mike Lowe MLB The Show 20 Sliders

[The Kid 24]

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No having a tough time deciding. Waiting until new roster drops and will make a decision then.

I think we're gonna be waiting awhile on that roster from SDS.

Sounds like FM guys are releasing a roster on Sunday night but unfortunately won't have face scanned Lux and Puk.

[stormchaserck19]

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I think we're gonna be waiting awhile on that roster from SDS.

Sounds like FM guys are releasing a roster on Sunday night but unfortunately won't have face scanned Lux and Puk.

I think the roster coming this weekend from the FM guys will be good enough to start a franchise/RTTS with. Doesn't have to be perfect.

[The Kid 24]

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I think the roster coming this weekend from the FM guys will be good enough to start a franchise/RTTS with. Doesn't have to be perfect.

Correct, that's what Ridin said.

I just really want face scanned Lux and Puk since they will be major contributors this year.

[Mike Lowe]

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What's the delay w SDS?

[The Kid 24]

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What's the delay w SDS?

Just dont know how "soon" is soon and the season being pushed WAY back doesnt help.

And I think roster updates come out on Thursdays? I dont think there's been an update today.

[ninertravel]

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I think I might give these a shot so far out of the 17 games I have played in franchise (played every game opening day) 90% of the runs have been homers WAY to many.

I noticed you dropped the power to 4 so this might be a good help!

[cubbies1744]

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If I am not mistaken i think the roster updates last year was on a Friday I could be wrong but hoping I am right lol

Just dont know how "soon" is soon and the season being pushed WAY back doesnt help.

And I think roster updates come out on Thursdays? I dont think there's been an update today.

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[ninertravel]

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Already a massive change for me 0 homer’s after 6 innings and only 3 total hits ! Only 1 game shall sample size but before this three would have been about 5 hr by now!

I might have to put solid hits up timing fine but a lot if fiy balls from weak contact

[jcern2323]

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Just my opinion, but I do not see it as necessary to lower reaction and fielder speed by more than even 1 this year. Considering the rework they did for animations to jumps in the outfield, this allows gappers and bloops to land in the field of play just fine.



I personally only lowered fielder speed to 4 and left reaction at 5.

Ya I may agree on this I went with Beta 2 and I still think its too slow also I upped USER Hum Pitch accuracy to 3 just a bit too wild but these sliders are money out the gate we all may need to just tweak a little but a great starting point and very thankful for these as a base!!

[JWDixon120]

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Alright, so I've played 8 full 9 inning games with this in Franchise using Atlanta and these are my takeaways
(Also I'm playing on Legendary hitting and pitching)

Hitting wise, I was starting to think it was too easy as I was around a .360 AVG as a team through 5 games, however I moved pitch speed up to 10 for each and it has since leveled out more and I really like the skill level.

Fielding still seems a little wonky. Partly because it is particularly hard to "lock on" to the ball this year it seems. OF reaction time could use a slight boost IMO as stated above in the replies. Fielders are already slow depending on their reaction attribute. Infielders feel decent I would say, but again that's more on SDS' end. The "assist" option sometimes makes my infielders run in on a hard hit grounder and it ends up rolling to the outfield when it shouldn't. Again, this is more so on SDS. (Personally I believe the rosters were rated pretty poorly this year across the board... examples being Ozzie Albies and Dansby Swanson only having speed in the 70's despite them being 88 and 86th percentile in sprint speed. Also Albies only has 79 fielding after having just 4 errors all of last year seems odd.)

Pitching has proven to be extremely difficult so far. My pitchers seem to have pretty poor control all around. Even my guys like Soroka and Hamels struggle to hit their spots when I get the meter perfect. This has led to a lot of hits/HR's thus far. Unfortunately my pitchers are missing within the zone instead of outside of it. I believe i've had only one game so far allowing under 10 hits.
Side note here: Not to "brag" (because personally I find no reason too) but last year using Mike's sliders, I played every pitch of a 162 game season and managed to win the WS, so I don't believe the pitching flaws are totally just user error.
Mike Soroka who has over a 80 HR/9 attribute has given up 4 HR in just 13 innings. That's about 2.74 HR/9. He was at 0.7HR/9 Last year

Also, Swings and misses still seem far and few between. I'm tied for 2nd last in team strikeouts with only 40 through 8 games. 0-2 counts are relatively easy to get into, but guys will foul every strikeout pitch away until they put one in play.

Hope this helps and hopefully we can keep making progress!


