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  • infamouslover22
    Banned
    • Feb 2003
    • 193

    #76
    Re: POTD 2/14/06

    Originally posted by thmst30
    If you take the 2K presentation and graphics and put it with MVP animations and gameplay. You have a damn good game.
    i agree with the presentation but the player models suck in 2k... they make a great football and basketball game but baseball they suck... and i rather have froot of the loom have the presentation for EA than having segas gameplay..

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    • Erratic
      Pro
      • Mar 2004
      • 708

      #77
      Re: POTD 2/14/06

      Originally posted by infamouslover22
      yea 2k5 was a real sim... please bro dont insult us like that by saying that we dont know sim cuz we like mvp... 2k5 was not a sim game.. just look at the bugs that it has with franchise mode and the pass ball... the game lacked so much... first of all a game is suppose to be fun... so i for one want to be the one playing and doing the things.. and animations make the gameplay run better. in 2k the animations and bugs were to much to handle... just cuz we like to play on line or start a season dont mean we are not sim... the swing stick and fielding stick are much better in mvp cuz they are smooth due to the sweet animations.. if you want real baseball like you said then get front page baseball for the pc and manage your team like that and be a gm.. cuz it seems that playing the game means nothing to you..
      Dude. Where did I say you weren't sim. Plus, read what I wrote.. I don't run a franchise, and look at what you wrote. " just look at the bugs that it has with franchise mode and the pass ball... " COME ON MAN... Read what I right... 2k5 was for me because I play online or against real people. That stuff wasn't a problem for me. The animations don't bother me, because I've played older games with worse ones, but they have had solid gameplay mechanics... Animations have no affect on gameplay... You said they were smooth. I don't care, if I don't like the hitting system or fielding meters then I don't care if it looks like a seamless movie because their core gameplay isn't what I'm about... It's like a lot of people here were born just when this gen came out or something... I still play NES games, (and I'm only 20, so I don't know where this graphics craze came from) because they were good games... Imagine that, playing a game for it's content and core, instead of it's graphics and looks....

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      • jim416
        Banned
        • Feb 2003
        • 10606

        #78
        Re: POTD 2/14/06

        Wow... nothing like telling a baseball person they're not "sim" in order to get a rise out of them. For the hundredth time, Blzer: all the guy did was post his opinion. GET OFF PEOPLE'S BACKS.

        Bump.

        I am a 17 year old kid that's fed up with [not opinions, but] an opinion that I may disagree with

        You're fed up with opinions that you disagree with? Really, come on, use some tact, and as baa7 says give people a break. I really don't think people care that you are fed up because you don't agree with them. A little less of the "I" word would go a long ways.

        Have you taken the shrink wrap off this game yet? Neither have I, so it's all opinions.

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        • infamouslover22
          Banned
          • Feb 2003
          • 193

          #79
          Re: POTD 2/14/06

          Originally posted by Erratic
          Dude. Where did I say you weren't sim. Plus, read what I wrote.. I don't run a franchise, and look at what you wrote. " just look at the bugs that it has with franchise mode and the pass ball... " COME ON MAN... Read what I right... 2k5 was for me because I play online or against real people. That stuff wasn't a problem for me. The animations don't bother me, because I've played older games with worse ones, but they have had solid gameplay mechanics... Animations have no affect on gameplay... You said they were smooth. I don't care, if I don't like the hitting system or fielding meters then I don't care if it looks like a seamless movie because their core gameplay isn't what I'm about... It's like a lot of people here were born just when this gen came out or something... I still play NES games, (and I'm only 20, so I don't know where this graphics craze came from) because they were good games... Imagine that, playing a game for it's content and core, instead of it's graphics and looks....

          dude i love high heat baseball and you cant have worst graphics and animations for that game.. but it was a real sim.. mlb2k is not a sim... not when robbing home runs and diving catches were easy with any player.. you tell me what is sim about mlb2k.... and you are wrong if you say that animations dont tie in to what makes gameplay.... if you have crappy animations the game feels sluggish and weak... mvp is all sim and with the great animations it just feels right... i was tired of getting a grounder to jeter at short and i run towards the ball and he scoops it up and throws like a girl across the field.. in mvp the same play happens but with the sweet animations tying into the throw it makes the game that much more fun... so how do you explain that mlb2k is more of a sim then mvp....how does it reflect baseball more then mvp

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          • Erratic
            Pro
            • Mar 2004
            • 708

