JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

[JoshC1977]

Re: JoshC1977's "Maximize Player Ratings" MLB 20 Sliders

Right, I wasn't asking so I can get help. I have a good plan with my teams. But I remembered last year you were doing this in an attempt to allow ratings to have more control over outcomes and I was curious of your findings.

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I mean, I never formally did anything like that. Some others have stated that opinion, but I don't agree with that per se.

Yes, neutral influence will put you more in the hands of the vision rating, but there is a 'chess match' that goes with selecting an influence and anticipating a pitcher's location. If I decide to pull the ball on a pitch, I'm essentially hedging my bets on the pitch being in an amenable location. That's more of a mental game...not one where a user's stick skills override things (like when using zone).

If you just hit influence-neutral....you're going to miss out on the variety a bit more. If I try to pull a pitch and it is outside, I might dribble it the opposite way; whereas if I am stick-neutral on that same pitch and with the same timing, I might hit it harder; if I am in a push swing, I might get a flare down the line. It's a mental game, and one I fully take advantage of.

[GainzBro]

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I mean, I never formally did anything like that. Some others have stated that opinion, but I don't agree with that per se.

Yes, neutral influence will put you more in the hands of the vision rating, but there is a 'chess match' that goes with selecting an influence and anticipating a pitcher's location. If I decide to pull the ball on a pitch, I'm essentially hedging my bets on the pitch being in an amenable location. That's more of a mental game...not one where a user's stick skills override things (like when using zone).

If you just hit influence-neutral....you're going to miss out on the variety a bit more. If I try to pull a pitch and it is outside, I might dribble it the opposite way; whereas if I am stick-neutral on that same pitch and with the same timing, I might hit it harder; if I am in a push swing, I might get a flare down the line. It's a mental game, and one I fully take advantage of.

Gotcha, I'm adapted really well to directional after about 250 games now and I've read WarmWind's guide a few times but I just like to talk hitting with other guys. Kinda like mlb players will irl when they cross paths. It's cool to get nuggets of wisdom from other pro's who can help you up your game.

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[JoshC1977]

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I'm 100% locked into the OP right now. I just can't justify changing anything...which is honestly a little surprising to me; I always seem to need to tweak something.

I started my 3rd franchise (this one with Bacon's roster). I think I'll be busy with this game for a while

[Teleo]

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I'm 100% locked into the OP right now. I just can't justify changing anything...which is honestly a little surprising to me; I always seem to need to tweak something.

I started my 3rd franchise (this one with Bacon's roster). I think I'll be busy with this game for a while

Josh - I’ve begun my Yankees franchise with your sliders - I have a question regarding the injury slider - Through discussions that you & Armor have - how did you land on the number of 5 for play and sim games? His is maxed out for playing games and 6 for sim - so I just wanted to know your conclusion - I know you don’t start too far from difficult as I use yours for Madden

[JoshC1977]

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Josh - I’ve begun my Yankees franchise with your sliders - I have a question regarding the injury slider - Through discussions that you & Armor have - how did you land on the number of 5 for play and sim games? His is maxed out for playing games and 6 for sim - so I just wanted to know your conclusion - I know you don’t start too far from difficult as I use yours for Madden

Honestly; it requires an insane amount of played games to get a good feel for the injury sliders. I don't want to see an injury every other game; I don't even want to see an injury per week. Let's say we average 2 per month...some months you might have none, maybe another you have 3-4. And that rate is going to vary based on the ratings of your players. But think about it...you could have no significant injuries for 2 months but still be right on a realistic pace. You could play 2 weeks of games with 4 or 5 and ultimately still be on the right pace. It's the ultimate in sample size problems.

Long story short....I HAVE seen injuries at default and I'm just going to roll with it. I'm also not big on changing sim settings (100% because I forget to swap them back and forth, lol).

You're more than welcome to adapt other approaches as you see fit - this isn't like Madden where changing the injury slider has a direct impact on gameplay.

