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  • forme95
    MVP
    • Nov 2013
    • 3118

    #76
    Re: Manage Mode (MoM)

    Update to OP

    Power back to 5. Game really seems balanced at default. As long as HR/XBH dont get out of control, it will stay at 5.

    Still would like pitches per innings down, but I feel that is a loss chase. I really think its hard coded and no matter how you set it up, you will always have it. Therefore, I am no longer chasing it. Pitches and pitchers will be what it is.
    Last edited by forme95; 05-20-2023, 08:02 AM.
    Really wish sports games played to ratings!
    Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
    CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
    MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
    Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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    • forme95
      MVP
      • Nov 2013
      • 3118

      #77
      Re: Manage Mode (MoM)

      Fielder Reaction 4
      Fielder Speed 4

      may open more offense but I think it will hurt pitching. On the fence with this adjustment. No change as of yet.

      No changes till after I finish the last 5 games of Spring. Spring plays different if you dont follow the cpu's weird a$$ logic LOL
      Last edited by forme95; 05-21-2023, 09:39 AM.
      Really wish sports games played to ratings!
      Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
      CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
      MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
      Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

      Comment

      • forme95
        MVP
        • Nov 2013
        • 3118

        #78
        Re: Manage Mode (MoM)

        Back to 22. The new rules, scheduling or something has changed how manage mode is programmed to play.
        Really wish sports games played to ratings!
        Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
        CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
        MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
        Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

        Comment

        • forme95
          MVP
          • Nov 2013
          • 3118

          #79
          Re: Manage Mode (MoM)

          The issues: Starting pitching is way to strong. Even turning down stamina 3/3 and hook at 7, starters can still go 7 innings. Only difference is they are at 70 80 pitches with less energy then they would be if slider is at 5.
          Changing sliders do absolutely nothing. The game is hard programmed this way. No matter how you adjust sliders the game programming adjusts to play a certain way. I dont know if it has anything to do with the new rules and such, but something under the hood has changed for Manage mode. Every game plays the same. Over powered Starters that can all go 7+ to complete games. Can get some hits but scoring is null.
          Players dont seem to matter. It doesnt matter if Ohtani is pitching or Jim Bob Farly is pitching. Pitchers arent scared to pitch to anyone (well except the #9 hitter as always) will have 8+ strikeouts no matter the rating. Relief pitchers are all horrible and that is where the programming gives you your stats.
          As of now, the mode is unplayable. Nothing you can adjust will change gameplay. Games will play the same no matter how you go into the game.

          You are better off playing Manage mode one of two ways. Either do all the outside the game stuff like scouting, moving players, etc and simming the day (not going into the game) or do all that and go play (manage) a minor game and let the Major league game sim.
          Last edited by forme95; 05-28-2023, 09:36 AM.
          Really wish sports games played to ratings!
          Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
          CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
          MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
          Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

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          • forme95
            MVP
            • Nov 2013
            • 3118

            #80
            Re: Manage Mode (MoM)

            SDS (and pretty much every sports game) wants you to play. CvC and Manage mode (idk why it's even options anymore) are not options anymore like they use to be. They don't care if someone has disabilities, like the mode because you want to see the players play and the players you put on the field, or in my case can't play more then 40 games a year because my hand won't let me play more then 1 or 2 games a day and I can only play Saturday and/or Sunday. With MoM I could get 8 to 9 games in on a weekend. Cant do that anymore. If you want to somewhat enjoy franchise, you have to jump through all the hoops and physically play.

