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  • glenn77901
    Rookie
    • Jan 2011
    • 11

    #1171
    Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

    Hey guy's ! Great job on the sliders... Been playing a test franchise using the Live roster that came out with Tatis Jr. I'm playing every pitch and everything is playing very well. The only change I've made was to put Fld. speed @ 3 with Reaction still @ 5. Defense playing silky smooth...

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    • bubs3141
      Pro
      • Aug 2002
      • 854

      #1172
      Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

      After 20 games with the sliders the same in page 1. Except I use dynamic difficulty

      BA: .293
      Runs:78
      Hits: 208
      Doubles: 35
      Triples: 0
      Home runs: 21
      RBI: 77
      Base on Balls: 8
      Errors: 1
      ERA: 2.66
      Hits Allowed: 143
      Runs Allowed: 53
      HR allowed: 11
      Base on Balls allowed: 39
      Strikeouts: 211

      , is there anything I should change in slider?

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      • bryanm1982
        MVP
        • Nov 2016
        • 3788

        #1173
        Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

        Originally posted by bubs3141
        After 20 games with the sliders the same in page 1. Except I use dynamic difficulty

        BA: .293
        Runs:78
        Hits: 208
        Doubles: 35
        Triples: 0
        Home runs: 21
        RBI: 77
        Base on Balls: 8
        Errors: 1
        ERA: 2.66
        Hits Allowed: 143
        Runs Allowed: 53
        HR allowed: 11
        Base on Balls allowed: 39
        Strikeouts: 211

        , is there anything I should change in slider?
        The hit distribution for your offense looks good. Just need to lower the batting average. What team are you using and what level of difficulty are you at? With those numbers you should be pretty high.
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        • bubs3141
          Pro
          • Aug 2002
          • 854

          #1174
          Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

          Originally posted by bryanm1982
          The hit distribution for your offense looks good. Just need to lower the batting average. What team are you using and what level of difficulty are you at? With those numbers you should be pretty high.

          Yankees. I turned on dynamic so hitting I am veteran plus and pitching rookie plus.


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          • bryanm1982
            MVP
            • Nov 2016
            • 3788

            #1175
            Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

            Originally posted by bubs3141
            Yankees. I turned on dynamic so hitting I am veteran plus and pitching rookie plus.


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            I would raise the dynamic slider all the way to 10 if you haven’t already. That way it will bump up faster and your numbers should balance out when you get closer to Allstar.
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            • bubs3141
              Pro
              • Aug 2002
              • 854

              #1176
              Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

              Ok thanks. I will give it a go. And check back after another 20 games.


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              • HeadCoach2.0
                Pro
                • Jan 2023
                • 713

                #1177
                Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                Still haven't been able to play as many games as I would like. Once I finally get rolling the games are going to start going by fast.

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                • baseballguy99
                  Pro
                  • Mar 2019
                  • 933

                  #1178
                  Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                  Do you guys know if the “plus” ranges in dynamic difficulty actually make a difference? I tried pitching on legend vs legend plus and I don’t feel much difference. I wonder if it’s does anything?

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                  • bryanm1982
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2016
                    • 3788

                    #1179
                    Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                    Originally posted by baseballguy99
                    Do you guys know if the “plus” ranges in dynamic difficulty actually make a difference? I tried pitching on legend vs legend plus and I don’t feel much difference. I wonder if it’s does anything?
                    Steve tested out the PCI size of each difficulty and the changes between plus and the "base" is very minimal. So you probably wouldn't see much of a difference between them.

                    SDS really needs to adjust its difficulty settings. I know we are still on Allstar with bumped up sliders but there are many using Legend the past couple of years. 3-4 years ago pitching with classic with Legend Difficulty was unheard of. Or they need to separate them more. I think they added two easier difficulties last year...can't remember what they are called.
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                    • DarthRambo
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 6630

                      #1180
                      Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                      Yeah the only thing changing difficulty does is change the PCI size. If you drop to Veteran or lower hitting the pitch speed will be super slow. But other than that, PCI size is literally the only thing that changes. Nothing else under the hood or whatever. However between regular difficulty and the + of same difficulty the size difference is so minimal you can barely even see it.

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                      • jcar0725
                        "ADAPT OR DIE"
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 3821

                        #1181
                        Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                        I've been following this thread (lurking?) for a while now. Completely contrary to what I've been saying for a month, now I'm having issues with this game that I wasn't having before.

                        Using classic pitching, the CPU has been acting strangely and I can't put my finger on why. I have NEVER been a slider guy. For 21 and 22 I was on AS+ for hitting and pitching (default sliders, classic, directional) and never had to mess with any sliders.

                        So for the past month playing the CPU, my pitching staff is WAY overpowering the CPU, and my staff for the most part sucks and should be terrible. I just played a game against SD and literally shut them down by just throwing fastballs down the middle over and over and not even aiming.

                        I want pitching to be stressful. I have pitchers that are literally painting corners at will. CPU hitters that don't swing at strike 1 down the middle, don't swing at strike 2 down the middle, and then swing and miss at a slider out of the zone strike 3.

                        I have no problem with how my hitting has been going, its the pitching that concerns me. And I am trying not to jump to conclusions too quickly, but my SF rebuild franchise hasn't been as fun as it should be because the team's pitching has been WAY too dominant.

