JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

[tc020791]

Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

Going to give these tweaks a go on stream if anyone wants to check them out.

https://www.twitch.tv/tc020791

[Armor and Sword]

Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

I agree with everything you said, but there's one thing you missed (at least IMO).

You HAVE to be willing to attack hitters and be efficient (guess I'm from the Greg Maddux school of pitching, lol). That means throwing quality strikes in the zone EARLY in the count. On All Star in particular, this is vital as the CPU is measured in their approach to ABs (and even moreso - which I love - with the User Control at 6). Once you get that nice blend of early in-zone strikes and borderline pitches, it cascades from there and you see a ton of variety from the CPU...they'll swing more at strikes in the zone instead of waiting for you to walk them (as they will if you just nibble). This is when the batter vs hitter ratings begin to really shine.

Since I made the change to the user control slider, I'm giving up more hits, more walks, and more runs WITHOUT it relying on random outcomes - which is precisely what I was looking for.

Well that is what I meant by stating "attacking with the fastball and getting ahead in counts”.

I played with human control on 6 last cycle....but on HOF I have not found the need for it. At least not so far LOL.

[JoshC1977]

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Well that is what I meant by stating "attacking with the fastball and getting ahead in counts”.

I played with human control on 6 last cycle....but on HOF I have not found the need for it. At least not so far LOL.

LOL...I totally missed that line

Yeah, it's not needed on AS either...but it's made it a little more mentally challenging, which I like a lot.

[huskerz09]

Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

This might sound weird to some...but I try to focus on just playing the game vs going all-out to win it. My enjoyment is derived from being a part of the story not from ringing-up a W. Doesn't mean that I don't play hard...but I also don't play with an intensity to "win at all costs". BTW...I'm not saying that it's a bad thing either...but if you've got that mindset, I think you'll find many of the things I do with the sliders and my approach may not quite jive with your needs.

To me, it all boils down to one question: why do you play the game? (that answer will point you in the direction you need to go in)

Right there with you. I lose A LOT in the different games I play due to playing pretty simple. Simple playbooks in NCAA and Madden (plays I know the CPU can defend well) and minimal user input (don't touch anything on defense in those games, simulate field goals).

I'm fairly new to the Show (got it late in the '18 cycle) and I don't think I've found that style yet. Played on default hall of fame hitting (always directional with no visuals) and legend pitching (meter). Those defaults weren't a fit for me this year, so I touched sliders for the first time on this game with Armor's. Pitch speeds at 7/6 were too much for me on HOF, dropped them to 6/5 which caused breaking balls to loop too much, so I came to your set since I've used yours often for other games. Glad I did because I'm really, really close to the experience I want. Hitting is simply awesome and I can see the potential for CPU success when I'm pitching. Classic over meter definitely fits my style better, but I think the tendencies I developed on meter have carried over, because I know how far to press the stick to get desirable placement. Been following the catcher's calls more often to limit my user input.

Testing more with human control at 6, lost the first game today 2-1 to the Padres using the Braves with Bacon's roster. As you mentioned his roster is perfect for this "set".

[JoshC1977]

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Been following the catcher's calls more often to limit my user input..

I personally ignore the catcher. I sometimes feel like they "know" what will fool the hitter (like at a game-coding level)...I can't imagine that this would be the case but...I don't know...it never quite feels right to me to when I let my catcher call the game.

Here's the thing. If you're limiting yourself here because it's more "immersive" for you to let your catcher call the game, ok, I can see that. If you're doing it to possibly make it harder...don't do that; let's find other ways. We shouldn't have to reign-in the mental side of the game when we play (yes, limit user stick skills' influence but we still should let our minds be the "AI" of the team/players we control).

It's 100% your call....but I definitely have strong feelings about it (depending on your motivation).

[JoshC1977]

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One thing I cannot stress enough....TURN OFF VIBRATION!

Vibration on makes it WAY too easy to paint corners and throw strikes. Turn that crap off!

That is all...carry on

[TopSide83]

Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

One thing I cannot stress enough....TURN OFF VIBRATION!

Vibration on makes it WAY too easy to paint corners and throw strikes. Turn that crap off!

That is all...carry on

I totally agree with you on this. Vibration totally handcuffs my abilities too. Seems like I always want to throw in the zone when I have it turned on.

[GoBlue81188]

Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

One thing I cannot stress enough....TURN OFF VIBRATION!