            Aliens and dinosaurs in created stadiums are what matters to SDS
            Last edited by forme95; 05-28-2023, 04:43 PM.
            Really wish sports games played to ratings!
            Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
            CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
            MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
            Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

            Comment

            • forme95
              MVP
              • Nov 2013
              • 3118

              #81
              Re: Manage Mode (MoM)

              Updated OP

              Stamina for both 3/3
              Hook 7

              Really opens the whole league. You still will get 5 to 6 innings out of your starters and around the league you will see more 5,6,7 innings and rare 8 inning lengths.
              Really wish sports games played to ratings!
              Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
              CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
              MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
              Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

              Comment

              • shawn306
                Rookie
                • Apr 2016
                • 115

                #82
                Re: Manage Mode (MoM)

                Originally posted by forme95
                Updated OP

                Stamina for both 3/3
                Hook 7

                Really opens the whole league. You still will get 5 to 6 innings out of your starters and around the league you will see more 5,6,7 innings and rare 8 inning lengths.
                Interesting since I went away from my setup of starter stamina 5 reliver stamina 3 and Manager hook at 7 because the starting pitching was way too dominant in that setup.

                Yankees were hitting about 235 after about 15 games. Bottom of the league in homers. Judge had hit into 10 double plays in the first 15 games and was hitting 135 against righties. I started looking into things like where pitches were ending up in the strike zone. In one game one guy (Don't remember off the top of my head there were about pitches that were in middle three boxes of the strike zone. Everything other pitch was either in the upper three boxes or the bottom three. Strike percentages for starters were around the 75-80 percent range and first pitches on some guys were 80-85 percent.

                So I basicall went back to the setup that I have used for the past two years. Everything at default except for the following

                Contact = 6
                Infield Arm Strength =4 (this is more visual thing than anything)
                Injuries = 7
                Simulated injuries -6
                Trading 3 April-May, 4 June to 2nd week of July and 5 from the 3rd week of July to the deadline.

                Pitching seems alot more normal now. First pitch strikes are in 55-65 range and more balls are hitting the middle boxes of the strike zone.

                This is pretty much locked in for me now.

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                • forme95
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2013
                  • 3118

                  #83
                  Re: Manage Mode (MoM)

                  Originally posted by shawn306
                  Interesting since I went away from my setup of starter stamina 5 reliver stamina 3 and Manager hook at 7 because the starting pitching was way too dominant in that setup.

                  Yankees were hitting about 235 after about 15 games. Bottom of the league in homers. Judge had hit into 10 double plays in the first 15 games and was hitting 135 against righties. I started looking into things like where pitches were ending up in the strike zone. In one game one guy (Don't remember off the top of my head there were about pitches that were in middle three boxes of the strike zone. Everything other pitch was either in the upper three boxes or the bottom three. Strike percentages for starters were around the 75-80 percent range and first pitches on some guys were 80-85 percent.

                  So I basicall went back to the setup that I have used for the past two years. Everything at default except for the following

                  Contact = 6
                  Infield Arm Strength =4 (this is more visual thing than anything)
                  Injuries = 7
                  Simulated injuries -6
                  Trading 3 April-May, 4 June to 2nd week of July and 5 from the 3rd week of July to the deadline.

                  Pitching seems alot more normal now. First pitch strikes are in 55-65 range and more balls are hitting the middle boxes of the strike zone.

                  This is pretty much locked in for me now.
                  12 games in to regular season Guardians are hitting .264 and not last, but bottom end in homeruns (they are a contact team) but make up in XBH (double,triples). I'll look into that next. Maybe your adjustments will make things better. Less SO and more BB. Strikeout to Walk ratio is a little off for my taste. Ive had no issues with DP's. Only 12 games in, but even in spring they werent bad.
                  Really wish sports games played to ratings!
                  Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
                  CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
                  MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
                  Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

                  Comment

                  • shawn306
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 115

                    #84
                    Re: Manage Mode (MoM)

                    Originally posted by forme95
                    12 games in to regular season Guardians are hitting .264 and not last, but bottom end in homeruns (they are a contact team) but make up in XBH (double,triples). I'll look into that next. Maybe your adjustments will make things better. Less SO and more BB. Strikeout to Walk ratio is a little off for my taste. Ive had no issues with DP's. Only 12 games in, but even in spring they werent bad.
                    I have gone with that setup the last two years and I have enjoyed it alot. If you can deal with long relievers going 150 innings and alot of simulated shutouts then it fine.

