S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

[DarthRambo]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

I have now played about 30 games with these and really I am in a bad spot. At first the only way the computer would score was on HR. so I lowered the power and upped the contact one and the solid hits. Now the computer can barely score at all. I am on All star plus for hitting and i am on hall of fame for pitching. I am using the Mets so I know they have top notch starting pitching but I look for realism and if I win 130 games to me that is not fun.



I am really having a hard time finding a middle ground. Any suggestions?

What is your strike percentages look like? First pitch strikes as well unless you use quick counts. Lowering pitcher consistency would be my first suggestion over messing with cpu hitting sliders too much if you can. Raising their timing up to 3 may work well too. Honestly there isn't much of a noticeable difference between 3 and 0 to me. I strikeout about the same amount at 3 on AS+.

Also like shuckers said, he is on HOF+. You could just need to leave dynamic on and see where it takes you. Last year we had to go up to Legend to get any amount of realistic challenge from the cpu. You may jump up to legend pitching difficulty and it's good for you.

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[Head Coach]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

I have now played about 30 games with these and really I am in a bad spot. At first the only way the computer would score was on HR. so I lowered the power and upped the contact one and the solid hits. Now the computer can barely score at all. I am on All star plus for hitting and i am on hall of fame for pitching. I am using the Mets so I know they have top notch starting pitching but I look for realism and if I win 130 games to me that is not fun.

I am really having a hard time finding a middle ground. Any suggestions?

I am using the Mets too and you basically just have to keep raising the CPU hitting sliders until you find the right levels that makes them hit.

Right now I am on Legend Pitching with CPU having increased contact and solid hits.

You have to boost the CPU hitting until it is competitive.

[bryanm1982]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

We took 2 out of 3 against the Astros in Houston to finish the road trip at 6-3.

Game one:

SEA 7 9 0
HOU 1 5 0

W- Flexen ( 5 - 0 )
L- Garcia ( 2 - 2 )
S- None
SEA SP- Flexen 6 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 3 K, 4.50 ERA
HOU SP- Garcia 5 IP, 5 H, 4 ER, 0 BB, 2 K, 4.45 ERA
SEA HRs- Winker (17) Rodriguez (2)
HOU HRs- None
PotG- Flexen W, 6 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 3 K
Cards-

Game two:

SEA 1 5 0
HOU 3 5 0

W- Stanek ( 1 - 2 )
L- Munoz ( 1 - 2 )
S- Pressly (5)
SEA SP- Brash 6 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 4 K, 6.23 ERA
HOU SP- Odorizzi 6 IP, 4 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 6 K, 1.46 ERA
SEA HRs- None
HOU HRs- None
PotG- Pressly S, 1 IP, 2 K
Cards-

Game three:

SEA 4 4 0
HOU 3 7 0

W- Steckenrider ( 2 - 1 )
L- Raley ( 0 - 2 )
S- Sewald (10)
SEA SP- McCaughan 6 IP, 6 H, 3 ER, 0 BB, 4 K, 4.50 ERA
HOU SP- Verlander 6 IP, 1 H, 2 ER, 5 BB, 3 K, 4.28 ERA
SEA HRs- France (6) Winker (18)
HOU HRS- Altuve (5)
PotG- Winker 1 for 3 - HR, 2 RBI
Cards-

~~Injury news~~
Kelenic Sprained Knee Ligament 1-2 weeks
Robbie Ray Broken Forearm 1-2 months

____________________________________________

Up Next:

TB ( 15 - 16 , AL East , gb ) @
SEA ( 19 - 12 , 1st AL West , gb )

Game one: Corey Kluber ( 0 - 5 ) 6.66 ERA vs Logan Gilbert ( 4 - 1 ) 2.16 ERA

Game two: Shane McClanahan ( 2 - 1 ) 4.18 ERA vs Marco Gonzales ( 2 - 2 ) 5.46 ERA

Game three: Ryan Yarbrough ( 2 - 1 ) 4.10 ERA vs Chris Flexen ( 5 - 0 ) 4.50 ERA

Game four: Corey Kluber ( 0 - 1 ) 7.65 ERA vs Brash ( 0 - 2 ) 6.45 ERA

[Head Coach]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

I just got shelled.


Mets 3 5 1
Cardinals 11 19 0

I got absolutely rocked. Defensive mistakes sent the whole game out of control. I can take it in stride I had this one coming. Bassitt started but couldn't get out of the 4th. I kept making diving stops where my infielders couldn't throw anyone out so I couldn't keep runners off the bases.My pitcher made a throwing error that sent the whole game out of control.

