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  • tc020791
    MVP
    • Sep 2010
    • 2012

    #76
    JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

    Originally posted by Thenaturual787
    I understand, and I like that because I hate constantly tinkering with sliders. But if default completely eliminates a certain type of batted ball then adjustments would be required.


    I’ve seen plenty of choppers and bloopers on default AS. If you’re not seeing them from yourself then you probably need to up your pitch speeds to mess your timing up. Also make sure you have your pitch speeds offset by 1 as Josh suggests, that will also keep you off balance. For example, if you have Fastball Speed at 7, you should have Off Speed at 6. For the CPU, in order to get a great hit variety from them, you have maker sure your pitching to all 4 quadrants. A lot of bloop singles happen when the batter gets jammed but you rarely see users pitching the CPU inside.

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    • Thenaturual787
      Rookie
      • Mar 2020
      • 16

      #77
      Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

      Originally posted by tc020791
      I’ve seen plenty of choppers and bloopers on default AS. If you’re not seeing them from yourself then you probably need to up your pitch speeds to mess your timing up. Also make sure you have your pitch speeds offset by 1 as Josh suggests, that will also keep you off balance. For example, if you have Fastball Speed at 7, you should have Off Speed at 6. For the CPU, in order to get a great hit variety from them, you have maker sure your pitching to all 4 quadrants. A lot of bloop singles happen when the batter gets jammed but you rarely see users pitching the CPU inside.
      I am currently using the default with pitch speeds at 7/6. However there are no choppers or bloopers. Jammed pitchers are still coming off the bat with far too much velocity.

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      • Frost33
        Rookie
        • Sep 2006
        • 291

        #78
        Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

        I've never used classic pitching, I've always been a fan of the meter. After only 2 games I'm really loving it. Auto fielding is awesome to watch, but I'm having a hard time not being in control.

        My biggest issue so far is hitting. In 2 games (yes, very limited sample size I know) I have 9 hits and 8 of those have been home runs. I came to this slider set because I couldn't hit home runs, now thats all I hit. Any suggestions on slider adjustments to have a balance with hits vs hrs.

        A quick question. I've never used directional hitting. So do you only hold left and right when you want to hit that way? Also, I pretty much only use X for hitting. Is that correct?

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        • tc020791
          MVP
          • Sep 2010
          • 2012

          #79
          JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

          Originally posted by Thenaturual787
          I am currently using the default with pitch speeds at 7/6. However there are no choppers or bloopers. Jammed pitchers are still coming off the bat with far too much velocity.


          If you can consistently get out in front of fastballs inside you need to up your pitch speeds then. Or move up to HOF. Also try being patient every once in awhile and go the other way instead of trying to pull everything.

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          • Thenaturual787
            Rookie
            • Mar 2020
            • 16

            #80
            Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

            Originally posted by tc020791
            If you can consistently get out in front of fastballs inside you need to up your pitch speeds then. Or move up to HOF. Also try being patient every once in awhile and go the other way instead of trying to pull everything.
            I cant, my timing isnt that great at all. What I am saying is at default "weak contact" balls are still easy fly balls to the outfield, just the same as "good contact" ones. There are no bloops at all.

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            • JoshC1977
              All Star
              • Dec 2010
              • 11564

              #81
              Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

              Originally posted by Thenaturual787
              I cant, my timing isnt that great at all. What I am saying is at default "weak contact" balls are still easy fly balls to the outfield, just the same as "good contact" ones. There are no bloops at all.
              I 100% disagree here.

              Not saying that isn't what you're seeing, but the batted ball variety have been fantastic in my experience.

              Make sure you're using the full breadth of your hitting options. So, use contact/power/normal swings at baseball-appropriate times...use the stick influence. If you're just pushing X...well...you're limiting the chess match a bit.

              If you still have issues....try lowering your timing slider one click (do NOT do this for the CPU...otherwise, you run the risk of nerfing their offense too much)
              Play the games you love, not the games you want to love.

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              • Thenaturual787
                Rookie
                • Mar 2020
                • 16

                #82
                Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

                Originally posted by JoshC1977
                I 100% disagree here.

                Not saying that isn't what you're seeing, but the batted ball variety have been fantastic in my experience.

                Make sure you're using the full breadth of your hitting options. So, use contact/power/normal swings at baseball-appropriate times...use the stick influence. If you're just pushing X...well...you're limiting the chess match a bit.

                If you still have issues....try lowering your timing slider one click (do NOT do this for the CPU...otherwise, you run the risk of nerfing their offense too much)
                What about solid hits? I feel like if I change timing, I will just be going oppo, the velocity off the bat is the problem. If I am way out in front of a curve it should be a chopper or a weak ground ball, but I see a regular ground ball the same as if I am on a fastball but pound it into the ground.

                I definitely use the stick and buttons at appropriate times. If we are both using AS default, theoretically we should be seeing very similar results, not vastly different ones, that confuses me.

