JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

[JoshC1977]

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Hey Josh - do you suggest 30 team control for Franchise?

I don’t use it but you’re welcome to do so if that’s your thing.

I just let things happen as they happen. Crazy stuff happens in real life and if it does in my franchise, so be it.

[Genesio1]

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So I’m playing the the Blue Jays and I can say this has been the most frustrating and rewarding experience of playing MLB the show. I have been on two losing streaks already of 5 games and 3. I traded one win one loss as well on two more occasions. An I have won a few games straight as well. I have blown out a team in back to back games KC and then lost 9-1 to Minnesota who hit 4 homers in our game against me. I lead the league in homers given up and I’m second to last in the AL in runs given up. I have the homer leader in Gurriel. Vladdy Jr has been a big disappointment so far as well as Biggio. But Bichette. Leading off he is on fire right now with back to back games with 6 and 4 rbis respectfully. I have lost a starting pitcher and reliever each for 1 to 2 weeks so I’m getting a little bit of everything. I switched back from strike zone 3 to retro and sometimes it’s rough goings but when I get hot it’s a pretty thing to watch. Directional hitting is definitely a necessity if anyone doesn’t know Josh recommendation of reading up the post of Warmwind I think it is excuse me if I’m wrong.... It’s all true. Anyone struggling be more patient. You going to have good days and bad. But so far I’m telling you after playing 2K nba and coming back over to mlb the show 20. It’s like night and day. I realize it’s two different titles but making the game playable and enjoyable with a lot of frustrating situations is what I’m looking for in a game. I want to win and I want to lose. I’m not looking for anything too easy or anything impossible. I want balance and Josh your sliders are doing that for me right now! Thank you sir and good day!

[BigAl_6992]

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Hey Josh

Not trying to clutter the thread. Are these posted to the vault? Also, could they work with zone hitting? I've been trying directional but just can't get the hang of it. Other than that I love the clean screen approach that you and Armor promote. So much more fun and rewarding.

[JoshC1977]

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Hey Josh

Not trying to clutter the thread. Are these posted to the vault? Also, could they work with zone hitting? I've been trying directional but just can't get the hang of it. Other than that I love the clean screen approach that you and Armor promote. So much more fun and rewarding.

It's default with pitch speed changes.....no, not posting them

[BigAl_6992]

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It's default with pitch speed changes.....no, not posting them

Fair enough LOL. Thoughts on using zone hitting vs directional?

[JoshC1977]

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Fair enough LOL. Thoughts on using zone hitting vs directional?

Zone hitting is antithetical to the tenants of this thread and will have deleterious consequences.

Translated: it's too user-input based to maximize ratings. I highly discourage the use of that interface unless you are playing on legend with all visual aids (including PCI) turned off.

[rhouserjr0614]

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Really enjoying these sliders. Started a franchise with Phillies, and the games feel natural and have been fun. Thanks Josh


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[VeseThesis]

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Hey Josh, huge fan of your sliders since last year. I started a franchise this year with Bacons rosters and after 10 games it is really good baseball. Some 2-1 games, as well as 6-5 games. A great mix of ground balls, liners, not too many K’s or HRs. Good baseball! Appreciate the work you do to keep things “real”. ✌🏼

[JoshC1977]

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Really enjoying these sliders. Started a franchise with Phillies, and the games feel natural and have been fun. Thanks Josh

Hey Josh, huge fan of your sliders since last year. I started a franchise this year with Bacons rosters and after 10 games it is really good baseball. Some 2-1 games, as well as 6-5 games. A great mix of ground balls, liners, not too many K’s or HRs. Good baseball! Appreciate the work you do to keep things “real”. ✌🏼

Appreciate the love guys....but man, we wouldn't be here if SDS had not come out with such a well-balanced game out of the box.

And for what it's worth, I am still constantly evaluating. I just move slower than many at making changes.

