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  • mitchel55
    Rookie
    • Aug 2011
    • 72

    #586
    Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

    Hi Josh, this may be a dumb question, but in terms of difficulty for hitting and pitching you recommend All Star or All Star+. What exactly is All Star+ in this case given we don't have the dynamic difficulty turned on? I don't see an All Star+ difficulty setting in the gameplay menu like I do All Star. Thanks for your help!

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    • jrnlgrn
      Pro
      • Oct 2018
      • 3076

      #587
      Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

      Originally posted by mitchel55
      Hi Josh, this may be a dumb question, but in terms of difficulty for hitting and pitching you recommend All Star or All Star+. What exactly is All Star+ in this case given we don't have the dynamic difficulty turned on? I don't see an All Star+ difficulty setting in the gameplay menu like I do All Star. Thanks for your help!
      All-Star plus is only possible using Dynamic Difficulty.

      Here are the instructions to get it setup


      Originally posted by JoshC1977
      Steps for Using Dynamic Difficulty:

      1. Go into game settings and change hitting and pitching to dynamic.
      2. Load sliders, make sure the dynamic difficulty sensitivity slider is set to 5. (It can be higher as well while you do your run to boost the difficulty).
      3. Save any changes to the sliders.
      4. Go into a Play Now game and see what level it has you set to (there will be a pop-up).
      5. Play the game and wait for it to go to AS+. (now...if it starts you at a lower level...go ahead and boost the sensitivity slider to 10 and/or bias the sliders completely in your favor - this all will just make it go faster).
      6. Once you hit AS+ on both hitting and pitching, exit the game you're playing. Go and load the OP sliders and then change the dynamic difficulty sensistivity slider to 0. That will lock you into AS+.
      7. Once in franchise, double check your game settings and sliders and make sure they are what you want.
      "Listen son, you only have enough runs when you’re showering after a win."

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      • mitchel55
        Rookie
        • Aug 2011
        • 72

        #588
        Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

        Originally posted by jrnlgrn
        All-Star plus is only possible using Dynamic Difficulty.

        Here are the instructions to get it setup

        Awesome, thanks! I assume All Star+ just makes the game slightly more difficult to help makes things a little more realistic for good players. I'm towards the end of a season and my team batting average is still around .285 (pitching a team ERA around 3) and I've easily got the best record, so things are just a little too easy I think.
        Last edited by mitchel55; 02-13-2021, 02:37 AM.

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        • jrnlgrn
          Pro
          • Oct 2018
          • 3076

          #589
          Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

          Originally posted by mitchel55
          Awesome, thanks! I assume All Star+ just makes the game slightly more difficult to help makes things a little more realistic for good players. I'm towards the end of a season and my team batting average is still around .285 (pitching a team ERA around 3) and I've easily got the best record, so things are just a little too easy I think.

          Yes. You won't suddenly be the worst team in the league but it should make things a bit tougher but in a realistic way.
          "Listen son, you only have enough runs when you’re showering after a win."

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          • Cide
            Rookie
            • Sep 2010
            • 10

            #590
            Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

            Hey Josh. Just curious what roster/lineup settings you use while playing franchise? Do you set everything to Manual or let the CPU control some aspects? Thanks.

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            • JoshC1977
              All Star
              • Dec 2010
              • 11564

              #591
              Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

              Originally posted by Cide
              Hey Josh. Just curious what roster/lineup settings you use while playing franchise? Do you set everything to Manual or let the CPU control some aspects? Thanks.
              I do single-team control (with GM contracts on) and have everything set to manual.
              Play the games you love, not the games you want to love.

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              • forme95
                MVP
                • Nov 2013
                • 3118

                #592
                Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

                Originally posted by JoshC1977
                With my 'gut' telling me that I am likely going to stick with MLB20 for franchise mode for quite a while; I thought I would go ahead and keep things going here.

                In the last slider update I posted (back in October) I lowered the fielding speed and fielding reaction sliders down to 4. I'm going to ballpark that I've played around 50 games or so at these settings. If I focus on individual animations; yes, they do typically look a little 'cleaner' at times. But, when I look holistically at the overall game environment, something just doesn't quite balance-out. In short, there's just way too many hits the fall into the gaps, too many little dribblers that get past defenders. Even if the slider changes only directly impact the outcome of 2-3 ABs per game; that can have a pretty dramatic impact on pitcher confidence, which can then devolve into more and more hits.

                I'm not a huge "stat guy" with my video games; but it's hard for even me to ignore it when my team batting average has shot up from the .250s to the .280s (and it's definitely been this way on the CPU offensive side). I've also seen a number of contact-oriented guys with contact ratings in the 70s (but low power) hit close to or over .300...with big spikes (like .320s/.330s) since the change. I'd much prefer those guys to be more in the .270s - .280s. If you think about it, a contact rating of 60 is considered to be "league average"....in that context, seeing guys with contact in the 70s pretty consistently running up into the .300s doesn't quite make sense (and I have enough of a sample size that I feel it isn't "noise" in the data).

