S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

[Clonefan84]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

Yeah I agree, coors isn't the best place for sliders lol. Probably wouldn't have thought twice about it if it were just that series, but it was the big games in Florida combined with it that has me questioning. That and it's like every ball hit is hard, and control is so out of whack at times.

I'll try holding to the vibration more. I had heard that it's best to hold about half way between Start and vibration, because going up to vibration is max effort making it less control and more draining on stamina, but also more velocity. dunno how accurate that is but i know whatever im doing is ruining careers lol.

Thanks again for the help though, i do appreciate it a lot. Fortunately I don't mind getting shelled for a bit to balance things out, and what's absurd is I'm not even losing ground for 1st place because the brewers and cubs keep losing as well lol

[DarthRambo]

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Is there a trick to classic pitching? Like is there a specific length of time I should be holding the button before releasing to get a good result? I actually have seen/heard many different takes on that. I do notice confidence helps a bit, but it don't take that long to lose it with these pitchers lol. I guess I just wanna make sure I don't have the difficulty inflated now more than ever because my last game José quintana got injured for 2 months and I called up Quinn priester to make his debut and I don't wanna be giving up 16 ruins in the 1st lol.

I really do wanna like these sliders, and make no mistake I definitely want a challenge and I did feel these results were realistic for a bad game. It was just the consecutiveness of these bad games that has me worried. Giving up 82 runs in 7 games is quite a lot.

I wanted to add I know those 4 games in particular don't look terrible other than the 22-4 one, but I'm also including my other 3 games vs marlins in my concerns, which were W 11-7, L 16-9, L 13-2.

To me there isn't really a trick to it. Quite a few times I just tap the button to conserve stamina. And tap if I am down 3-1 in the count for more control. I also sometimes hold just a bit. I never really hold until the vibration is felt. Doing that will cause far less control usually.

The key with classic imo is to not try to get all 4 or 5 pitches working. Stick with two at most and throw in a 3rd when you can afford to throw a ball. Getting confidence in the fastball is my main priority. But also use my slider or offspeed to get my strikeouts early on in the game. Getting a strikeout on a pitch boosts the confidence in that pitch more than anything. Sliders away tend to be OP if you gain some confidence in it and can locate it fairly close to where you want.

Overall the key is just to be patient with pitching and keep it simple. Just use a couple pitches at first. Every game you're going to have at least one pitch, probably two that just isn't working and you pretty much have to abandon that pitch for that game. If it's your fastball then you're going to have a rough outing, as is such in real life when a pitcher can't locate his fastball.

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[Clonefan84]

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I decided to stick with these, and I moved consistency up to 3. I had a 3 game set vs the marlins and it went MUCH better. Scores were:

W 6-4
L 5-2
L 8-3

The main thing I tried to do was strongly focus on the confidence, and tried to do max velocity for 2 strikes or with very high confidence pitches. It felt much better in about every way. I did have a pretty high amount of walks though. 4, 6, 9 in order. It was definitely better than the previous 7 games, but it still felt a little too much. Strikeouts were much better as well. I got 10 in one and 7 in another. Can't remember the first game.

I didn't like how none of my starters made it 5 innings. It's great to need to strategize but man it kills my bullpen fast. I know my whole pitching staff is cold at the moment though so that could possibly change, but it's one of those things I want to keep an eye on because it could be an issue. I think a large part of that is that walk thing. So many pitches outside the zone that pitch count goes up fast. I very rarely get that nice first pitch out. Never see single digit pitch innings. I also so feel like they hit the ball so hard all the time. Bryan's advice of 5 consistency and 8 solid hits might become my go to eventually, but I'm gonna do it slowly, and I'm gonna do just consistency at first, because at this point I think the wildness is the only thing that's holding this back from true realism. If less pitches would catch the middle of the plate maybe less hits would be as hard. It's getting there though and ultimately I liked what I saw today.

[DarthRambo]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

I decided to stick with these, and I moved consistency up to 3. I had a 3 game set vs the marlins and it went MUCH better. Scores were:



W 6-4

L 5-2

L 8-3



The main thing I tried to do was strongly focus on the confidence, and tried to do max velocity for 2 strikes or with very high confidence pitches. It felt much better in about every way. I did have a pretty high amount of walks though. 4, 6, 9 in order. It was definitely better than the previous 7 games, but it still felt a little too much. Strikeouts were much better as well. I got 10 in one and 7 in another. Can't remember the first game.



