S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

[DarthRambo]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

Basically it was but I made the contact higher than the solid hits so it basically was 6/4/5 so its basically the same philosophy. The higher contact evens out my good pitching so the CPU hits like a true MLB team.



Im sticking with that set up for now. Its right in line with the slider set.

Yeah we had actually tested 6/4/5 for a while but just didn't mention anything until we felt we found something closer to what we want. That setup is really solid, I guess we still felt like the cpu was missing just a bit more pop. And the higher contact caused a bunch more foul offs.

We are pitching on AS+ though so for HOF it could be great! 6/4/5 or 5/4/6 either way is good. Power at 4 is definitely a lock unless you want homerun parties.

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[Fcshuckers73]

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Yeah we had actually tested 6/4/5 for a while but just didn't mention anything until we felt we found something closer to what we want. That setup is really solid, I guess we still felt like the cpu was missing just a bit more pop. And the higher contact caused a bunch more foul offs.

We are pitching on AS+ though so for HOF it could be great! 6/4/5 or 5/4/6 either way is good. Power at 4 is definitely a lock unless you want homerun parties.

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What sliders other than the CPU hitting are yall using? The OP exactly or other changes?

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[Head Coach]

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Yeah we had actually tested 6/4/5 for a while but just didn't mention anything until we felt we found something closer to what we want. That setup is really solid, I guess we still felt like the cpu was missing just a bit more pop. And the higher contact caused a bunch more foul offs.

We are pitching on AS+ though so for HOF it could be great! 6/4/5 or 5/4/6 either way is good. Power at 4 is definitely a lock unless you want homerun parties.

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You have just found the key my friend.

You have solved it.

If you are good at pitching or have a team like the Mets you need to increase the foul offs to make pitching harder and wear the pitcher down. THATS THE KEY.
Carrasco couldn't get out of the 5th that is what you would expect from him. He was decent but he got hit.

I had one epic at bat against Nolan Arenado where he went 10-11 pitches deep and fouled off several pitches.

The foul offs are what I need.

[DarthRambo]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

You have just found the key my friend.



You have solved it.



If you are good at pitching or have a team like the Mets you need to increase the foul offs to make pitching harder and wear the pitcher down. THATS THE KEY.

Carrasco couldn't get out of the 5th that is what you would expect from him. He was decent but he got hit.



I had one epic at bat against Nolan Arenado where he went 10-11 pitches deep and fouled off several pitches.



The foul offs are what I need.

As long as you feel like you are still getting the strikeouts you want then I'd say you're golden.

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[DarthRambo]

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What sliders other than the CPU hitting are yall using? The OP exactly or other changes?

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Cpu hitting: 5 contact, 4 power, 6 solid hits (5/4/6)
Human hitting: 5/4/5

Also for human control and consistency we are using 2/3 (AS+). For HOF you can try that or bump up to like 3/4 or whatever you want to try if you feel like you need it.

Bryan posted last night the adjustments we made after testing a bunch of different combinations. Not sure if he has updated the OP yet. Sorry for the confusion!

Edit- the 5/4/6 was tested for AS+ pitching and could prove to be a little much for HOF pitching. HC seems like he has found a sweet spot for HOF with 6/4/5 at least for him anyway. One of those, possibly either could work for you. Feedback is appreciated for those using HOF pitching! Thanks everyone

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[Fcshuckers73]

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Cpu hitting: 5 contact, 4 power, 6 solid hits (5/4/6)
Human hitting: 5/4/5

Also for human control and consistency we are using 2/3 (AS+). For HOF you can try that or bump up to like 3/4 or whatever you want to try if you feel like you need it.

Bryan posted last night the adjustments we made after testing a bunch of different combinations. Not sure if he has updated the OP yet. Sorry for the confusion!

Edit- the 5/4/6 was tested for AS+ pitching and could prove to be a little much for HOF pitching. HC seems like he has found a sweet spot for HOF with 6/4/5 at least for him anyway. One of those, possibly either could work for you. Feedback is appreciated for those using HOF pitching! Thanks everyone

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Cheers man! I will definitely be taking a look at the different options .....I use Hof and Hof+ for pitching

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[Head Coach]

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As long as you feel like you are still getting the strikeouts you want then I'd say you're golden.

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I got 11 K' s in 11 innings with like 4-5 different pitchers. That is a good ratio.

