S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

[bryanm1982]

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How is everyone’s simmed stats looking? I’ve noticed after one month (27 games) that some teams relievers have like 34 innings pitched.

I originally thought it could be due to injury but these guys are like 24-30 stamina at most. Hitting numbers look good, pitching numbers look decent too outside of IP.

Any other feedback or are we happy with where we are at?


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I am 84 games in to my season and I have 2 MRP in the LR1 and 2 spots that are under 40 stamina. The closer in the closer spot and the best Setup guy in the SU1 spot. Everyone else is in the MRP spots. I put the long man in the MRP4 spot but don’t know if that matters. Here are the Yankees bullpen numbers in 84 games.

LRP1: Luetge 31 G, 31.2 IP
LRP2: Loaisiga 34 G, 50.1 IP
MRP1: King 38 G, 46.1 IP
MRP2: Holmes 22 G, 37 IP
MRP3: Britton 13 G, 11.1 IP
MRP4: German 24 G, 46 IP
SU1: Green 28 G, 26.2 IP
CP: Chapman 36 G, 33.1 IP

Don’t know why they don’t use Britton unless he was hurt for a while.

[dutchy25]

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To add to this. Cpu contact at 7 with power at 4 was good but just low homerun totals oddly enough so we have settled in with 6 and 5. So you could give the contact at 7 and power at 4 a shot first as well. And strikeouts are still there so don't be concerned with that.

I just know HOF or higher your strikeout totals are going to be low with these UNLESS you turn cpu timing down to like 2. But then their offense becomes too weak overall once again and we're back to that. Trust us, we test probably damn near every crazy combination of sliders possible so we've been all over. We won't ever give up testing until we get exactly what we are looking for. But truthfully it's a lot of fun. I sometimes have more fun testing sliders than ai do actually playing my franchise games.

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I may play around with your suggestions here. Just went 8.0 IP, 0 ER, 4 H, 11 Ks with 88 ovr Bobby Miller.

One thing I'm also thinking about is that I'm near the end of the 2026 season using the OSFM roster. Not sure how it would affect my outcomes too much but something to consider I guess.

Not all negative though, I'm really liking the challenge/reward I'm getting on the offensive side. HR's I hit are mostly perfect/perfect timing. Makes me be more selective on what pitches to swing at. Before trying this set I was swinging at anything close.

[DarthRambo]

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I may play around with your suggestions here. Just went 8.0 IP, 0 ER, 4 H, 11 Ks with 88 ovr Bobby Miller.



One thing I'm also thinking about is that I'm near the end of the 2026 season using the OSFM roster. Not sure how it would affect my outcomes too much but something to consider I guess.



Not all negative though, I'm really liking the challenge/reward I'm getting on the offensive side. HR's I hit are mostly perfect/perfect timing. Makes me be more selective on what pitches to swing at. Before trying this set I was swinging at anything close.

I mean you have a really good pitching staff it appear as well. So I wouldn't jump the gun right away. I just pitched a shutout with Chris Bassitt going 6ip last night vs Cardinals. Cards only recorded 6 hits all game. Then Scherzer game before that gave up 5 earned with 5bb and 7k in only 4 innings of work so you're gonna have those games too.

If you want to test out how they are working play a random game or two within your franchise with a weaker team. But definitely want to allow yourself to have some dominant pitching performances still. And if your bullpen is really good you have a good chance of winning quite a few games as it is.

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[bellz666]

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How is everyone’s simmed stats looking? I’ve noticed after one month (27 games) that some teams relievers have like 34 innings pitched.

I originally thought it could be due to injury but these guys are like 24-30 stamina at most. Hitting numbers look good, pitching numbers look decent too outside of IP.

Any other feedback or are we happy with where we are at?


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I am seeing some crazy RP innings, I will check my game later on for specifics. I noticed one of the Mets relievers (can't remember which one) had pitched in 38 of their 46 games, had 65 IP and leads the NL in Wins.

[bryanm1982]

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I am seeing some crazy RP innings, I will check my game later on for specifics. I noticed one of the Mets relievers (can't remember which one) had pitched in 38 of their 46 games, had 65 IP and leads the NL in Wins.

I have noticed that the LRP guys are getting a lot of decisions and some are leading the league in wins. I have been going through them and switching them back to MRP spots to slow it down.

If we raise sim stamina at 2 that will help control the bullpen usage and make their starters go a little longer and make them use their bullpen less.

[bryanm1982]

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So I simmed season using no injuries and no roster moves with our bullpen setup. I used CPU SP stamina at 2 with hook at 7.

The stamina at 2 helped with the bullpen usage.