[GainzBro]

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Honestly; it requires an insane amount of played games to get a good feel for the injury sliders. I don't want to see an injury every other game; I don't even want to see an injury per week. Let's say we average 2 per month...some months you might have none, maybe another you have 3-4. And that rate is going to vary based on the ratings of your players. But think about it...you could have no significant injuries for 2 months but still be right on a realistic pace. You could play 2 weeks of games with 4 or 5 and ultimately still be on the right pace. It's the ultimate in sample size problems.

Long story short....I HAVE seen injuries at default and I'm just going to roll with it. I'm also not big on changing sim settings (100% because I forget to swap them back and forth, lol).

You're more than welcome to adapt other approaches as you see fit - this isn't like Madden where changing the injury slider has a direct impact on gameplay.

I'm patiently waiting on adjusting the injury slider. I have it at 6 and 14 games into spring training I have only 1 injury in the entire league. But I'm going to ride it out.
Also have trade slider at 7 for spring and no trades yet. Again I'll just wait patiently.

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[Teleo]

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Honestly; it requires an insane amount of played games to get a good feel for the injury sliders. I don't want to see an injury every other game; I don't even want to see an injury per week. Let's say we average 2 per month...some months you might have none, maybe another you have 3-4. And that rate is going to vary based on the ratings of your players. But think about it...you could have no significant injuries for 2 months but still be right on a realistic pace. You could play 2 weeks of games with 4 or 5 and ultimately still be on the right pace. It's the ultimate in sample size problems.

Long story short....I HAVE seen injuries at default and I'm just going to roll with it. I'm also not big on changing sim settings (100% because I forget to swap them back and forth, lol).

You're more than welcome to adapt other approaches as you see fit - this isn't like Madden where changing the injury slider has a direct impact on gameplay.

Thank you Josh - I play the game CPU vs CPU - helps me to do other things - absolutely love this game! Went 11 innings in game 2 to the Orioles and won 2-0...really looking forward to this franchise! Be safe out there

[bravesfan1984]

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I'm patiently waiting on adjusting the injury slider. I have it at 6 and 14 games into spring training I have only 1 injury in the entire league. But I'm going to ride it out.
Also have trade slider at 7 for spring and no trades yet. Again I'll just wait patiently.

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I just played game one of my season and lost Camargo for 2-3 months with a broken hand. LAA lost Simmons to a broken shin. This was default.

[bryanm1982]

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I noticed this year that the CPU will get injured during the game. I never had that in last year’s game.

[KingOfLanglade]

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I mean, I never formally did anything like that. Some others have stated that opinion, but I don't agree with that per se.



Yes, neutral influence will put you more in the hands of the vision rating, but there is a 'chess match' that goes with selecting an influence and anticipating a pitcher's location. If I decide to pull the ball on a pitch, I'm essentially hedging my bets on the pitch being in an amenable location. That's more of a mental game...not one where a user's stick skills override things (like when using zone).



If you just hit influence-neutral....you're going to miss out on the variety a bit more. If I try to pull a pitch and it is outside, I might dribble it the opposite way; whereas if I am stick-neutral on that same pitch and with the same timing, I might hit it harder; if I am in a push swing, I might get a flare down the line. It's a mental game, and one I fully take advantage of.

I agree with this, and take it step further. I usually get a good understanding of each of my hitter’s spray patterns and understand which guys pull everything, slap everything, or have true contact to all fields. Same applies for fly ball/ground ball hitters. That way I still feel I am true to who a hitter really is by directionally trying to hit most pitches to the field the player prefers.

[JoshC1977]

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I'm patiently waiting on adjusting the injury slider. I have it at 6 and 14 games into spring training I have only 1 injury in the entire league. But I'm going to ride it out.
Also have trade slider at 7 for spring and no trades yet. Again I'll just wait patiently.