[bryanm1982]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

The OP is updated with the newest changes.

[bryanm1982]

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The bullpen set up that we got from BigDawg12 is working really good so far. I love when the CPU is actually bringing in MRP in the 5th inning of games. Probably the best bullpen setup I have used. Just for example a couple of situations I had against the Phillies.

Game 1: they were up 7-5 in the 6th and they took out Eflin with one out. They brought in Brogdon (stamina at 27) to finish the inning.
7th inning: Brad Hand
8th inning: Jose Alvarado
9th inning: Corey Knebel

Game 2: they were down 3-1 in the 5th and Aaron Nola put two runners on and they brought in Brogdon. So they used him in game one with a lead and game 2 while down 3-1.

The cpu doesn’t really bring in the same relievers every game which is nice.


Game 3

[Head Coach]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

The OP is updated with the newest changes.

One question. For the timing it 5/3. Are you saying that for the CPU the timing is 0 at HOF or above or is it for both? I just noticed that.

[Rmiok222]

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Franchise Fidelity to Reality Roster Project (Official Thread)

https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=997116

You guys should check out this roster. It’s actually incredible how he’s done this. The reason I’m telling you guys is I know you two are extremely conscious of strikeout numbers and he has very low vision values (which I think is amazing, and accurate to today’s MLB) to the point where I think it could probably be ran at default timing. Check it out!


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[DarthRambo]

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Franchise Fidelity to Reality Roster Project (Official Thread)

https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=997116

You guys should check out this roster. It’s actually incredible how he’s done this. The reason I’m telling you guys is I know you two are extremely conscious of strikeout numbers and he has very low vision values (which I think is amazing, and accurate to today’s MLB) to the point where I think it could probably be ran at default timing. Check it out!


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While I do love custom rosters I dislike the idea of needing to edit drafted guys to match the rosters used for progression. Maybe moreso cause I wouldn't have a clue how to edit them properly. If there was a simple edit this attribute by this much globally then maybe I'd be more inclined. Just no real direction how to go about future draft classes to match turns me off to the idea. That's just me though. Thanks, Rmiok! Your set looks good btw. A lot of similarities which I think is a good thing. Like they say...it takes a village!

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[DarthRambo]

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One question. For the timing it 5/3. Are you saying that for the CPU the timing is 0 at HOF or above or is it for both? I just noticed that.

I think it would be perfectly fine at 3 for HOF. When we were using HOF wanting more strikeouts we went straight to 0 timing and it worked so that's why. To be honest we kinda went to AS+ not long after so never tested any higher than 0 for HOF. Playing with it at 0 and 3 both for a good amount each I honestly do not notice any difference with strikeout numbers. That's why I would assume 3 would work fine for HOF.

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[bryanm1982]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic/Quick Counts MLB 22 Sliders

Franchise Fidelity to Reality Roster Project (Official Thread)

https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=997116

You guys should check out this roster. It’s actually incredible how he’s done this. The reason I’m telling you guys is I know you two are extremely conscious of strikeout numbers and he has very low vision values (which I think is amazing, and accurate to today’s MLB) to the point where I think it could probably be ran at default timing. Check it out!


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Yeah I am interested in trying that roster. It looks really cool. But I’m just not sure if I want to test out sliders using that roster. Someone said they had to go to legend to pitch. I don’t want to reinvent the wheel again with that. Probably could try HOF and timing at 5. Also wondering about the RP stamina ratings so low. Are they going to recover in time when you have to play 15-20 games in a row?

[Rmiok222]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic/Quick Counts MLB 22 Sliders

Yeah I am interested in trying that roster. It looks really cool. But I’m just not sure if I want to test out sliders using that roster. Someone said they had to go to legend to pitch. I don’t want to reinvent the wheel again with that. Probably could try HOF and timing at 5. Also wondering about the RP stamina ratings so low. Are they going to recover in time when you have to play 15-20 games in a row?

Honestly I wondered the same and commented almost the same exact thing yesterday after it dropped. I love his actual roster and how he constructed it. I just wonder if it needs a specific slider set tailored to the roster it self. I’ve tested so much I’m not willing to really start from scratch (I know you guys have tested your brains out too)

Irish made a good point too. Really didn’t think about the draft classes not matching up at all with the roster. I guess I’m going to stick with the SDS roster for now


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