This is the Yankees staff.

LR1: King 59 G 118.1 IP
LR2: Loaisiga 38 G 67.1 IP
MR1: Luetge 41 G, 38 IP
MR2: Green 62 G, 62 IP
MR3: Britton 14 G, 12.2 IP
MR4: Gil 41 G, 50 IP
SU1: Holmes 40 G, 36 IP
CP: Chapman 61 G, 54.2 IP

I’m glad to see nobody pitched in 70+ games. That is 2 different seasons that Britton is not used lol don’t know why. He’s rated 78. The downside is the LRP guys averaged about 2 IP per appearance.

Gerrit Cole had 203 IP. Civale led the league with 225 IP but again this was no injuries so he made every start.

Beiber led the league with 5 complete games. There were 106 complete games across the league. Which in real life, that last happened in 2015.


Someone said that the Mets had a pitcher that had crazy amount of appearances. Here is their bullpen.

LR1: Shreve 29 G, 55.1 IP
LR2: Smith 61 G, 90.1 IP
MR1: Lugo 63 G, 60.2 IP
MR2: Rodriguez 33 G, 30.1 IP
MR3: May 38 G, 35 IP
MR4: Peterson 50 G, 66.1 IP
SU1: Ottavino 40 G, 37.1 IP
CP: Diaz 67 G, 63.2 IP

They didn’t have a guy that they didn’t use like the Yankees did with Britton. Just very weird. May was in the same spot Britton was and he had 38 G.

[bryanm1982]

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So I simmed season using no injuries and no roster moves with our bullpen setup. I used CPU SP stamina at 2 with hook at 7.

The stamina at 2 helped with the bullpen usage.

This is the Yankees staff.

LR1: King 59 G 118.1 IP / 72 G, 131 IP
LR2: Loaisiga 38 G 67.1 IP / 49 G, 90 IP
MR1: Luetge 41 G, 38 IP / 50 G, 43 IP
MR2: Green 62 G, 62 IP / 74 G, 70.2 IP
MR3: Britton 14 G, 12.2 IP / 26 G, 24.1 IP
MR4: Gil 41 G, 50 IP / 52 G, 53 IP
SU1: Holmes 40 G, 36 IP / 51 G, 50.1 IP
CP: Chapman 61 G, 54.2 IP / 65 G, 58.2 IP

I’m glad to see nobody pitched in 70+ games. That is 2 different seasons that Britton is not used lol don’t know why. He’s rated 78. The downside is the LRP guys averaged about 2 IP per appearance.

Gerrit Cole had 203 IP. Civale led the league with 225 IP but again this was no injuries so he made every start.

Beiber led the league with 5 complete games. There were 106 complete games across the league. Which in real life, that last happened in 2015.


Someone said that the Mets had a pitcher that had crazy amount of appearances. Here is their bullpen.

LR1: Shreve 29 G, 55.1 IP / 56 G, 81.2 IP
LR2: Smith 61 G, 90.1 IP / 69 G, 103.1 IP
MR1: Lugo 63 G, 60.2 IP / 77 G, 71.1 IP
MR2: Rodriguez 33 G, 30.1 IP / 46 G, 38.2 IP
MR3: May 38 G, 35 IP / 69 G, 60.2 IP
MR4: Peterson 50 G, 66.1 IP / 67 G, 63.2 IP
SU1: Ottavino 40 G, 37.1 IP / 52 G / 36.2 IP
CP: Diaz 67 G, 63.2 IP / 64 G / 55.1 IP

They didn’t have a guy that they didn’t use like the Yankees did with Britton. Just very weird. May was in the same spot Britton was and he had 38 G.

I did another sim with hook at 10.

A couple of bullpen guys had 70 appearances. Which is still good. You see the good bullpen arms in real life go about 60-70 appearances in a year. I put those numbers next to the previous numbers so you can compare them.

Bieber led the AL with 202 IP and Burnes led the NL with 219. Burnes led the NL in complete games with 2 and Eovaldi led the AL with 3.

There were only 35 complete games all year. In 2021, there were 33.

So SP stamina at 2 and hook at 10 would help the bullpen usage with this setup.

If you have any questions, let me know.

[DarthRambo]

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I did another sim with hook at 10.



A couple of bullpen guys had 70 appearances. Which is still good. You see the good bullpen arms in real life go about 60-70 appearances in a year. I put those numbers next to the previous numbers so you can compare them.



Bieber led the AL with 202 IP and Burnes led the NL with 219. Burnes led the NL in complete games with 2 and Eovaldi led the AL with 3.



There were only 35 complete games all year. In 2021, there were 33.