P.S: Has anyone else had the issue where the AI makes literally 15 trades on April 2nd? It seems to be only top prospects that get traded. Royce Lewis, Gavin Lux, etc all were traded and Lux was traded twice. I simmed through the date with the trade slider on 0 and it still occurred. Luckily I use 30 team control so I can correct it, however it is annoying SDS programmed the AI to move that many high profile prospects on the same day.

[Ryanreeser]

Re: Mike Lowe MLB The Show 20 Sliders

Alright, so I've played 8 full 9 inning games with this in Franchise using Atlanta and these are my takeaways
(Also I'm playing on Legendary hitting and pitching)

Hitting wise, I was starting to think it was too easy as I was around a .360 AVG as a team through 5 games, however I moved pitch speed up to 10 for each and it has since leveled out more and I really like the skill level.

Fielding still seems a little wonky. Partly because it is particularly hard to "lock on" to the ball this year it seems. OF reaction time could use a slight boost IMO as stated above in the replies. Fielders are already slow depending on their reaction attribute. Infielders feel decent I would say, but again that's more on SDS' end. The "assist" option sometimes makes my infielders run in on a hard hit grounder and it ends up rolling to the outfield when it shouldn't. Again, this is more so on SDS. (Personally I believe the rosters were rated pretty poorly this year across the board... examples being Ozzie Albies and Dansby Swanson only having speed in the 70's despite them being 88 and 86th percentile in sprint speed. Also Albies only has 79 fielding after having just 4 errors all of last year seems odd.)

Pitching has proven to be extremely difficult so far. My pitchers seem to have pretty poor control all around. Even my guys like Soroka and Hamels struggle to hit their spots when I get the meter perfect. This has led to a lot of hits/HR's thus far. Unfortunately my pitchers are missing within the zone instead of outside of it. I believe i've had only one game so far allowing under 10 hits.
Side note here: Not to "brag" (because personally I find no reason too) but last year using Mike's sliders, I played every pitch of a 162 game season and managed to win the WS, so I don't believe the pitching flaws are totally just user error.
Mike Soroka who has over a 80 HR/9 attribute has given up 4 HR in just 13 innings. That's about 2.74 HR/9. He was at 0.7HR/9 Last year

Also, Swings and misses still seem far and few between. I'm tied for 2nd last in team strikeouts with only 40 through 8 games. 0-2 counts are relatively easy to get into, but guys will foul every strikeout pitch away until they put one in play.

Hope this helps and hopefully we can keep making progress!


P.S: Has anyone else had the issue where the AI makes literally 15 trades on April 2nd? It seems to be only top prospects that get traded. Royce Lewis, Gavin Lux, etc all were traded and Lux was traded twice. I simmed through the date with the trade slider on 0 and it still occurred. Luckily I use 30 team control so I can correct it, however it is annoying SDS programmed the AI to move that many high profile prospects on the same day.

The default rosters are out of balance. The Orioles have like 12 catchers lmao. The Ridin roster this weekend will definitely fix the potentials amongst other things, so this will hopefully be fixed

[agentlaw13]

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Got a few games in last night with v2 (HOF settings). Still seeing too many HR from user and cpu. Last game I played, there were 14 total HR’s, Indians/me (6 hrs) vs White Sox/cpu (8 hrs)! That might be a record in all my years playing the Show lol. Gonna knock power down a notch for user and cpu and play a few games this wknd. Other than that, I’m loving the set.


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[Mike Lowe]

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Alright, so I've played 8 full 9 inning games with this in Franchise using Atlanta and these are my takeaways
(Also I'm playing on Legendary hitting and pitching)

Hitting wise, I was starting to think it was too easy as I was around a .360 AVG as a team through 5 games, however I moved pitch speed up to 10 for each and it has since leveled out more and I really like the skill level.

Fielding still seems a little wonky. Partly because it is particularly hard to "lock on" to the ball this year it seems. OF reaction time could use a slight boost IMO as stated above in the replies. Fielders are already slow depending on their reaction attribute. Infielders feel decent I would say, but again that's more on SDS' end. The "assist" option sometimes makes my infielders run in on a hard hit grounder and it ends up rolling to the outfield when it shouldn't. Again, this is more so on SDS. (Personally I believe the rosters were rated pretty poorly this year across the board... examples being Ozzie Albies and Dansby Swanson only having speed in the 70's despite them being 88 and 86th percentile in sprint speed. Also Albies only has 79 fielding after having just 4 errors all of last year seems odd.)