I didn't like how none of my starters made it 5 innings. It's great to need to strategize but man it kills my bullpen fast. I know my whole pitching staff is cold at the moment though so that could possibly change, but it's one of those things I want to keep an eye on because it could be an issue. I think a large part of that is that walk thing. So many pitches outside the zone that pitch count goes up fast. I very rarely get that nice first pitch out. Never see single digit pitch innings. I also so feel like they hit the ball so hard all the time. Bryan's advice of 5 consistency and 8 solid hits might become my go to eventually, but I'm gonna do it slowly, and I'm gonna do just consistency at first, because at this point I think the wildness is the only thing that's holding this back from true realism. If less pitches would catch the middle of the plate maybe less hits would be as hard. It's getting there though and ultimately I liked what I saw today.

Great to hear. Use these as a base and tweak them to your play style and level needed to get the kind of baseball you want. Sounds like you are definitely on your way. Without knowing number of hits and the hit distribution numbers, those are realistic scores for sure!

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[DarthRambo]

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Streaming game #68 of Mets franchise now. Will play at least one more, maybe full series vs Brewers tonight. Feel free to watch and check it out!

https://youtube.com/channel/UCwKFk2SOPFogGcUlqoCYDTg

[bryanm1982]

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I was playing a test game last night hitting only. I was hitting for both teams. I would switch teams between innings before the next inning so the cpu would control pitching changes. It was Dodgers at Brewers. The Brewers were down 1-0 in the top of the 9th and they brought in Hader to pitch to try to hold them. That is the first time I have seen the cpu put in their closer while not in a save situation and a close game when losing. It was pretty cool to see.

[Jaybirdy2337]

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I’ve noticed a lot of hit by pitches by the cpu lately. I already made the move to 5 for consistency. 6 might be the move, I’ve just noticed a lot of pitches missing the zone by a lot in general so I think I’m going to roll with that for now and see how it plays. If the cpu becomes strike throwing machines I’ll adjust

[bryanm1982]

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I’ve noticed a lot of hit by pitches by the cpu lately. I already made the move to 5 for consistency. 6 might be the move, I’ve just noticed a lot of pitches missing the zone by a lot in general so I think I’m going to roll with that for now and see how it plays. If the cpu becomes strike throwing machines I’ll adjust

Let us know how that feels and plays.

[Jaybirdy2337]

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Let us know how that feels and plays.

First game with the adjustment to consistency to 6 and I drew 8 walks and 1 hbp. Not drawing any conclusions off that really as Wainwright had been dreadful coming in, having walked like 25 in 47 innings or something like that. But yeah, I think I will like that change. I also upped pitch speed to 9 about 7 games ago and my strikeout numbers have definitely gone up, which I like. I really like where I’m at with this set at the moment!

My Mets are playing great ball, pitching continues to be lights out. Bats have woken up in May and I’m about to have a numbers crunch with the roster. Rookie ofs Khalil Lee and Nick Plummer have gotten time due to Nimmo and McNeil injuries and both have been money! I can’t see myself sending them down to Syracuse when those 2 come off the IL and Cano has also been very good. Guillorme I need around to play short every once in a while to spell Lindor. So maybe a trade is coming? It’s a good problem to have though the baseball gods usually have a way of working those things out, but we’ll see

[DarthRambo]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic/Quick Counts MLB 22 Sliders

I wish I was patient and able to read pitches well enough to draw walks lol. I am dead last in walks and like 26th in OBP cause of it

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[Clonefan84]

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Played the cubs in a two game set. Won game one 14-7. Bats were alive and well, and O'Neil Cruz had 3 hrs. Brubaker walked 5, bullpen struggled a bit but the bats were too good.

Game two was the debut of Quinn priester, and he looked good. Went 6 innings, gave up 1 er, 5 ks, 2 bbs and ended up getting the win as the pirates held on to take it 4-1 and sweep the 2 game set.

Really liked the feel again. It's really nice to be uncertain on the mound now vs feeling comfortable to where 2-1 feels like a w. Insurance runs matter now, and I was only up 2-1 in the 8th and getting those insurance runs really matter now. No resting on either side for the pirates anymore. I still worry a little bit about walks and too many hard hit balls, but honestly a small tweak will probably fix that, and I may not even need it. Loving these sliders now, and next up a 4 gamer vs the phillies.

