JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

[JoshC1977]

Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

Hey Josh,
I know you’re sliders for by ratings, what do you feel about the Cyc True Sim rosters that are set to come out? Would those rosters work with these or Armor’s sliders?

For this setup (which is default); they will adhere to whatever ratings are assigned by any roster (for better or worse). Whether the outcomes yield a high quality experience is solely on the rosters and how well they are designed.

[JoshC1977]

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Like you, I use the Retro batting camera. That has been my favorite batting camera view for a long time. Pitch speeds are currently 7/6 as you and Armor both employ, and the games I’ve played so far in 20 have been using the SCEA roster that was released on 3/20. I’ve played a few “Play Now” games, as well as some Franchise games. I haven’t written anything down, but I’d guess that across all the games I’ve played so far, the average number of combined dingers per game is probably around 8-9. I’d say it’s 50-50 that the home runs are accompanied by that new perfect contact bat crack audio (which is awesome by the way - it really makes you feel like you squared it up). One of the things that has stood out to me is the volume of home runs I’m giving up using Gerrit Cole. His HR/9 rating is 60, which isn’t great, but he’s consistently giving up 3-4 per start, and it seems like literally every mistake is being hit over the fence. There have been games where it seems like every batter that faces him either strikes out, walks, or goes deep. Haha. Much like the “three true outcomes” that people use to describe the modern game, but to a much greater degree. I’m totally open to the idea that I’m doing something wrong, but I’m playing the game the same way I do in 19, so I’m not sure what that could be. Anyway, hope that helps.


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HR/9 has no in-game impact...just FYI....


On a different note: have you played any games on 20 by carrying over your franchise from 19? If not, give that a whirl for a few games and see how it goes.

[GainzBro]

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HR/9 has no in-game impact...just FYI....


On a different note: have you played any games on 20 by carrying over your franchise from 19? If not, give that a whirl for a few games and see how it goes.

Just to butt in with my two cents I am playing a '19 carryover with SF and in spring training have had a very believable variety of homerun totals game-to-game for both myself and the cpu. I am however playing on HOF.

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[JoshC1977]

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Just to butt in with my two cents I am playing a '19 carryover with SF and in spring training have had a very believable variety of homerun totals game-to-game for both myself and the cpu. I am however playing on HOF.

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My carryover Reds franchise has been too....

So has my various games with Bacon's roster....

[Teleo]

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Josh - I know this isn’t a slider question but I’m asking because you may know the answer: Can you please explain the budget in a franchise like I’m 5 years old? I’ve researched YouTube for explanations but I can’t seem to find one that explains what I need. I’m the Yankees and I’m in April - I just resigned players that I wanted to - fired/hired scouts - purchased $20 in the Play Store for budget purposes but I don’t know who to correctly read how much cap I actually have - The Show is so different from 2K & Madden in this regard. Thank you & I hope that you & your family are doing well.

[JoshC1977]

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Josh - I know this isn’t a slider question but I’m asking because you may know the answer: Can you please explain the budget in a franchise like I’m 5 years old? I’ve researched YouTube for explanations but I can’t seem to find one that explains what I need. I’m the Yankees and I’m in April - I just resigned players that I wanted to - fired/hired scouts - purchased $20 in the Play Store for budget purposes but I don’t know who to correctly read how much cap I actually have - The Show is so different from 2K & Madden in this regard. Thank you & I hope that you & your family are doing well.

Eh....I'm not an expert here...but this is how I look at it. I'm not in front of the game, so I am going off of memory here....

Real life, you have a job, you make $1000 per week. You have bills, groceries, etc. that total $750 per week. So, you're left with $250 per week for other expenditures. Multiply that $1000 per week salary by 52 and your annual salary is $52000 per year (with $39000 bills/groceries and $13000 left over as "mad money").

MLB is similar. You have a weekly "salary" (which is the revenue that fluctuates based on attendance, sponsorships, and so on), you have expenses (players, scouts, coaches), and have your leftover "mad money" for other acquistions (which is referred to as the "cash flow" in-game).

So, say you sign a Free Agent to a $520000 contract. Over 52 weeks, that is $10000 per week against your "mad money" (i.e. cash flow). Scouts/coaches work the same way.

To keep the math simple, I use 50 as my multiplier/divisor.

[Teleo]

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Eh....I'm not an expert here...but this is how I look at it. I'm not in front of the game, so I am going off of memory here....

Real life, you have a job, you make $1000 per week. You have bills, groceries, etc. that total $750 per week. So, you're left with $250 per week for other expenditures. Multiply that $1000 per week salary by 52 and your annual salary is $52000 per year (with $39000 bills/groceries and $13000 left over as "mad money").

MLB is similar. You have a weekly "salary" (which is the revenue that fluctuates based on attendance, sponsorships, and so on), you have expenses (players, scouts, coaches), and have your leftover "mad money" for other acquistions (which is referred to as the "cash flow" in-game).

So, say you sign a Free Agent to a $520000 contract. Over 52 weeks, that is $10000 per week against your "mad money" (i.e. cash flow). Scouts/coaches work the same way.

To keep the math simple, I use 50 as my multiplier/divisor.

Josh - thank you for the explanation - I hired some very high end scouts because the Yankees scouts were horrible - hope I didn’t shoot myself in the foot on that one but I guess I could keep pumping $ into the Play Store for more funds - maaan - Now I really could feel like Steinbrenner - as long as I don’t go broke 🤦🏻*♂️

[GoBlue81188]

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Continuing to absolutely love this game and this set/play style. I’d say the 2nd part of my statement is the key one: follow the clean screen approach as MUCH as anything else you read here.