                        So I'm considering my options that's why I'm lurking on your thread. LOL.
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                        • bryanm1982
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2016
                          • 3788

                          #1182
                          Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                          Originally posted by jcar0725
                          I've been following this thread (lurking?) for a while now. Completely contrary to what I've been saying for a month, now I'm having issues with this game that I wasn't having before.

                          Using classic pitching, the CPU has been acting strangely and I can't put my finger on why. I have NEVER been a slider guy. For 21 and 22 I was on AS+ for hitting and pitching (default sliders, classic, directional) and never had to mess with any sliders.

                          So for the past month playing the CPU, my pitching staff is WAY overpowering the CPU, and my staff for the most part sucks and should be terrible. I just played a game against SD and literally shut them down by just throwing fastballs down the middle over and over and not even aiming.

                          I want pitching to be stressful. I have pitchers that are literally painting corners at will. CPU hitters that don't swing at strike 1 down the middle, don't swing at strike 2 down the middle, and then swing and miss at a slider out of the zone strike 3.

                          I have no problem with how my hitting has been going, its the pitching that concerns me. And I am trying not to jump to conclusions too quickly, but my SF rebuild franchise hasn't been as fun as it should be because the team's pitching has been WAY too dominant.

                          So I'm considering my options that's why I'm lurking on your thread. LOL.
                          I feel you. That is what we experience when we go on default. You probably either have to bump up sliders or go to Legend. I don't even think HOF would even make a big difference.

                          I know these are way out of the box for you especially since you are used to default. But plug these in and try them. You might be surprised.

                          I have been playing a Dodger franchise and have played 12 games so far. I have actually tried our sliders and have played 3 games using our sliders and using RMIOK's pitching sliders on Legend. Which are closer to default. And honestly, the games feel the same to me. So what we have is similar to default Legend.

                          When we did our latest testing...we tested CPU contact at 6 and the CPU hitters would not swing at strikes and would have so many called strike 3 calls.
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                          • jcar0725
                            "ADAPT OR DIE"
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 3821

                            #1183
                            Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                            Originally posted by bryanm1982
                            I feel you. That is what we experience when we go on default. You probably either have to bump up sliders or go to Legend. I don't even think HOF would even make a big difference.

                            I know these are way out of the box for you especially since you are used to default. But plug these in and try them. You might be surprised.

                            I have been playing a Dodger franchise and have played 12 games so far. I have actually tried our sliders and have played 3 games using our sliders and using RMIOK's pitching sliders on Legend. Which are closer to default. And honestly, the games feel the same to me. So what we have is similar to default Legend.

                            When we did our latest testing...we tested CPU contact at 6 and the CPU hitters would not swing at strikes and would have so many called strike 3 calls.
                            I will give these a try later tonight and see what happens. I know I need to test them over a period of time and not just one game. But I'll keep following what you guys are doing. I really have never had this issue before and I see that some guys on OS are saying they aren't having any issues, and I was even saying that a few weeks ago.

                            Last night I tried default sliders on legend using meter pitching, and the result was MUCH better. Mistakes were getting punished and pitcher control was not nearly as predictable..... So that made me wonder if the issue is with classic pitching?????

                            I really dont want to stick with meter pitching I don't really like using the meter.
                            Last edited by jcar0725; 05-09-2023, 10:27 AM.
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                            • bryanm1982
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2016
                              • 3788

                              #1184
                              Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                              Originally posted by jcar0725
                              I will give these a try later tonight and see what happens. I know I need to test them over a period of time and not just one game. But I'll keep following what you guys are doing. I really have never had this issue before and I see that some guys on OS are saying they aren't having any issues, and I was even saying that a few weeks ago.

                              Last night I tried default sliders on legend using meter pitching, and the result was MUCH better. Mistakes were getting punished and pitcher control was not nearly as predictable..... So that made me wonder if the issue is with classic pitching?????

                              I really dont want to stick with meter pitching I don't really like using the meter.
                              I know Rmiok uses classic pitching on Legend so maybe try Classic on Legend. I think you saw the difference because you were on Legend and not just because it was meter. You'll probably see the same thing if you used meter on Allstar. Probably even worse cause the meter would be slower on Allstar, correct?
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                              • baseballguy99
                                Pro
                                • Mar 2019
                                • 933

                                #1185
                                Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                                Originally posted by bryanm1982
                                I feel you. That is what we experience when we go on default. You probably either have to bump up sliders or go to Legend. I don't even think HOF would even make a big difference.

                                I know these are way out of the box for you especially since you are used to default. But plug these in and try them. You might be surprised.

                                I have been playing a Dodger franchise and have played 12 games so far. I have actually tried our sliders and have played 3 games using our sliders and using RMIOK's pitching sliders on Legend. Which are closer to default. And honestly, the games feel the same to me. So what we have is similar to default Legend.

                                When we did our latest testing...we tested CPU contact at 6 and the CPU hitters would not swing at strikes and would have so many called strike 3 calls.

                                I’ve tried some extreme adjustments on legend pitching. I zeroed out my control and consistency using pinpoint, and pushed cpu timing to 10 and they still struggle. I’ve even tried contact and power at 6 with timing at 10.. yes pinpoint might be more effective than classic, but I miss my spots consistently and they go unpunished they just don’t feel threatening

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