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As far as trades...they are rare in ST unless you have a crap roster....and even then it is rare.

I usually adopt some version of Armor's trade sliders, but since I am in April across all three of my franchises, I haven't dug that deep yet.

[monteith]

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Hey Josh. So I switched over to your sliders from Armor’s on 19. I wasn’t quite ready to make the jump to HOF. Anyway, 19 has been awesome. While I’m having a lot of success in my Yankees franchise, the games are all realistic and enjoyable. Moving into 20, like a lot of others apparently, I’m seeing a huge uptick in power so far. Small sample size not withstanding, I’ve had quite a few games with combined HR totals in double-digits. This seems like it should be the exception, not the rule. I even tried bumping up to HOF and the score was 10-4 at the end of the first inning. LOL. I know that playing with the Yankees is part of it, but the trend I’m seeing is taking some of the enjoyment out of it. I’ve temporarily gone back to 19 hoping that there will either be a patch that addresses this, or that someone will figure out a slider adjustment that doesn’t break something else. Anyway, all that to say, do you have any new thoughts or suggestions on the subject? Thanks.

[JoshC1977]

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Hey Josh. So I switched over to your sliders from Armor’s on 19. I wasn’t quite ready to make the jump to HOF. Anyway, 19 has been awesome. While I’m having a lot of success in my Yankees franchise, the games are all realistic and enjoyable. Moving into 20, like a lot of others apparently, I’m seeing a huge uptick in power so far. Small sample size not withstanding, I’ve had quite a few games with combined HR totals in double-digits. This seems like it should be the exception, not the rule. I even tried bumping up to HOF and the score was 10-4 at the end of the first inning. LOL. I know that playing with the Yankees is part of it, but the trend I’m seeing is taking some of the enjoyment out of it. I’ve temporarily gone back to 19 hoping that there will either be a patch that addresses this, or that someone will figure out a slider adjustment that doesn’t break something else. Anyway, all that to say, do you have any new thoughts or suggestions on the subject? Thanks.

I have honestly not had ANY issues with HRs....other than my craptastic O's giving up a few to the Yanks in the first series. Early in the season, my numbers for my Reds carryover are actually quite a bit lower than last year.

Can you give me any more details about how you play? Like what batting camera you use, what pitch speed settings, rosters you've used, etc.?

[monteith]

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I have honestly not had ANY issues with HRs....other than my craptastic O's giving up a few to the Yanks in the first series. Early in the season, my numbers for my Reds carryover are actually quite a bit lower than last year.

Can you give me any more details about how you play? Like what batting camera you use, what pitch speed settings, rosters you've used, etc.?

Like you, I use the Retro batting camera. That has been my favorite batting camera view for a long time. Pitch speeds are currently 7/6 as you and Armor both employ, and the games I’ve played so far in 20 have been using the SCEA roster that was released on 3/20. I’ve played a few “Play Now” games, as well as some Franchise games. I haven’t written anything down, but I’d guess that across all the games I’ve played so far, the average number of combined dingers per game is probably around 8-9. I’d say it’s 50-50 that the home runs are accompanied by that new perfect contact bat crack audio (which is awesome by the way - it really makes you feel like you squared it up). One of the things that has stood out to me is the volume of home runs I’m giving up using Gerrit Cole. His HR/9 rating is 60, which isn’t great, but he’s consistently giving up 3-4 per start, and it seems like literally every mistake is being hit over the fence. There have been games where it seems like every batter that faces him either strikes out, walks, or goes deep. Haha. Much like the “three true outcomes” that people use to describe the modern game, but to a much greater degree. I’m totally open to the idea that I’m doing something wrong, but I’m playing the game the same way I do in 19, so I’m not sure what that could be. Anyway, hope that helps.


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[bryanm1982]

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Hey Josh,
I know you’re sliders for by ratings, what do you feel about the Cyc True Sim rosters that are set to come out? Would those rosters work with these or Armor’s sliders?