            #80
            Re: POTD 2/14/06

            Originally posted by infamouslover22
            dude i love high heat baseball and you cant have worst graphics and animations for that game.. but it was a real sim.. mlb2k is not a sim... not when robbing home runs and diving catches were easy with any player.. you tell me what is sim about mlb2k.... and you are wrong if you say that animations dont tie in to what makes gameplay.... if you have crappy animations the game feels sluggish and weak... mvp is all sim and with the great animations it just feels right... i was tired of getting a grounder to jeter at short and i run towards the ball and he scoops it up and throws like a girl across the field.. in mvp the same play happens but with the sweet animations tying into the throw it makes the game that much more fun... so how do you explain that mlb2k is more of a sim then mvp....how does it reflect baseball more then mvp
            How the ball looks in the air doesn't impact the game... Whether jeter looks like Richard Simmons or himself when he throws the ball doesn't impact the game... I preferred 2k5's hitting to MVP 05's. I didn't like the feel of MVP's nor did I like their pitching meter. I was playing my friend and we had an 18 inning game. Randy Johnson went all 18 innings for me and didn't get tired. I lost one nothing because my friend got a double, stole 3rd and scored on a squeeze... I was laughing but didn't think that was fun... In 2k5 (I play on Legend) if I tried to go 18 innings I would have given up 90 runs because the hitter would be jacking the ball over and over... Now take that example and remember I play online and against friends. Most people online play to win, and not to replicate rl. MVP wasn't for me... I haven't tried this years game, but wont because I have no interest in NCAA. I will rent both 2k6 and MLB and then I'll make a decision...

            Plus I never claimed 2k5 was perfect. The diving catches and hr robs bugged me but that was all that bugged me... I am really glad that also 2k6 will have to aim where the ball starts instead of ends this year. Will make online and rl games better... So maybe franchise was bugged, maybe there was a passed ball glitch. I didn't experience any of it, because I am not into that stuff.
            Last edited by Erratic; 02-15-2006, 11:06 AM.

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            • aholbert32
              (aka Alberto)
              • Jul 2002
              • 33106

              #81
              Re: POTD 2/14/06

              Originally posted by queens211
              Puhleze you 2k homer. I am entitled to an opinion as are you. Why are you getting so defensive about a video game?????????? If you want to buy into the VIP/Inside Edge/Swing Stick hype than go ahead...its your money.

              If you really think those features you listed make you more hardcore sim than me than.......oh good Lord what's the point? Have fun with MLB 2k5....er I mean 2k6.

              What is Pure Movement System anyway? Sounds like a fancy marketing term to me. Because those batting swings are the furthest thing from pure movement.
              Watch the personal attacks...you have been warned.

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              • bigfnjoe96
                Hall Of Fame
                • Feb 2004
                • 11410

                #82
                Re: POTD 2/14/06

                Originally posted by inkcil
                Video 1 brief thoughts:

                Love the IE showing us the % a pitcher throws a particular type of pitch

                Crowd a little too mum on the Mike Lowell homerun.

                Was that the past ball glitch? I hope not, since some reported it fixed for the WSE.

                Now for the Biggies: (please, baa, blzr, jim...help me w/these)

                On close play at first, runner (Cora) was safe but turned towards second base. Why don't they fix this? If you beat out a throw you have to turn towards the dugout, b/c turning towards 2nd base makes you still in play and you can be tagged out. That's still the rule, right?!!!!! Gee whiz!

                On Ortiz's hit, he runs and crosses 1st base as if he beat out a close play at first. What is up with that? Look at him in the little box at the bottom of the screen during his hit. When have you ever seen a guy get a hit to left center and not round first, much less run through the bag. Why is he running through the first base bag on a hit to left center?!??? This is inexcusable!

                I can't even take the time to comment on videos 2 and 3 tonight.

                Note: Exact same "Biggies" were in 2k5!!
                Note: Biggie = overt lack of attention to obvious details

                Inkcil, on the Cora play, as long as you don't go pass the baseline into the field of play you are alright. But I totally agree, most players turn towards the dugout & not towards the field of play

                As for the Ortiz hit. You are correct. I still can't believe they haven't fix that. The only thing I can think of is maybe the AUTO-ROUND BASE was OFF during the time the video was shot.

                I'm not sure what people are actually looking for in this title that EVERYONE is basically throwing this game under a truck, before the game hit's the street. I understand some people's frustrations especially xbox owners with this being the only MLB title on that system. It seems like everyone was expecting a totally re-vamped game from the bottom-up. We'll that's not happening because that process was started with last years title. As for my MVP bethren, I understand your frustration. I have felt this way for the last year, with no NFL 2K Football.

                I personally will be purchasing the 360 version, because I basically DONE with this GEN, except for my leagues in NFL 2K5. Hopefully we will see some improvements on the 360 version.