So SP stamina at 2 and hook at 10 would help the bullpen usage with this setup.



If you have any questions, let me know.

Was this with RP stamina at 2 as well?

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[bryanm1982]

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Was this with RP stamina at 2 as well?

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I just left that at 5.

[BlueJays09]

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I actually do this for every update within my Mets franchise. Keeps me from wanting to restart lol. Doesn't take crazy long time if you have a laptop and sort by team.

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How do you sort by team? I have been doing this every update but it takes time swapping between teams


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[DarthRambo]

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How do you sort by team? I have been doing this every update but it takes time swapping between teams


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If on a cpu or laptop, hit ctrl f and type in team name. Hit enter and it will tab down to next player with update on that team.

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[DarthRambo]

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Just wanna share this. 17 of the 48 games are update cpu hitting sliders which has helped tremendously. I found a good set for my hitting so I am striking out enough now so that number will be green by end of June of my seaaon I'm thinking. I am missing Pete Alonso still so my homeruns are realistically a bit on the lower end.

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[bryanm1982]

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Quick update to the stamina on the OP.

Human SP and RP: 6
CPU SP and RP: 7

When simming, CPU SP stamina at 2. This will let the starters go a little longer in games and controls the bullpen usage. Sims show about 30-35 complete games total for the year (in 2021, there were 32 complete games in MLB). And you’ll see about 60-70 appearances from your relievers.

[Clonefan84]

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Hey guys,

I have read through a decent amount of the thread and have really liked how much everyone reaches out to help try to make the game as sim as possible. With that I'd like to introduce how my experience is going and see what you all think I should do with it.

First off I'd like to state that I play on zone hitting and pinpoint pitching. I know this is a directional/classic set, but am still hoping this set can still help out. Reason I do those things is that I'm a guy who finds it more fun to have my input and skill matter and am ok it that means my team performs slightly better than it should, though I prefer not to win the world series year one with the pirates...though I'm fearing that's where my franchise is heading.

So I have started a pirates franchise right around when ridin released his rosters. I have played on default legend, and I know default can definitely get out of hand at times, but I've found I can still get a challenge on default in the past. This first year however I'm 71 games in and find myself 6.5 games in first with a 45-26 record, and ironically for me it's all been pitching. Usually its because of my hitting I can do that, but this year I find my hitting stats to be surprisingly on point for default legend. Maybe a smidgen more hrs than normal, but my average is around .250, my run output seems to be at the average/below average level, right at that slightly better than where my team should be point.

Pitching though? Yeah thats a whole different story. All 5 of my starting pitchers have an Era under 3.5, all relievers under 3 except my long reliever who's at just under 4. Team Era of I think 3.08 or somewhere around there, only the dodgers are better. Despite that I still think I'm dead last in strikeouts, definitely in first significantly in fewest walks (I'm sure pinpoint is a big reason for that), basically they are pitching like the irl Yankees but without the Ks.

Before my last 3 games I decided I really need to start changing things. Aside from the pitching there are definitely some other glaring issues I'm having. Stolen bases are near impossible for both. Fielding is ridiculous (my pirates have just 5 errors in those 71 games). Also I have only had 2 injuries all season in my mlb team, both day to day. The changes I made were small for now. I bumped fielding errors and throwing errors to 6 and changed my fielding to buttons instead of button accuracy (I can live with not having control of those aspects). I also upped injuries to 8 and sim injuries to 6, and I upped stealing to 6. Everything else is still at 5. I also went clean screen. No more strike zone and pitching cursor. I know I definitely will need to do more but I wanted to start the changing slowly so I don't turn everything upside down on a whim.

The 3 games I played I definitely like the change to clean screen. Much harder to locate the corners and definitely was a bigger challenge pitching, but I still feel the cpu doesn't hit my mistakes as well as they should. Didn't see any errors unfortunately from either side, and I honestly didn't have any good chance to give stealing a shot. My 3 games were a 6-5 win in 11, 3-1 loss, and 7-3 win against the giants.

I know thats a lot, but I this is where I would like to ask for any suggestions on what I should do, and also if you guys think that your sliders would be a good fit for someone like me who prefers to have a bit more control over the outcomes and on legend difficulty. Any suggestions would be fully welcomed and looked at hard, as I see a lot of people here mentioning how much fun they are having with this game and I want to have that same feeling.

[DarthRambo]

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I think our pitching sliders would work using any pitching interface. I would go to Allstar pitching and input our cpu hitting sliders along with human pitching sliders, including stamina. I am confident you will get the cpu offense to be a consistent threat you're looking for. I know we certainly have

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