Pro Yakyu Spirits 2010 pre-release thread

[kingdevin]

Re: Pro Yakyu Spirits 2010 pre-release thread

My observation is that the balls do curve left and right. There is good ball trajectory in this game. IMO, this is the most balance BB game to date PYS6. the Show is good but when it comes to the engine PYS is where its at... notice that u dont even really see a thread for bugs and glitches??

[MukaMuka]

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notice that u dont even really see a thread for bugs and glitches??

I think this is a result of the differences in philosophy between US and Japanese developers. For Japanese games they keep working on the gameplay and the core until it is perfect. There are almost never any bugs but at the same time you never get the really detailed franchise modes or what not you see in US games. Now with American baseball games, each year they try to add so much new content but they don't even make sure it works beforehand. As a result you get huge lists of bugs and promises that these bugs will be fixed wiht patches, then next year arrives and there are even more new features and more bugs. I grew up on 8-bit and 16-bit video games so it's hard for me still to accept that games with so many bugs and glitches are allowed to be released. Imagine how the consumers would react if this were back in the dasy! But I guess that's just how this new online generation is with patches and stuff.

[kingdevin]

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I think this is a result of the differences in philosophy between US and Japanese developers. For Japanese games they keep working on the gameplay and the core until it is perfect. There are almost never any bugs but at the same time you never get the really detailed franchise modes or what not you see in US games. Now with American baseball games, each year they try to add so much new content but they don't even make sure it works beforehand. As a result you get huge lists of bugs and promises that these bugs will be fixed wiht patches, then next year arrives and there are even more new features and more bugs. I grew up on 8-bit and 16-bit video games so it's hard for me still to accept that games with so many bugs and glitches are allowed to be released. Imagine how the consumers would react if this were back in the dasy! But I guess that's just how this new online generation is with patches and stuff.

Sounds like your an old schooler like myself..i.e. Intellivision baseball was the first b-ball game I played and I loved it. Your analysis sounds so spot on and makes perfect sense. I've always felt that sk baseball should outsource Konami for its baseball game. Imagine that engine w/MLB!!!

I am still working w/the show to see if i will like it. I dont do RTTS and all that. As an old schooler, I just like to put people in place and essentially "coach"/watch games. PYS watch mode is beautiful b/c it was basically created for folks like me. This yr the Show's cam angles dont allow mw to watch wide batting and medium or high fielding simultaneously. In addition, if they had the delay on the pitcher/outfield angle (where when batter hits ball u get to see the direction of where its hit a second b4 the camera shifts to field). I would watch that. I think that u are right, they try to do too much...

Are u getting pys 2010?

[MukaMuka]

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Yeah I am definitely getting PYS 2010. I will post my first impression when I get it (hopefully the first 2 weeks of april depending how busy work is)

not sure why i gave myself a thumb down icon lol

[MukaMuka]

Re: Pro Yakyu Spirits 2010 pre-release thread

Holy smoke, I went back to the website to look around since I was bored, and I noticed that you can actually purchase "Unlock Action Play in Grandprix Mode" in the shop! YES YES YES thats all I wanted!! So you can actually play baseball instead of manage only in the new card collector mode!! now I know exactly what mode I will spending over 50-100 hours in!!!!!!!!!!

[MukaMuka]

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hi there. BigManZam and i have actually known each other for a very long time (well, on the internet). long story short, i guess 10 years or so again we were both wrestling fans and we used to posta a lot on Japanese wrestling game boards. then we discovered all these japanese baseball games together and he and i prob had the most in-depth English discussions about japanese baseball games on the whole WWW (translation: we couldnt find another english speaker who cared about these games as much as we did, lol) i dont know where he is now, but i think he is probably still playing. he is the nice one though as he always took the time to do the translation. im just really lazy (my excuse always is "work is too busy", lol). i think since 90% of the menus will be the same i can just point you guys to his previous guides as the base. what would be really convenient though is if you guys can take a screenshot/cap of what you have trouble understanding then i can just look at the JPG and tell you what it is and explain it a bit more. i am very open to helping out though.

[gigadkc]

Re: Pro Yakyu Spirits 2010 pre-release thread

hey guys, anybody knowing a shop that ships this game to Europe? I live in Germany and unfortunately play-asia doesn't ship to the EU

Anyway, I thought about buying PYS 5 and 6 but didn't do it because of the japanese language. But I'll give it a try this year and hope that the language won't be a big problem.

[simgamer0005]

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Hey Simgamer, timing-only batting is the feature of choice for many western based baseball games, MLB2k10's batting is based on it as well as the Show 10 to a degree... its much easier in terms of making contact but you could make it a challenge by upping the pitch speed, PYS has by no means removed the cursor batting system, its just expanded on a timing only batting feature...

To me, there's no reason to add this feature. I'll never use it. You wouldn't get the hit variety nor the satisfaction of getting a hit with cursor hitting.