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                • dabears2121
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 107

                  #83
                  Re: POTD 2/14/06

                  I just gonna stay my opinion on these videos. I like the commentary. The bat hitting the ball sounds like I just broke a stick over my knee. I am just not that impressed with this game at all. I think I might just have to "wait till next year"(ha).
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                  • SoMiss2000
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 20499

                    #84
                    Re: POTD 2/14/06

                    Yeah, I hate the sound of the bat. I was going to post that right after viewing the movies.
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                    • bigfnjoe96
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 11410

                      #85
                      Re: POTD 2/14/06

                      Originally posted by SoMiss2000
                      Yeah, I hate the sound of the bat. I was going to post that right after viewing the movies.
                      The sound of the bat after the ball is hit & very annoying....

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                      • snowmizer
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 388

                        #86
                        Re: POTD 2/14/06

                        Originally posted by bigfnjoe96
                        Inkcil, on the Cora play, as long as you don't go pass the baseline into the field of play you are alright. But I totally agree, most players turn towards the dugout & not towards the field of play
                        Just to put a bullet into this rule-related issue:

                        The batter-runner must start an attempt to go to second. The direction he turns, his position with the baseline, any other old wives' tale you can think of... they don't exist. They're as mythical as unicorns, leprechauns, and "hands are part of the bat".

                        It's long been taught to pro umpires that an attempt, for this rule, is one step towards second, with any motion of the other leg then starting in the same direction. If somehow, perhaps just to fake a distraction, the batter-runner just takes that first step without moving the other leg in such a manner, he can still stroll safely back to first.

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                        • skinz
                          Rookie
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 308

                          #87
                          Re: POTD 2/14/06

                          Finally saw the clips and got some comments on it.

                          1) The presentation of the game is basically the same as last years except the replays. I think this is good because the presentation was MLB 2k5 strongest points.

                          2) Some of the throwing animations are still bad, the infield throwing are the worst IMO. When Loretta popped to 2nd, Cano threw a horrendous throw to first that went down. And when Ortiz (which his stance is bad) hit it to left, Matsui threw a bad throw to second that went down also. However, when Rameriz hit it to first and Giambi made the error, Giambi got up and his throwing animation was perfect. And when Cora got the grounder from Damon he threw it good. So I still don't know if the animations are really improved or not. I'm guessing that the throwing animations could be bad if you rush your throws and better if you don't.

                          3) the error to Giambi looked weird to me. The ball moved way too much for a little chipper by ramirez and the ball went backwards when giambi dived for it when it should've moved forward.

                          4) When Lowell hit the 3-run homer, the PA announced Varitek before the the cutscene was over.

                          5) I didn't like all the swinging on 0-0. If the game is using Inside Edge than the batters should behave like their stats would. For example, Ortiz swung on 0-0 when he's usually waiting on he can handle.

                          6) A-rod homer should've been a hit to left center of left field because he was obviously pulling the ball. Why did it tail to the right? The wind was out to center at 16mph.

                          7) It was 20F degrees at Fenway park but the cutscenes showed the fans with short sleeves shirts and shorts.


                          Other than that, it looked alright. Yeah the batting swings are bad and some animations are bad also, but if the glitches are fixed and someone can create good sliders to make it play real than it could be a good game.

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                          • jim416
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 10606

                            #88
                            Re: POTD 2/14/06

                            Other than that, it looked alright. Yeah the batting swings are bad and some animations are bad also, but if the glitches are fixed and someone can create good sliders to make it play real than it could be a good game.

                            Exactly. It's not so bad that good gameplay won't fix it.

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                            • therizing02
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 4176

                              #89
                              Re: POTD 2/14/06

                              Wow. I just read through 9 pages of posts about the same stuff over and over and again. It's certainly not perfect, but if the gameplay is there then I'm going to be happy.

                              I've also noticed that it's safe to post negative comments about the game during school hours. But oh boy, wait 'til recess.

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                              • backbreaker
                                Banned
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 3991

                                #90
                                Re: POTD 2/14/06

                                I like how the edge percentages changes for each situation, be it 2 on, 1 out, and 1 strike. The location changes from player to player, Just a quick overview from watching Randy Johnson pitching. I think thats pretty cool.

                                Watch the Manny Sequence. Inside Edge has Randy throwing A slider at 30 some odd percent, a fast ball at 30 some odd percent and a 2seamFB at 14%. This is pitch #1 and he throws a 2seamFB runners on 1st and 2nd, pass ball ensues. Pitch 2, runners on 2nd and 3rd Inside Edge Slider/Fast ball 30 some odd % 2seam drops to 13%, he throws a FB down and in and gets hit.

                                Pretty good facsimile of Randy Johnson if you ask me.
                                Last edited by backbreaker; 02-15-2006, 02:48 PM.

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