                Some people might say "then lower the contact slider"...but then, you're just adding more complexity than is needed. Now you begin impacting the duel between pitcher and batter; and I genuinely like where we are with it right now. The big thing to me is lowering that BABIP (which we unfortunately cannot easily track - but it feels a bit too high for my taste). So, the "right move" for me is to revert those two fielding sliders (speed and reaction) back to default. The funny thing is that I went through this same process last year...vouching hard for default for a long while, switching to 4/4, and then reverting it back.

                So yes, I'm going to revert the OP back to defaults. While the lower sliders help 'stretch' the fielding rating a bit (which is good); it's condensing the hitting ratings a fair bit more (which is not good). I'm going to 'take the hit' on the fielding side for the sake of a little better balance.
                Interesting find. I thought the uptick in hits and and BA was because of SDS...... never thought about that view of it. I am going to switch as well for the second half of the season. Curious if you noticed a lower ERA and Im sure WHIP due to the change as well?
                Really wish sports games played to ratings!
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                • Gtl420
                  Rookie
                  • Feb 2016
                  • 347

                  #593
                  Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

                  I’ve been using these with the 7/6 fastball/ off speed but was wondering if I do increase to 8/7 does the speed appear faster to the cpu batters as well?


                  Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports

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                  • forme95
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 3118

                    #594
                    Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

                    Originally posted by Gtl420
                    I’ve been using these with the 7/6 fastball/ off speed but was wondering if I do increase to 8/7 does the speed appear faster to the cpu batters as well?


                    Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
                    No. It is purely a visual aide. It has no slider effect on gameplay.

                    Sent from my SM-G986U using Tapatalk
                    Really wish sports games played to ratings!
                    Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
                    CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
                    MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
                    Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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                    • Doyoueven85
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2020
                      • 316

                      #595
                      Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

                      Originally posted by JoshC1977
                      With my 'gut' telling me that I am likely going to stick with MLB20 for franchise mode for quite a while; I thought I would go ahead and keep things going here.

                      In the last slider update I posted (back in October) I lowered the fielding speed and fielding reaction sliders down to 4. I'm going to ballpark that I've played around 50 games or so at these settings. If I focus on individual animations; yes, they do typically look a little 'cleaner' at times. But, when I look holistically at the overall game environment, something just doesn't quite balance-out. In short, there's just way too many hits the fall into the gaps, too many little dribblers that get past defenders. Even if the slider changes only directly impact the outcome of 2-3 ABs per game; that can have a pretty dramatic impact on pitcher confidence, which can then devolve into more and more hits.

                      I'm not a huge "stat guy" with my video games; but it's hard for even me to ignore it when my team batting average has shot up from the .250s to the .280s (and it's definitely been this way on the CPU offensive side). I've also seen a number of contact-oriented guys with contact ratings in the 70s (but low power) hit close to or over .300...with big spikes (like .320s/.330s) since the change. I'd much prefer those guys to be more in the .270s - .280s. If you think about it, a contact rating of 60 is considered to be "league average"....in that context, seeing guys with contact in the 70s pretty consistently running up into the .300s doesn't quite make sense (and I have enough of a sample size that I feel it isn't "noise" in the data).

                      Some people might say "then lower the contact slider"...but then, you're just adding more complexity than is needed. Now you begin impacting the duel between pitcher and batter; and I genuinely like where we are with it right now. The big thing to me is lowering that BABIP (which we unfortunately cannot easily track - but it feels a bit too high for my taste). So, the "right move" for me is to revert those two fielding sliders (speed and reaction) back to default. The funny thing is that I went through this same process last year...vouching hard for default for a long while, switching to 4/4, and then reverting it back.

                      So yes, I'm going to revert the OP back to defaults. While the lower sliders help 'stretch' the fielding rating a bit (which is good); it's condensing the hitting ratings a fair bit more (which is not good). I'm going to 'take the hit' on the fielding side for the sake of a little better balance.
                      I couldn’t agree more with this post. I absolutely agree that keeping reaction and fielder speed at default is the answer. A perfect example is my cardinals franchise last year. After switching from default everything to this set my team went from 20th in the majors in runs scored to tenth. And then when the recommendation was to switch to 4/4 for the mentioned sliders the team went from tenth to second in runs scored. Home runs were very accurate but the sheer number of hits and especially doubles and triples went through the roof.