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                • Jay Cee
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 229

                  #83
                  Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

                  How are y'all able to play with pitch display turned off? Half the time the cmera is panning around the stadium & I can't see the call plus for whatever reason holding right on the d pad plus holding r1 doesn't show the pitches.

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                  • JoshC1977
                    All Star
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 11564

                    #84
                    Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

                    Originally posted by Jay Cee
                    How are y'all able to play with pitch display turned off? Half the time the cmera is panning around the stadium & I can't see the call plus for whatever reason holding right on the d pad plus holding r1 doesn't show the pitches.
                    Go into the gameplay settings, presentation options, and then turn the pre-pitch camera to None.
                    Play the games you love, not the games you want to love.

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                    • JoshC1977
                      All Star
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 11564

                      #85
                      Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

                      Originally posted by Thenatural787
                      If we are both using AS default, theoretically we should be seeing very similar results, not vastly different ones, that confuses me.
                      Honest opinion, it sounds to me that you are either too comfortable with the pitch speed settings or too overwhelmed by them. Play around with it a bit.

                      I've been watching other people play with these settings and combined with my own experiences, I am just not seeing an issue here.

                      I'm not trying to be a pain in the butt....but I don't have any secondary validation for what you're seeing.
                      Play the games you love, not the games you want to love.

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                      • Thenaturual787
                        Rookie
                        • Mar 2020
                        • 16

                        #86
                        Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

                        Originally posted by JoshC1977
                        Honest opinion, it sounds to me that you are either too comfortable with the pitch speed settings or too overwhelmed by them. Play around with it a bit.

                        I've been watching other people play with these settings and combined with my own experiences, I am just not seeing an issue here.

                        I'm not trying to be a pain in the butt....but I don't have any secondary validation for what you're seeing.
                        I will try to take some videos for reference maybe that will help. I may also bump the pitch speeds up to 8/7 and see if I am incredibly overmatched, those sliders could very well be the culprit. Thanks.

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                        • halfbroke
                          Rookie
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 104

                          #87
                          Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

                          So, I am not a big The Show player due to the fact that I am PC mostly, but I used your sliders in Madden (non-sliders are still sliders) and figured I would give this a shot. Of course, I had to get used to the game in general being I haven't played a baseball game in years.

                          My timing was way quick early on so I set the pitching to 8/7 instead of 7/6, but everything else is spot on to your post. I am having a blast. Did a few tests and got the pitch speed right for myself and the game changed. Pitching feels organic and sim without the marker..batting feels the same and a great hit feels amazing when you get wood on it, and missing makes you feel like you're a dipstick. I need to become more patient, but that has nothing to do with sliders.

                          Last game was Baltimore (CPU) vs. Yanks (me). Had some great hits, but couldn't get offense going with Cole dominating most of the game. Bottom of the 9th with one out, score is 0-0, I come up in a big at bat with Sanchez and battled to a 2-2 count. Then I got his timing down, and cranked on FB he left hanging over the left field wall. It felt awesome.

                          Will be watching for any changes ya make, but honestly, unless a patch messes something up, don't see anything needed.
                          Last edited by halfbroke; 03-22-2020, 07:14 PM. Reason: mistake
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                          • JoshC1977
                            All Star
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 11564

                            #88
                            Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

                            So, as promised, I downloaded the Ridin roster tonight.

                            I ran a 15 year simulation where I controlled nothing. It honestly did really well, quite comparable to a normal SDS roster. The big difference this year is a slew more D potential players than in years past, which is what I've been preaching. lol.

                            There is a period around years 6-10 or so where teams are a bit inflated overall...by year 12-13 it begins to tone down as many current major leaguers get flushed out.

                            The only real "issue" I see is the SP stamina dropping a bit over time. But from my tests, even a 70 stamina pitcher can reach 5 innings on a regular basis and with the major league average start lasting 5.2 innings last year, I think it actually looks believable.

                            All that said, if you want a current year roster, I see no reason not to grab this one.
                            Play the games you love, not the games you want to love.

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                            • mcgreg1231
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 26

                              #89
                              Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

                              Hey Josh - do you suggest 30 team control for Franchise?

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                              • stormchaserck19
                                Pro
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 514

                                #90
                                Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

                                Originally posted by JoshC1977
                                So, as promised, I downloaded the Ridin roster tonight.

                                I ran a 15 year simulation where I controlled nothing. It honestly did really well, quite comparable to a normal SDS roster. The big difference this year is a slew more D potential players than in years past, which is what I've been preaching. lol.

                                There is a period around years 6-10 or so where teams are a bit inflated overall...by year 12-13 it begins to tone down as many current major leaguers get flushed out.

                                The only real "issue" I see is the SP stamina dropping a bit over time. But from my tests, even a 70 stamina pitcher can reach 5 innings on a regular basis and with the major league average start lasting 5.2 innings last year, I think it actually looks believable.

                                All that said, if you want a current year roster, I see no reason not to grab this one.
                                That's actually really good news for us RTTS players considering I'll probably play 10-15 years.
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