Its a long 162 game season so I can expect its going to get tougher when I play some better teams.

[DarthRambo]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

I just got shelled.





Mets 3 5 1

Cardinals 11 19 0



I got absolutely rocked. Defensive mistakes sent the whole game out of control. I can take it in stride I had this one coming. Bassitt started but couldn't get out of the 4th. I kept making diving stops where my infielders couldn't throw anyone out so I couldn't keep runners off the bases.My pitcher made a throwing error that sent the whole game out of control.



Its a long 162 game season so I can expect its going to get tougher when I play some better teams.

Yeah I would warn against adjusting cpu hitting sliders without a bunch of testing first. DeGrom should finish the season below 2era, and below 1.50era wouldn't be unrealistic either like real life. Scherzer should finish below 3era. Bassitt should finish a good amount under 4era. And since this is a video game I suspect you could easily finish well below 4era with Taijuan Walker too.

Right now we have been testing so many different combinations for cpu hitting and human pitcher control and consistency sliders. Feels like we have been forever now lol. We think we have come to something now though. Thanks to Bryan for testing it out and coming up with the idea!

It's definitely not easy to obtain the hit distribution percentages we want on a video game. It's very easy to set up sliders and not care how the cpu score and hits as long as they're competitive. It's easy to get the cpu to hit a bunch of homeruns and cause you to have a realistic record at the end. But that's not fun for us so we really strive for perfect hit distribution and cpu batting average as our #1 goal. When we achieve that the entire game plays out so well.

I just played a game where I won 4-2 vs Twins. They had 10 hits and left like 7 or 8 guys on base. 3 doubles, 1 homerun, and 6 singles. That is the hit distribution we want to have. Obviously not every game but over the course of at least 10-12 games we should have good hit distribution percentages. If not then we just aren't where we want to be yet. Never going to be perfect but last year we were pretty darn close so I don't see any reason we can't this year with an improved game all around imo.

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[Head Coach]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

Yeah I would warn against adjusting cpu hitting sliders without a bunch of testing first. DeGrom should finish the season below 2era, and below 1.50era wouldn't be unrealistic either like real life. Scherzer should finish below 3era. Bassitt should finish a good amount under 4era. And since this is a video game I suspect you could easily finish well below 4era with Taijuan Walker too.

Right now we have been testing so many different combinations for cpu hitting and human pitcher control and consistency sliders. Feels like we have been forever now lol. We think we have come to something now though. Thanks to Bryan for testing it out and coming up with the idea!

It's definitely not easy to obtain the hit distribution percentages we want on a video game. It's very easy to set up sliders and not care how the cpu score and hits as long as they're competitive. It's easy to get the cpu to hit a bunch of homeruns and cause you to have a realistic record at the end. But that's not fun for us so we really strive for perfect hit distribution and cpu batting average as our #1 goal. When we achieve that the entire game plays out so well.

I just played a game where I won 4-2 vs Twins. They had 10 hits and left like 7 or 8 guys on base. 3 doubles, 1 homerun, and 6 singles. That is the hit distribution we want to have. Obviously not every game but over the course of at least 10-12 games we should have good hit distribution percentages. If not then we just aren't where we want to be yet. Never going to be perfect but last year we were pretty darn close so I don't see any reason we can't this year with an improved game all around imo.

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The Cards game should have been a 6-3 or 7-3 loss. The fielding made it worse. They scored 11 runs with no home runs at all. Just single doubles and bad fielding so the sliders did work in that regard.

Another factor is that since I am using both meter and classic the pitchers motion on meter affects things too.
I really like Walkers motion so I pitch better with him on meter than I should. Thats another wrinkle in the gameplay.

[DarthRambo]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

The Cards game should have been a 6-3 or 7-3 loss. The fielding made it worse. They scored 11 runs with no home runs at all. Just single doubles and bad fielding so the sliders did work in that regard.

Another factor is that since I am using both meter and classic the pitchers motion on meter affects things too.
I really like Walkers motion so I pitch better with him on meter than I should. Thats another wrinkle in the gameplay.

That's odd the pitching motions would be different on meter and classic. I had no idea that was even a thing.

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[Head Coach]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

That's odd the pitching motions would be different on meter and classic. I had no idea that was even a thing.

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The motion of the pitcher effects how the rhythm of the meter works. Different pitchers have motions that make the meter easier/ harder to use.

[bryanm1982]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

We think we might be on to something with Allstar +. That might also work with HOF if you want a bigger challenge. If you are interested in trying these you can.