Vibration on makes it WAY too easy to paint corners and throw strikes. Turn that crap off!

That is all...carry on

What idiot forgot vibration!?!?

[JoshC1977]

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What idiot forgot vibration!?!?

I refuse to name names [emoji3]


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[trusaleen1]

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I see you have Dynamic Difficulty Sensitivity as N/A for the sliders. Mine still shows on the slider screen, should it be at zero or in the middle at 5? Is there a way to confirm that Dynamic Difficulty is off? (specifically for Franchise)

Thanks!

[JoshC1977]

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I see you have Dynamic Difficulty Sensitivity as N/A for the sliders. Mine still shows on the slider screen, should it be at zero or in the middle at 5? Is there a way to confirm that Dynamic Difficulty is off? (specifically for Franchise)

Thanks!

If your difficulty is set to All Star, you're good to go.

[bryanm1982]

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Josh, I have been using meter lately because it feels like I can strike out hitters and I’m still giving up walks. But I feel bad using it because it isn’t purely ratings based. Because with meter you can miss your release point and hang a slider. But wouldn’t that be the same for classic? Since you get different results depending on how long you hold the button? If you hold it too long it can affect the pitch as well. I’m debating on going back to classic pitching.

[GrantF330]

Thanks in advance for responding

So... the game has gotten better but I have gotten WORSE!!! For some reason I’m impatient and just can’t hit.
So I have left the settings alone for the most part according to the OP.... but because I’m so terrible at hitting I’m now down from All-Star to Rookie hitting. I left pitching on All -Star I. I am constantly EARLY on pitches so I lowered Fastball speed to 6 and raised off speed to 7 ... even on ROOKIE I’m slacking ....
but let me ASK ... by lowering hitting to rookie does that make it easier for the CPU??? And should I be ok with the pitch speed???? Or should I put it back. I don’t want it make the game easy but I don’t wanna suck either

[KCRoyals]

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How does this slider set do with cpu vs. cpu? I like to take my Franchise Stars roster and set up the playoffs. Then I watch the games.

KCRoyals

[JoshC1977]

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Josh, I have been using meter lately because it feels like I can strike out hitters and I’m still giving up walks. But I feel bad using it because it isn’t purely ratings based. Because with meter you can miss your release point and hang a slider. But wouldn’t that be the same for classic? Since you get different results depending on how long you hold the button? If you hold it too long it can affect the pitch as well. I’m debating on going back to classic pitching.

My biggest qualm with meter (other than that grotesque abomination on the screen) is that it is too precise if your muscle memory is good enough. I'm both walking and striking out a ton of batters with classic on the current setup. It all depends on who I have pitching for me. But you have to approach your ABs in a realistic manner and be willing to walk guys. Meter will allow your muscle memory (or lack thereof) to shine through...classic will allow your mental skills (and the ratings) to shine through.

How does this slider set do with cpu vs. cpu? I like to take my Franchise Stars roster and set up the playoffs. Then I watch the games.

KCRoyals

Honestly KC....I just don't know. Typically, CPU v CPU games are underpowered scoring-wise. You're probably better off sticking with default and rolling from there. But let's see if anyone else is running them using this setup.

So... the game has gotten better but I have gotten WORSE!!! For some reason I’m impatient and just can’t hit.
So I have left the settings alone for the most part according to the OP.... but because I’m so terrible at hitting I’m now down from All-Star to Rookie hitting. I left pitching on All -Star I. I am constantly EARLY on pitches so I lowered Fastball speed to 6 and raised off speed to 7 ... even on ROOKIE I’m slacking ....
but let me ASK ... by lowering hitting to rookie does that make it easier for the CPU??? And should I be ok with the pitch speed???? Or should I put it back. I don’t want it make the game easy but I don’t wanna suck either

Step 1. Breathe!! Step 2. Go back to default everything. Step 3, find a camera YOU like (don't listen to what anyone else tells you is better). Step 4. Go to dynamic difficulty and see where you land difficulty wise. Step 5. Practice, practice, practice.

Finally. NOBODY in the forums here can help you become more patient. There is no magic elixir that will make you more patient. You HAVE to learn that on your own. The bad news is that you suck at the game. The good news is that you can get better. But until you can get the core fundamentals down, spinning your wheels trying everyone ELSE'S approach to the game is just going to exacerbate your problems.