[bellz666]

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I wish I was patient and able to read pitches well enough to draw walks lol. I am dead last in walks and like 26th in OBP cause of it

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I suck at reading pitches that are high or low, I'm much better off the plate inside or outside. Through my 66 games I have 196 walks so I'm averaging just around 3 per game.

[bryanm1982]

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Played the cubs in a two game set. Won game one 14-7. Bats were alive and well, and O'Neil Cruz had 3 hrs. Brubaker walked 5, bullpen struggled a bit but the bats were too good.

Game two was the debut of Quinn priester, and he looked good. Went 6 innings, gave up 1 er, 5 ks, 2 bbs and ended up getting the win as the pirates held on to take it 4-1 and sweep the 2 game set.

Really liked the feel again. It's really nice to be uncertain on the mound now vs feeling comfortable to where 2-1 feels like a w. Insurance runs matter now, and I was only up 2-1 in the 8th and getting those insurance runs really matter now. No resting on either side for the pirates anymore. I still worry a little bit about walks and too many hard hit balls, but honestly a small tweak will probably fix that, and I may not even need it. Loving these sliders now, and next up a 4 gamer vs the phillies.

Nice. You know you are in a good spot when you give up 7 runs and then 1 run the next game. Tells you that those good games are still possible and the bad games are still there too.

If you are wanting to get more control without changing any sliders, try the full pitch marker. We have it at Classic Fade. But there is another option that shows the pitch break line and where the pitch should end up at. Maybe try that?

[Clonefan84]

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I actually have used that pitching marker, and I honestly prefer classic. It's I good thought, but for some reason I feel like I do worse with it lol.

This phillies series was absolutely insane. The 1st two games together had the most absurd statistical anomaly I've ever seen. Both games the pirates entered the bottom of the 9th down 6-3, both games the 8-9-1 hitters due up, both games Michael conforto hit a walk off hr to win. First game 8-6, 2nd game 9-6. And 2nd game conforto was a ph.

Game 3 the phillies won 8-4 as Nola pitched well. Then pirates rolled game 4 to win 12-3.

Still is playing really well, but still feel like it's a bit high on solid hits and walks, so I am gonna try and raise consistency/lower solid hits one notch each (still at 3/10, mpving them to 4/9). I am also thinking about potentially mixing up the hitting side as my hr numbers are starting to get a little ridiculous. I'm still at default legend for all of human hitting, so a bit of lowering to the power and solid hits might be in order. Also with foul consistency at 5 I may want to lower that as well. I don't want to mess with pitching speed quite yet as I'm still striking out a bunch. Won't make a change to hitting quite yet, as I kinda want to perfect the pitching first.

[DarthRambo]

Re: S & B's Directional/Classic MLB 22 Sliders

I actually have used that pitching marker, and I honestly prefer classic. It's I good thought, but for some reason I feel like I do worse with it lol.



This phillies series was absolutely insane. The 1st two games together had the most absurd statistical anomaly I've ever seen. Both games the pirates entered the bottom of the 9th down 6-3, both games the 8-9-1 hitters due up, both games Michael conforto hit a walk off hr to win. First game 8-6, 2nd game 9-6. And 2nd game conforto was a ph.



Game 3 the phillies won 8-4 as Nola pitched well. Then pirates rolled game 4 to win 12-3.



Still is playing really well, but still feel like it's a bit high on solid hits and walks, so I am gonna try and raise consistency/lower solid hits one notch each (still at 3/10, mpving them to 4/9). I am also thinking about potentially mixing up the hitting side as my hr numbers are starting to get a little ridiculous. I'm still at default legend for all of human hitting, so a bit of lowering to the power and solid hits might be in order. Also with foul consistency at 5 I may want to lower that as well. I don't want to mess with pitching speed quite yet as I'm still striking out a bunch. Won't make a change to hitting quite yet, as I kinda want to perfect the pitching first.

I have been working on something myself. Cpu contact at 6 and timing and solid hits at 10 has been too easy for me so I raised contact up to 7. However timing at 10 with that was too much, so I've got it now where it's timing at 7 too. Just pitched only with both teams this game.

LAA 9 16 0 (2BB 7K); 5 2B, 2HR
KC 0 6 0 (2BB 7K); all singles

Something to maybe try if you'd like. Solid hits at 10 I've yet to see too many hard hit balls like you're seeing so that's kind of odd to me. Could just be bad Pirates pitching I guess.

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