I'm going to begin a franchise tonight (not sure with whom) using Ridin's roster. SDS did a lot of nice ratings spreads (especially with defensive ratings) this year...I suspect they will compliment the default setup well. People running carryovers may have less of a spread and may need to adapt a couple of tweaks. I'll consider both scenarios....

[tc020791]

JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

BREAKING NEWS: 2021 WBC TO BE PLAYED WITH LIMITED FIELD DUE TO CORONAVIRUS OUTBREAK.






The usual field of 16 teams we’ve come accustomed to in the first 4 iterations of the IBAF’s World Baseball Classic, will only be 9 teams this year.


As we all know the CORONAVIRUS started way back in 2019. Now in 2021, the Western Hemisphere is striving once again and will have 7 teams at full strength in this year’s WBC. Those teams include the likes of the defending champions, the United States of America. As well as the Dominican Republic and Cuba, just to name a few. Unfortunately the Eastern Hemisphere was not so lucky. When teams began to realize they would not be able to field a starting 9, let alone a full squad, the IBAF needed to make a quick decision. They came to the conclusion that the Eastern Hemisphere would be represented by 2 teams. The first team would be a European based team. They determined the European team will play out of the Netherlands, where most of the team will be from. The European team will also include players from Italy, Germany, and Great Britain. The second Eastern Hemisphere team will be comprised of the best players from Asia, as well as Australia. This team will be represented out of Japan. Players on the Asian based team are from countries that include, but not limited to, S. Korea, Taiwan, and the Philippines.


The 2021 tournament will have the same format as 2017. There will be a round robin (or group stage) to start, followed by a single elimination semi-final and championship. There will be 3 groups this year rather than 4 due to the limited field. In the past, when there were 4 groups, each team played everyone in their group once, for a total of 3 games in group play. This year the teams will play everyone in their group twice, also known as a double round robin, playing 4 games total in group play. The top team from each group will move into the semi-finals automatically. The last semi-final spot will be the team with the next best remaining record. If there is a tie in records, the two teams will play a single elimination play-in for the 4th semi-final spot. Below are the groups, as well as the venues where they will be played.



Group A - Chase Field (ARZ)
USA
MEXICO
PUERTO RICO


Group B - New Globe Life (TEX)
ASIA
CUBA
EUROPE


Group C - T-Mobile Park (SEA)
VENEZUELA
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC
CANADA


Semi-Finals and Finals - Marlins Park (MIA)
TBD


*ALL GAMES PLAYED WITH JOSH’S SLIDERS (7/6 PITCH SPEEDS)
*ALL GAMES STREAMING LIVE ON TWITCH

https://www.twitch.tv/tc020791

[tc020791]

JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

Game 1, USA (me) throws a combined no-hitter against a Mexico team with a terrible lineup.

Game 2, Canada (me) gives up 2 home runs and 5 runs in the first 2 innings, and ends up losing 5-1.

Couldn’t have been two any more different games. Canada was playing against a stacked Venezuela team that had runners on base all game. I could really feel the difference in all 4 teams. Venezuela looks like they could give the US a real shot for the title. Their 2-3-4-5 is Acuna, Altuve, Suarez, Torres.

You can check out both the US/Mexico and Canada/Venezuela games on my twitch.

https://www.twitch.tv/tc020791

[Rmiok222]

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Hey josh. You’re the only slider maker on here that uses all star classic pitching like me so I figured I’d ask you this question.

Hypothetically if you were to give the cpu more “teeth” what would you adjust first? Up power by 1? Solid hits by 1?

I’m just about ready to start my franchise but I need the cpu to be a bit more of a threat. Thanks.


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[Detroit Tigers]

JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

User/CPU Starter Stamina 5
One note here. In 2019, the MLB average for pitches per start was 86. Over 75% of pitcher starts resulted in the pitcher throwing UNDER 100 pitches (and 25% of starts featured under 80 pitches).

Hi josh, much respect but I find these numbers completely irrelevant. This slider is about how many pitches a guy is *capable* of throwing before being gassed. It has nothing to do with how long a starter “should” be in the game. It’s a “pitch capacity” slider, not a quasi manager hook slider.

