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  • Jayyd11
    Rookie
    • Jan 2023
    • 194

    #1396
    Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

    Originally posted by baseballguy99
    Are you guys really seeing less strikeouts with user control and consistency at 5 ?
    I am I haven’t played this game in a while finally having fun with it again. Use set 2 with 5/5 user pitching & steal base frequency back to 5
    Last edited by Jayyd11; 07-04-2023, 09:09 AM.

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    • bryanm1982
      MVP
      • Nov 2016
      • 3788

      #1397
      Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

      Originally posted by Jayyd11
      I am I haven’t played this game in a while finally having fun with it again. Use set 2 with 5/5 user pitching & steal base frequency back to 5
      It is crazy that we are seeing that. We been testing at 5/5 and found a sweet spot. We tried lowering consistency to 3 and the strikeouts come back. You raise control or consistency to 6 and the strikeouts come back. I played 8 games with this test set and averaged 8.25 K per game. I have always been averaging around 10. Just need to figure out how to tone the offense down a little. Here’s what we are testing using Allstar.

      CPU
      Contact - 10
      Power - 4
      Timing - 10
      Foul - 5
      Solid hits - 3 or 4
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      • Jayyd11
        Rookie
        • Jan 2023
        • 194

        #1398
        Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

        Originally posted by bryanm1982
        It is crazy that we are seeing that. We been testing at 5/5 and found a sweet spot. We tried lowering consistency to 3 and the strikeouts come back. You raise control or consistency to 6 and the strikeouts come back. I played 8 games with this test set and averaged 8.25 K per game. I have always been averaging around 10. Just need to figure out how to tone the offense down a little. Here’s what we are testing using Allstar.

        CPU
        Contact - 10
        Power - 4
        Timing - 10
        Foul - 5
        Solid hits - 3 or 4
        Yeah sane thing I just play the Yankees with the Phillies and score was 4-3 I only had 7ks the game before was 6 against the rangers

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        • jcar0725
          "ADAPT OR DIE"
          • Aug 2010
          • 3821

          #1399
          Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

          I play on classic pitching on legend and have used default pitching sliders, and it's been great. So I can confirm I've been telling people they should leave those pitching sliders alone.

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          • DarthRambo
            MVP
            • Mar 2008
            • 6630

            #1400
            Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

            Originally posted by baseballguy99
            Are you guys really seeing less strikeouts with user control and consistency at 5 ?
            You won't issue any walks unless you use QC, and even then it's rare. But strikeouts are lower with maxed contact and timing. Lowered consistency, it causes pitches to miss far off target which is what we want to see on a somewhat regular basis from pitch to pitch.

            Unfortunately, the cpu (been this way forever) swing at pitches way off target too often. Then at the same time, look at a ball just barely off the plate. It's very odd.

            In years past, the cpu would make contact and foul off some of those way off target pitches. This year they are never making contact so it's really increased the strikeouts.

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            Last edited by DarthRambo; 07-04-2023, 07:40 PM.
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            • bryanm1982
              MVP
              • Nov 2016
              • 3788

              #1401
              Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

              Yeah, I think with any lower pitching control and consistency the cpu batters chase more. I have actually had multiple games where I walked 3-4 batters with default control and consistency.
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              • jcar0725
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                • Aug 2010
                • 3821

                #1402
                Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                Originally posted by bryanm1982
                Yeah, I think with any lower pitching control and consistency the cpu batters chase more. I have actually had multiple games where I walked 3-4 batters with default control and consistency.
                Yeah same. I'm on legend like I said but I get enough walks on default pitching control and consistency. I dont mean to hijack your thread just trying to help out.

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                • bryanm1982
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2016
                  • 3788

                  #1403
                  Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                  Originally posted by jcar0725
                  Yeah same. I'm on legend like I said but I get enough walks on default pitching control and consistency. I dont mean to hijack your thread just trying to help out.

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                  You are fine. I appreciate your input. Sometimes it’s better to talk in here than the general threads.
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                  • northmen24
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 1062

                    #1404
                    Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                    I made the changes you noted on the previous page and had a great game with them.