I’ll be posting my team stats after game 40 (currently at 23) for my Bacon Fictional Detroit Tigers.

Matchups and ratings are absolutely reigning supreme. It’s so rewarding to see something you may deem “unusual” and then deep diving on the ratings for each involved player. 999/1000- the ratings tell you the story.

I also consider variables that me, as the user, introduce.
For example: I challenge hitters... a lot. My staff is deep 1-5 with polished stuff, so unless the situation is so obvious- I’m going right at every guy.
As a result- I expect my pitcher BB/9 to be lower than average, and probably see my K/9 and HR/9 slightly increased.

Conversely as a hitter, I always feel like as a human we will K less often than AI, and of course walk less. With that said I can tell you I’m NOT currently dead last in BB’s, so it’s a start!

Let’s see what the stats show here soon, and see if that plays out.

[JoshC1977]

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Continuing to absolutely love this game and this set/play style. I’d say the 2nd part of my statement is the key one: follow the clean screen approach as MUCH as anything else you read here.

I’ll be posting my team stats after game 40 (currently at 23) for my Bacon Fictional Detroit Tigers.

Matchups and ratings are absolutely reigning supreme. It’s so rewarding to see something you may deem “unusual” and then deep diving on the ratings for each involved player. 999/1000- the ratings tell you the story.

I also consider variables that me, as the user, introduce.
For example: I challenge hitters... a lot. My staff is deep 1-5 with polished stuff, so unless the situation is so obvious- I’m going right at every guy.
As a result- I expect my pitcher BB/9 to be lower than average, and probably see my K/9 and HR/9 slightly increased.

Conversely as a hitter, I always feel like as a human we will K less often than AI, and of course walk less. With that said I can tell you I’m NOT currently dead last in BB’s, so it’s a start!

Let’s see what the stats show here soon, and see if that plays out.

Yeah, my experiences are very similar between my Reds carryover and my Braves franchise with Bacon's roster.

I've had everything from 1-0 games, to blowout wins/losses, to very "standard" 4-3 games. Probably the only thing I haven't seen much of is a genuine slugfest....but that's just a matter of time.

I've seen aces dominate, aces struggle, middling guys step up, poor defenders make great plays, great defenders make bad plays. The variety has just been off-the-charts for me.

[JoshC1977]

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I added the following to the 2nd post of this thread (which I will use for ancillary information):

Roster recommendations

This gets asked a lot. There is one I wholeheartedly endorse; Bacon's fictional roster.

I hear the grumbling now....but....but what about real players? I understand, I really do. Right now, I'm running a carryover save from MLB19 that used an SDS roster as the base to get my "real player" fix.

But where Bacon really elevates things is in terms of player variety. Throw out overall ratings and really look at how these guys are built. The ratings variety is absolutely crazy. There are studs for sure, but you really have to look at them closely and mix-match the guys on your roster (and for all the other teams in the league). So many little touches (like Catcher gear matching retro unis), some fantastic HR celebrations, some fantastic outlier players, etc.

Stock rosters are totally vanilla compared to these....

Tie the insane amount of variety into our approach with these sliders, and boy oh boy...you see some fantastic gameplay.

I know some folks are obsessed with "Realism"...and that is fine and dandy. But I want stories, I want players I grow to care about. I want to have fun. Give these a shot...pick a team and dive in... Can't decide on who to use? Use a random number generator to help you pick; I guarantee you will have fun.

[jrnlgrn]

Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

I added the following to the 2nd post of this thread (which I will use for ancillary information):

Roster recommendations

This gets asked a lot. There is one I wholeheartedly endorse; Bacon's fictional roster.

I hear the grumbling now....but....but what about real players? I understand, I really do. Right now, I'm running a carryover save from MLB19 that used an SDS roster as the base to get my "real player" fix.

But where Bacon really elevates things is in terms of player variety. Throw out overall ratings and really look at how these guys are built. The ratings variety is absolutely crazy. There are studs for sure, but you really have to look at them closely and mix-match the guys on your roster (and for all the other teams in the league). So many little touches (like Catcher gear matching retro unis), some fantastic HR celebrations, some fantastic outlier players, etc.

Stock rosters are totally vanilla compared to these....

Tie the insane amount of variety into our approach with these sliders, and boy oh boy...you see some fantastic gameplay.

I know some folks are obsessed with "Realism"...and that is fine and dandy. But I want stories, I want players I grow to care about. I want to have fun. Give these a shot...pick a team and dive in... Can't decide on who to use? Use a random number generator to help you pick; I guarantee you will have fun.

Bacon's Roster have been a game changer. I haven't even loaded up my Mariners save from last year. It's really freeing going in blind all the baggage that comes with knowing how teams/players should be performing is gone.

On a slider note the game is playing amazing. The base gameplay is pretty good and two subtle changes make it great.

[JoshC1977]

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Just getting the word out.

DO NOT INSTALL TODAY'S PATCH!!!

A bug was introduced that removes the base-running interface when you're on defense and using auto-fielding. So, you literally can't see what the CPU is doing on the base paths.

[Rmiok222]

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Just getting the word out.



DO NOT INSTALL TODAY'S PATCH!!!



A bug was introduced that removes the base-running interface when you're on defense and using auto-fielding. So, you literally can't see what the CPU is doing on the base paths.

Wow. I read this just before I turned my ps4 on. Unplugging my router now.


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[JoshC1977]

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Wow. I read this just before I turned my ps4 on. Unplugging my router now.


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Cool....at least it saved one person

(Armor has also indicated that they are looking to fix this....along with the 'blue halo of death')

[soonermagic75]

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What about us manual field & throw guys? Can we download it?


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