It’s absurd, totally absurd, that a guy with 86 stamina would be gassed after 90 pitches (and potentially even fewer), and that’s exactly what happens at 5.

86 stamina is like 86 strength or agility or offensive awareness - ie quite high, damn near elite. A guy being totally gassed after 86 pitches is something I would expect out of guy with like 68 stamina. 86 stamina pitchers should be more than capable of throwing 100+ pitches. High-risk? Yes. “Out of energy” after 90 pitches? Sometimes 85 pitches? Gimme a break.

Stamina at 7 is what I’ve been running for years and both myself and the AI still pull guys when they’re in the 75-85 pitch range. But if they’re running hot, they are more than capable of sniffing the 95-110 range, as is the IRL case. At 5, even guys like Verlander and Sale are totally gassed after like 90 pitches which is just silly. High-stamina guys like them should be able to touch 110-120 before running out of energy. “Average pitches per start league-wide” has almost nothing to do with anything.


For the record I’m at 100% default except for starter stamina, so I’m not some slider junkie here. Just my two cents. Cheers man, carry on.

[JoshC1977]

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Hi josh, much respect but I find these numbers completely irrelevant. This slider is about how many pitches a guy is *capable* of throwing before being gassed. It has nothing to do with how long a starter “should” be in the game. It’s a “pitch capacity” slider, not a quasi manager hook slider.

It’s absurd, totally absurd, that a guy with 86 stamina would be gassed after 90 pitches (and potentially even fewer), and that’s exactly what happens at 5.

86 stamina is like 86 strength or agility or offensive awareness - ie quite high, damn near elite. A guy being totally gassed after 86 pitches is something I would expect out of guy with like 68 stamina. 86 stamina pitchers should be more than capable of throwing 100+ pitches. High-risk? Yes. “Out of energy” after 90 pitches? Sometimes 85 pitches? Gimme a break.

Stamina at 7 is what I’ve been running for years and both myself and the AI still pull guys when they’re in the 75-85 pitch range. But if they’re running hot, they are more than capable of sniffing the 95-110 range, as is the IRL case. At 5, even guys like Verlander and Sale are totally gassed after like 90 pitches which is just silly. High-stamina guys like them should be able to touch 110-120 before running out of energy. “Average pitches per start league-wide” has almost nothing to do with anything.


For the record I’m at 100% default except for starter stamina, so I’m not some slider junkie here. Just my two cents. Cheers man, carry on.

That's fine...except, I still see high stamina pitchers hit 100+ pitches (I had Cole hit 114 last night) with it at 5 and he still had some juice left...and that was on OPENING DAY (where pitchers don't last as long). Pitchers in real life don't suddenly just get tired at 100 pitches....they start slowing down 15-20 pitches before that point (I know you know that....just saying). On top of that, I see 70 stamina guys hit 90+ pitches routinely if they aren't smacked around.

FWIW, I was at a stamina value last year of 6 and it worked well. I'm just still collecting data here...not adverse to a change and it is the one value I am closely monitoring and if I stray from default on any setting this year, this will be the one.


Edit: and can I ask a question? How many games have you played on this game with default stamina sliders?

[JoshC1977]

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Hey josh. You’re the only slider maker on here that uses all star classic pitching like me so I figured I’d ask you this question.

Hypothetically if you were to give the cpu more “teeth” what would you adjust first? Up power by 1? Solid hits by 1?

I’m just about ready to start my franchise but I need the cpu to be a bit more of a threat. Thanks.


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Use the Baltimore pitching staff like I am (I got bombed for 8 runs...in the 1st inning...on Opening Day - still finishing the game...but I had given up 12 runs as of the 6th).

Even when using really good major-league caliber pitchers, I haven't seen offensive issues AT ALL for the CPU. But, maybe you're a little more 'careful' than I am. If you want to toy with something, the first change I would consider is to bump up CPU timing to 6.