                    CPU
                    Contact - 10
                    Power - 4
                    Timing - 10
                    Foul - 5
                    Solid hits - 3 or 4 I went with 3 for the first game
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                    • The Kid 24
                      It's Show Time!
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 14764

                      #1405
                      Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                      Originally posted by bryanm1982
                      It is crazy that we are seeing that. We been testing at 5/5 and found a sweet spot. We tried lowering consistency to 3 and the strikeouts come back. You raise control or consistency to 6 and the strikeouts come back. I played 8 games with this test set and averaged 8.25 K per game. I have always been averaging around 10. Just need to figure out how to tone the offense down a little. Here’s what we are testing using Allstar.

                      CPU
                      Contact - 10
                      Power - 4
                      Timing - 10
                      Foul - 5
                      Solid hits - 3 or 4
                      Will we still see double digit K games? I'm nervous to try these with the max Contact and Timing for CPU...

                      I actually like K's, LOL! But only when legit.
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                      • JohnU3990
                        Rookie
                        • Nov 2022
                        • 15

                        #1406
                        Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                        Originally posted by bryanm1982
                        It is crazy that we are seeing that. We been testing at 5/5 and found a sweet spot. We tried lowering consistency to 3 and the strikeouts come back. You raise control or consistency to 6 and the strikeouts come back. I played 8 games with this test set and averaged 8.25 K per game. I have always been averaging around 10. Just need to figure out how to tone the offense down a little. Here’s what we are testing using Allstar.

                        CPU
                        Contact - 10
                        Power - 4
                        Timing - 10
                        Foul - 5
                        Solid hits - 3 or 4

                        all star+ or regular all star?

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                        • bryanm1982
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2016
                          • 3788

                          #1407
                          Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                          Originally posted by JohnU3990
                          all star+ or regular all star?
                          This is Allstar. We haven't tested them on Allstar+ but it could work if you are wanting more of a challenge.
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                          • bryanm1982
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2016
                            • 3788

                            #1408
                            Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                            Version 4 is posted on the OP. This should hopefully be the last version of 23 as we feel this is as locked in as we are going to get with these. We FINALLY were able to tone down strikeouts using Allstar. Don't get the contact and timing at 10 scare you off. The lower power and solid hits balances it out. In 16 games, we have averaged 8.6 K per game. We have NEVER had those results in 2023. So we are very hopeful this works. We have tried contact at 9 and you start seeing strikeouts again. We did raise fielder speed to 5 to help control their offense.

                            Here are the changes we have made.

                            CPU
                            Contact: 10
                            Power: 4
                            Timing: 10
                            Solid Hits: 3

                            User Control: 5
                            User Consistency: 5

                            Fielder Speed: 5

                            User SP Stamina: 6
                            User RP Stamina: 7

                            Baserunner Speed: 2 - were seeing too many plays at the plate. Also helps get a little more double plays that will help lower the strikeouts as well.
                            IF Arm Strength: Lowered to 1. Should be one less than baserunner speed.
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                            • bryanm1982
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2016
                              • 3788

                              #1409
                              Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                              Originally posted by The Kid 24
                              Will we still see double digit K games? I'm nervous to try these with the max Contact and Timing for CPU...

                              I actually like K's, LOL! But only when legit.
                              Hopefully, no. We have tested 16 games and averaged 8.6 per game. We weren't even able to come close to that number in our testing before.

                              We have seen games with 11-12 K per game and some with 4 per game. Strikeout pitchers will still get their K's. But you won't see pitchers like Greinke getting 11 K per game.
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                              • dowie
                                MVP
                                • Feb 2005
                                • 1986

                                #1410
                                Re: S & B’s Directional/Classic MLB 23 Sliders

                                Originally posted by bryanm1982
                                Hopefully, no. We have tested 16 games and averaged 8.6 per game. We weren't even able to come close to that number in our testing before.

                                We have seen games with 11-12 K per game and some with 4 per game. Strikeout pitchers will mstill get their K's. But you won't see pitchers like Greinke getting 11 K per game.
                                We’re these tested exclusively in a “quick count” environment?

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