CPU solid hits at 6. That is giving the CPU a more of a threat. It isn’t messing up the hit variety. We were worried about that and will have more testing. If HOF is enough of a challenge for you, than keep the solid hits at 5.

If you are using pitching difficulty lower than HOF, make Human Control 2 and Consistency at 3. HOF, you can try that 2/3 or keep the 4/4. We didn’t test this on HOF yet.

What is nice is about Steve and I is we have two of us testing. We have two different games going so when we combine our stats they all come out really good. One of us might be struggling at the time so we know it isn’t the sliders.

[Lil Worm]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic/Quick Counts MLB 22 Sliders

Garden is in until I put my okra in mid May. Bout to be game time again fellas!!!


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[Head Coach]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

I just played the best game yet this season.


Mets 8 12 1
Cards 6 12 1
11 innings

This is the best game yet with these sliders. Multiple lead changes. Both teams had hot spots...cold innings...good/ bad pitching. I got lucky because the closer allowed me to tie the game in the 9th. In the top of the 11th Lindor hit the first pitch for a 2 run homer. I got lucky and crushed it.

The advice given on how to adjust the hitting contact and solid hits is correct. That is the key to the games.

The Mets are good no doubt but I have won a lot of games I could have or should have lost.

I even had 3 BB and hit 2 batters.

[bryanm1982]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

That sounds like a pretty exciting game and some offense there.

I probably had one of my best games as well. We are facing the Phillies who are 25-9. We lost the first game 7-5. Even the announcers said these are two of the best teams.

2nd game we were down 3-1 and tied it in the 6th after a double put runners on 2nd and 3rd with nobody out. Two groundouts tied the game. In the 9th inning they had runners on 1st and 2nd and sac bunt the runners over. Walked Harper and Castanellos hit a sac fly. Bottom 9th, Winker doubled followed by Hanigers game tying double. With 2 out, Suarez hit a game winning walk off home run to win it 6-4.

PHI 4 9 0
SEA 6 13 1

PHI - 2 HR, 7 singles, 5 BB, 12 K
SEA - 1 HR, 5 2B; 7 singles, 4 BB, 6 K

[Head Coach]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

That sounds like a pretty exciting game and some offense there.

I probably had one of my best games as well. We are facing the Phillies who are 25-9. We lost the first game 7-5. Even the announcers said these are two of the best teams.

2nd game we were down 3-1 and tied it in the 6th after a double put runners on 2nd and 3rd with nobody out. Two groundouts tied the game. In the 9th inning they had runners on 1st and 2nd and sac bunt the runners over. Walked Harper and Castanellos hit a sac fly. Bottom 9th, Winker doubled followed by Hanigers game tying double. With 2 out, Suarez hit a game winning walk off home run to win it 6-4.

PHI 4 9 0
SEA 6 13 1

PHI - 2 HR, 7 singles, 5 BB, 12 K
SEA - 1 HR, 5 2B; 7 singles, 4 BB, 6 K

That is a good series right there. You have to be patient at the plate use all 27 outs given to you to win the game.
When you fall behind don't try to hit everything out. Just work the count and DONT SWING AT PITCHES OUT OF THE STRIKE ZONE.That will kill you in any game. I would rather pop a good pitch up than swing and miss at a garbage pitch.

[DarthRambo]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

I just played the best game yet this season.


Mets 8 12 1
Cards 6 12 1
11 innings

This is the best game yet with these sliders. Multiple lead changes. Both teams had hot spots...cold innings...good/ bad pitching. I got lucky because the closer allowed me to tie the game in the 9th. In the top of the 11th Lindor hit the first pitch for a 2 run homer. I got lucky and crushed it.

The advice given on how to adjust the hitting contact and solid hits is correct. That is the key to the games.

The Mets are good no doubt but I have won a lot of games I could have or should have lost.

I even had 3 BB and hit 2 batters.

Was this a game with the 5/4/6 cpu hitting sliders setup? Can't wait to play some more myself later tonight. The last game probably was the best game for me too. Not that it was super exciting like yours, but it looked and felt like a real baseball game.

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[Head Coach]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

Was this a game with the 5/4/6 cpu hitting sliders setup? Can't wait to play some more myself later tonight. The last game probably was the best game for me too. Not that it was super exciting like yours, but it looked and felt like a real baseball game.

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Basically it was but I made the contact higher than the solid hits so it basically was 6/4/5 so its basically the same philosophy. The higher contact evens out my good pitching so the CPU hits like a true MLB team.

Im sticking with that set up for now. Its right in line with the slider set.