                      Now since changing the mentioned sliders back to default, yes I get the “Oh come on” reaction when smoking a ball and having some fielder run it down that before would most likely have been a hit before. But it’s better than a.250 career hitter competing for a batting title every year.

                      I had also battled myself with pitch speed for nearly two franchise seasons. I’m also not a big stat guy but when you have stats that are just eye popping I have to look at them. I had almost never ran into a situation where a pitcher was just blowing me away. In fact it seemed like the harder they threw the better I hit. I couldn’t remember the last time I faced a starter that punched me out eight plus times. So I switched to 8/7 pitch speed. It took some time to get used to but it gave me the results I was looking for.

                      I’m not buying a PS5 anytime soon. And I don’t see any reason to buy the new version of this game without the new console. I found a sick roster set for the 21 season you can play on the 20 edition of the show. I’m going to stick with these sliders. Thanks for your continued work on this set!

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                      • bryanm1982
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2016
                        • 3786

                        #596
                        Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

                        Originally posted by Doyoueven85
                        I couldn’t agree more with this post. I absolutely agree that keeping reaction and fielder speed at default is the answer. A perfect example is my cardinals franchise last year. After switching from default everything to this set my team went from 20th in the majors in runs scored to tenth. And then when the recommendation was to switch to 4/4 for the mentioned sliders the team went from tenth to second in runs scored. Home runs were very accurate but the sheer number of hits and especially doubles and triples went through the roof.

                        Now since changing the mentioned sliders back to default, yes I get the “Oh come on” reaction when smoking a ball and having some fielder run it down that before would most likely have been a hit before. But it’s better than a.250 career hitter competing for a batting title every year.

                        I had also battled myself with pitch speed for nearly two franchise seasons. I’m also not a big stat guy but when you have stats that are just eye popping I have to look at them. I had almost never ran into a situation where a pitcher was just blowing me away. In fact it seemed like the harder they threw the better I hit. I couldn’t remember the last time I faced a starter that punched me out eight plus times. So I switched to 8/7 pitch speed. It took some time to get used to but it gave me the results I was looking for.

                        I’m not buying a PS5 anytime soon. And I don’t see any reason to buy the new version of this game without the new console. I found a sick roster set for the 21 season you can play on the 20 edition of the show. I’m going to stick with these sliders. Thanks for your continued work on this set!
                        What roster set did you go with? I’m thinking about starting one up now that most of the free agents have a home.
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                        • Doyoueven85
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2020
                          • 316

                          #597
                          Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

                          Originally posted by bryanm1982
                          What roster set did you go with? I’m thinking about starting one up now that most of the free agents have a home.
                          I went with,

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                          It’s in the vault and he has a large thread about them on the roster section of this site.

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                          • Genesio1
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2019
                            • 109

                            #598
                            Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

                            Josh,
                            See your having fun with ATL Fictional Franchize. Great read! I have a question in regards to cameras. So I switched up and went from Dynamic to outfield (pitching) and I was getting smoked... Used it for about 30-40 games in my franchise. Then I switched back to Dynamic and realized I was getting better results. Now I know this is all about preference and look. But is it possible the game plays different when switching between. I mean I don’t want to feel like I’m cheating the cpu. Sort of like the cameras for hitting like zone not being used because it gives the hitter (user) an advantage. Sorry if the question sounds ridiculous I’m just curious if you have heard or run into anything like this or perhaps it’s all in my head 🤷🏻*♂️. Thanks in advance.

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                            • Genesio1
                              Rookie
                              • Apr 2019
                              • 109

                              #599
                              Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

                              Originally posted by Genesio1
                              Josh,
                              See your having fun with ATL Fictional Franchize. Great read! I have a question in regards to cameras. So I switched up and went from Dynamic to outfield (pitching) and I was getting smoked... Used it for about 30-40 games in my franchise. Then I switched back to Dynamic and realized I was getting better results. Now I know this is all about preference and look. But is it possible the game plays different when switching between. I mean I don’t want to feel like I’m cheating the cpu. Sort of like the cameras for hitting like zone not being used because it gives the hitter (user) an advantage. Sorry if the question sounds ridiculous I’m just curious if you have heard or run into anything like this or perhaps it’s all in my head 🤷🏻*♂️. Thanks in advance.
                              Also would appreciate any feedback from anyone else here on the forum. Thanks guys!

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                              • Doyoueven85
                                Rookie
                                • Aug 2020
                                • 316

                                #600
                                Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

                                Originally posted by Genesio1
                                Also would appreciate any feedback from anyone else here on the forum. Thanks guys!
                                I’ve always pitched from the same camera I hit with. I doubt it gives me any advantage of any kind. It’s certainly a user’s preference. There’s some things you have to just decided on yourself and camera angles is typically one of those things.

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