                    I found two bugs that I have reported.

                    1) A tired starting pitching if you resume a saved game was getting a boost after the first pitch of a game you resume. It was very weird but I saw it a couple of times where my starter was basically out of energy and when I resumed the game his energy jumped to 50.

                    2) Pitchout button is not working. I think this has been reported a couple of times but I submitted one anyway.

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                    • forme95
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 3118

                      #85
                      Re: Manage Mode (MoM)

                      Originally posted by shawn306
                      I have gone with that setup the last two years and I have enjoyed it alot. If you can deal with long relievers going 150 innings and alot of simulated shutouts then it fine.

                      I found two bugs that I have reported.

                      1) A tired starting pitching if you resume a saved game was getting a boost after the first pitch of a game you resume. It was very weird but I saw it a couple of times where my starter was basically out of energy and when I resumed the game his energy jumped to 50.

                      2) Pitchout button is not working. I think this has been reported a couple of times but I submitted one anyway.
                      You could try 3,3,7 for simmed games. Then once you start your game go and change those back to default or whatever you have them set at. I havent had a complete game yet by simmed teams since I switched. Like I said, you see a lot of 5,6,7 innings pitched by starters. Even in low scoring games. You will see an occasional 8 inning by a starter. Havent looked to see relief usage though innings wise. I think (imo) LRP are usually SP's so thats why they get a lot of innings. Its to replicate a starters season to help them be a future rotation starter.

                      I only (call it ocd lol) will go complete games. I never save in middle of a game. Good to know though.

                      Another one I dont use. No one pitches out anymore. LOL I even yell at the screen when the cpu does it
                      I actually wish (they wont cause of classic rosters and such) they would change it to if you call a pitchout, it just throws a high outside pitch.
                      Really wish sports games played to ratings!
                      Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
                      CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
                      MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
                      Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

                      Comment

                      • forme95
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2013
                        • 3118

                        #86
                        Re: Manage Mode (MoM)

                        Updated OP

                        Contact 6
                        IF Arm Strength 4

                        Thanks to Shawn306. Really helps the game out accompanied with the 3,3,7
                        Really wish sports games played to ratings!
                        Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
                        CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
                        MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
                        Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

                        Comment

                        • forme95
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2013
                          • 3118

                          #87
                          Re: Manage Mode (MoM)

                          In an extra innings, 1 out guy on third and first, Miggy hits a chopper to second and beats out a double play to allow extra inning score to tie game. I wish I would have saved the replay. It really was more that the guy slid into second and it pushed the SS off and he threw late. It was really a :O moment.
                          Really wish sports games played to ratings!
                          Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
                          CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
                          MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
                          Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

                          Comment

                          • theoriginal561
                            Rookie
                            • May 2011
                            • 338

                            #88
                            Re: Manage Mode (MoM)

                            Originally posted by forme95
                            In an extra innings, 1 out guy on third and first, Miggy hits a chopper to second and beats out a double play to allow extra inning score to tie game. I wish I would have saved the replay. It really was more that the guy slid into second and it pushed the SS off and he threw late. It was really a :O moment.

                            Hey man awesome stuff here. Listen, what UMP preference are you using? I usually run the "unique" setting or whatever it is so its a random zone each game. But would average get better results or just stick with that?

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                            • forme95
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 3118

                              #89
                              Re: Manage Mode (MoM)

                              Update OP

                              Umpires personalized
                              Check swing appeal OFF
                              Really wish sports games played to ratings!
                              Only thing SIM about sports games now, are the team name and players
                              CFB 25 The absolute GOAT!!!
                              MLB 23 FOREVER 20 is better, 23 just for Guardians
                              Madden get rid of the extras (SS/XF, HFA, media, scenarios, game plan) or turn them down considerably.

                              Comment

                              • tgreer
                                Pro
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 565

                                #90
                                Re: Manage Mode (MoM)

                                How is the contact working at 6?

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