Pitching has proven to be extremely difficult so far. My pitchers seem to have pretty poor control all around. Even my guys like Soroka and Hamels struggle to hit their spots when I get the meter perfect. This has led to a lot of hits/HR's thus far. Unfortunately my pitchers are missing within the zone instead of outside of it. I believe i've had only one game so far allowing under 10 hits.
Side note here: Not to "brag" (because personally I find no reason too) but last year using Mike's sliders, I played every pitch of a 162 game season and managed to win the WS, so I don't believe the pitching flaws are totally just user error.
Mike Soroka who has over a 80 HR/9 attribute has given up 4 HR in just 13 innings. That's about 2.74 HR/9. He was at 0.7HR/9 Last year

Also, Swings and misses still seem far and few between. I'm tied for 2nd last in team strikeouts with only 40 through 8 games. 0-2 counts are relatively easy to get into, but guys will foul every strikeout pitch away until they put one in play.

Hope this helps and hopefully we can keep making progress!


P.S: Has anyone else had the issue where the AI makes literally 15 trades on April 2nd? It seems to be only top prospects that get traded. Royce Lewis, Gavin Lux, etc all were traded and Lux was traded twice. I simmed through the date with the trade slider on 0 and it still occurred. Luckily I use 30 team control so I can correct it, however it is annoying SDS programmed the AI to move that many high profile prospects on the same day.

It's been disappointing to see the game's fielding "locking on" regress back to where it was about 2 years ago. It's really surprising. This set has always recommended using auto-fielding, and until further notice, that may be the necessary case for 20.

I'm definitely planning to make some changes this weekend to fielding, user pitching/AI hitting. I will say that I'm actually getting a lot more swings and misses by the AI this year. The issue you mentioned about 3rd strikes being much harder than strikes 1-2 is an issue that has plagued this game for years. The game just uses contact swing too much.

If you're seeing too many hit and run attempts (why, SDS? WHY?!) and/or getting crushed while pitching, you're likely around the plate too much. Throw more balls and try and get the AI to chase. At the very least, it'll help keep them honest.

As for the trading, I have in the top of my first post to adjust the rosters before starting a franchise. These trades are the game balancing out positional depth, and you can handle some of that yourself ahead of time. Turning the slider to 0 won't stop this, but what will stop it is to temporarily turn off trading. You may want to leave it off most of the first season, even but that balance is up to everyone else. I plan to spending time before the first season balancing rosters, and then simming ahead to test it before I bother playing any games. Keep frequent backups in April!

[JWDixon120]

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It's been disappointing to see the game's fielding "locking on" regress back to where it was about 2 years ago. It's really surprising. This set has always recommended using auto-fielding, and until further notice, that may be the necessary case for 20.

I'm definitely planning to make some changes this weekend to fielding, user pitching/AI hitting. I will say that I'm actually getting a lot more swings and misses by the AI this year. The issue you mentioned about 3rd strikes being much harder than strikes 1-2 is an issue that has plagued this game for years. The game just uses contact swing too much.

If you're seeing too many hit and run attempts (why, SDS? WHY?!) and/or getting crushed while pitching, you're likely around the plate too much. Throw more balls and try and get the AI to chase. At the very least, it'll help keep them honest.

As for the trading, I have in the top of my first post to adjust the rosters before starting a franchise. These trades are the game balancing out positional depth, and you can handle some of that yourself ahead of time. Turning the slider to 0 won't stop this, but what will stop it is to temporarily turn off trading. You may want to leave it off most of the first season, even but that balance is up to everyone else. I plan to spending time before the first season balancing rosters, and then simming ahead to test it before I bother playing any games. Keep frequent backups in April!

I used the Auto Fielding all last year but tried to give this year's a shot. I'll most likely revert there.
Also, I'll look to do some balancing myself.

Thanks for the response!

[knucklecutter]

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I played 3 games with the v2 slider set the other day and they played fine, no complaints. This morning I played 3 more games with a few tweaks. I upped human pitcher control and consistency one click and fielder run speed one click. Truthfully I didn't notice a difference in the fielders, but with my pitcher I felt like I was a little more in control of the outcome than before but not so much that I could pin point, there was still plenty enough randomness to it that it felt believable. Nothing about any of the 6 games I've played felt lop sided or far fetched. The slider set is definitely a good base to work off of. I'm not seeing an abundant amount of HR's like some people in and outside of this slider set are talking about, but I guess that has a lot to do with the individual persons skills, settings and the teams they use. All in all it's been some good baseball, fun yet challenging.



In all 6 of the games I've played using these sliders I've used HOF for both pitching and batting with classic / directional inputs and max pitch speeds.


Edit: I also used auto fielding with manual throwing.