So this essentially will add a 6th option to the "batting types"? I'd much rather see PYS add a right analog stick MVP 06/07-like swing timing that can be used with or without cursor batting on the left analog stick.

I doubt anyone would use this feature. Beginners may use it, but the cursor batting is what makes the game unique and realistic. Timing only batting with no aiming required to me has no place in PYS. The options already have Normal, Normal(big), Area, Lock-on, and Zone hitting.

With these options, you have the ability to make hitting easy or hard. Just my two cents and maybe some will find it good to learn with, but to me, it doesn't add anything to the game. I wish they would add something like right analog swinging combined with cursor hitting (or any other hitting) instead of adding an option i'll never use.

[simgamer0005]

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Oh yeah man the hit variety with the cursor based batting system in this game is second to none. Screaming liners, towering homers, dribblers, seeing eye singles, bloops, flairs, pop-ups, choppers, everything... and as far as spin on batted balls its there, i've hit balls that have curved before the foul pole, into the foul pole, around the foul pole, as well as hit the other way and have balls spin just foul before they land... btw this game gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "plays great right out of the box" there's no BS sliders for contact, power, fielding speed, arm strength, because the NPB league is so much smaller than the MLB the developers take their time with each team and really get the stats and abilities for each player into the game, every pitcher feels different and every batter feels different, you'll know and have to adjust your game accordingly if you up there with a juan pierre( Munenori Kawasaki)slap single hitter or an adam dunn(Takeya Nakamura) K or homer type, or an albert pujols(tuffy rhodes) i hit everything, anywhere, everytime type

This is excellent description of why PYS is unlike any baseball game. The way pitches curve and strike the bat, and the way the ball comes off the bat based on your timing and cursor location is indeed second to none. It's up to you to try to make the best of every pitch. You realize that based on the type of pitch and pitch location, you can only hit the ball to a portion of the field. Every batter has a different cursor size, and based on the hot or cold spots of the batter, the cursor gets bigger or smaller. It makes every pitcher - batter situation different, and requires the highest level of hand-eye coordination to be a consistent hitter.

Also it has the best bunting system in any game by far since the bunting is also handled by a cursor and you can pinpoint your bunt left or right.

[MukaMuka]

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Brand new, 3-minute long trailer is available on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuMMmKoSQGo

CAN'T WAIT.

[kingdevin]

Re: Pro Yakyu Spirits 2010 pre-release thread

Looks good.. whats really diff this year???

[spit_bubble]

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Brand new, 3-minute long trailer is available on youtube...

Good find.

At about 1:10 a hitter swings at a fork ball (?) well outside of the zone. Hopefully this year's version deals with that aspect of baseball better, both in terms of CPU hitters chasing bad pitches and CPU pitchers trying to get you to chase bad pitches far outside the zone.

Also, I've used google to translate some of the previews to see if I can find out any other information. From what I can tell it seems the "Grand Prix" mode is not only a team building mode but also a tournament mode??? I can't say for sure as the translations are a bit sloppy. If it's true that would be a good addition.

[spit_bubble]

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hey guys, anybody knowing a shop that ships this game to Europe? I live in Germany...

japanvideogames.com

Though they don't have 2010 listed yet.

[MukaMuka]

Re: Pro Yakyu Spirits 2010 pre-release thread

Looks good.. whats really diff this year???

here is my previous post just in case yo missed it:

- Updated roster - Johjima is back from the US, 2 big Korean league acquistions, new hyped up rookies, etc
- New Rookie mode controls - 1 button pitching (no release point), timing-only batting, auto fielding, etc
- Grandprix mode - basically the offline, action version of the popular PYS6 online card manager mode. You start off with a base team which consists of minor league/bench players and as you earn points from games you can buy new pack of cards and acquire better players. All your cards can level up and become better too. The default mode is Manage only so you only give the occasional "walk the batter/try to steal 2nd" commands. But you can also unlock full action play and actually play baseball in this mode. This will be extremely addictive and it is easily my main reason of purchase.
- minor graphical touches - batted balls now have a flashy trail line when it leaves the bat. thats the most obvious to me.

[MukaMuka]

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From what I can tell it seems the "Grand Prix" mode is not only a team building mode but also a tournament mode??? I can't say for sure as the translations are a bit sloppy. If it's true that would be a good addition.

Yes you are right, I did not go into too much details but I would love to. In Grandprix there are a bunch of tournaments you can enter. For example, there is one called "Limit Ball Cup" (ROFL @ the name). There is a pitch count restriction for this tournament and if you win you get 6000 points and also a special 5~15 star level card. Another one is called "Fresh Cup". You can only have players under 10 stars in your deck, essentially making this a rookie/young players tournament. You will also win item cards that can reduce your fatigue or earn you extra experience. This mode will be a time killer I guarantee it!