Re: Why does 2k7 get a "free pass?"

[Dienekes]

Re: Why does 2k7 get a "free pass?"

The gameplay has improved so much from 2K5 or 2K6 and strangely enough, that is what they said they were going to work on.

Well I did notice it said improved franchise mode (or something similar) on the back of the box. We know they added new features to franchise. To me it appears they "touched" franchise mode. Unfortunately they CHOSE to do nothing about the bugs. This is why some of us are angry. They OBVIOUSLY made changes to franchise but did not adress issues they CERTAINLY knew about.

Just because I don't have the game does not mean I have not done my homework.

[Heelfan71]

Re: Why does 2k7 get a "free pass?"

There has been NO improvement to this game for me. That is what you guys are not understanding. I could care less about jerseys blowing in the wind and "the little things". The exact same franchise bugs as last year = no improvement. I play franchise. I don't touch exhibition, explain where the improvements are for me?

WTF are you talking about NO Improvement. You haven't even played the game. Believe what you want. I'll take this over MVP any day.

[ac11367]

Re: Why does 2k7 get a "free pass?"

For me, as long as my batting avg, ERA, W's and L's are tracked correctly, I'm happy.

[MrScary]

Re: Why does 2k7 get a "free pass?"

The reason I raise this question is because of the sentiment in most posts regarding this game's major issues.

I admit, I'm enjoying the game every chance I get to play it while over at a friends house... but I have yet to "pull the trigger" with the hopes these Franchise issues could somehow be addressed one way or another.

If Madden, NBA Live, and so on were to have these issues... it would just give some people even more of a reason to dump on EA Sports and the poor quality of some of their titles lately. Yet... you don't see that same "uproar" here...

Have people come to accept something that should have been caught given it was an issue last year? It almost seems like the franchise was glossed over but never really corrected. I don't understand how this is the case for the second year in a row. What's even MORE problematic is had they have left the ability to change CPU lineups in, this would be a non-issue. Annoyance? Yes... realism killing, unavoidable bug? No.

I want to buy the game but knowing I will only play Exhibition games because of the franchise issues is holding me back. I'm just curious what attitude most of you are taking in regards to the problems...?

Have you all pretty much just decided to "bite the bullet?" Because if that's the case then some other games shouldn't have been given the harsh treatment they were... it's almost as if the little details to the in-game action have made you overlook the franchise problems... similar to 2k...

U know what the real problem is? It's the fact these games come out every year, instead of every other year. This would give these developers time to fix these bugs and get out a better product. But that won't happen because "In God We Trust" the almighty dollar baby.

[Sportsforever]

Re: Why does 2k7 get a "free pass?"

Well I did notice it said improved franchise mode (or something similar) on the back of the box. We know they added new features to franchise. To me it appears they "touched" franchise mode. Unfortunately they CHOSE to do nothing about the bugs. This is why some of us are angry. They OBVIOUSLY made changes to franchise but did not adress issues they CERTAINLY knew about.

Just because I don't have the game does not mean I have not done my homework.

I'm not saying they don't need to "fix" franchise, but for the $60 I paid this year I am happy. The back of the box actually doesn't say "improved franchise" , it just lists the new things they put in, which are actually all there. They did revamp the way the interface looks. Bottomline is that the franchise mode can be better and hopefully they do improve it without breaking the gameplay, but I'm having fun with it and enjoying this year's version.

[milbrewcity]

Re: Why does 2k7 get a "free pass?"

To me it appears they "touched" franchise mode.

"Touched" is an understatement.

[Pared]

Re: Why does 2k7 get a "free pass?"

Yuppers, transactions are a pretty big part of baseball nowadays. That seems to be glossed over just as much.

While The Show's Franchise on PS2 does not correctly offer transactions between teams, one can turn on "Control CPU Teams" and make things happen true to life, as they see fit. That's the sort of control that this series used to have, and sadly, is no longer there.



All is fine and dandy on the PSP. I know this is off-topic, but just in case anyone was curious when making comparisons.

[Pared]

Re: Why does 2k7 get a "free pass?"

U know what the real problem is? It's the fact these games come out every year, instead of every other year. This would give these developers time to fix these bugs and get out a better product. But that won't happen because "In God We Trust" the almighty dollar baby.

I completely agree. But yearly releases will not change ANY time soon...

Given the proper manpower, I believe these companies CAN get these games done in under a year.

[Spectre]

Re: Why does 2k7 get a "free pass?"

While The Show's Franchise on PS2 does not correctly offer transactions between teams, one can turn on "Control CPU Teams" and make things happen true to life, as they see fit. That's the sort of control that this series used to have, and sadly, is no longer there.



All is fine and dandy on the PSP. I know this is off-topic, but just in case anyone was curious when making comparisons.

I think that's a terrible alternative to viable computer AI- its a damning mistake in the game. Personally, I don't play franchise mode with the goal of recreating the moves that happen in real life.

[milbrewcity]

Re: Why does 2k7 get a "free pass?"

Given the proper manpower, I believe these companies CAN get these games done in under a year.

I'm no expert here, but don't they spend more than a year to build these games though? Don't they "split" teams like 18 months beforehand to buy more time? Again not sure about this but that's how I thought these companies did it.

Don't know if throwing more manpower at the problem is the issue here. I think games will just get better and better every year.

Besides, if there was perfection, what would we have to look forward to next year?

[MrScary]

Re: Why does 2k7 get a "free pass?"

People love poor little 2ksports and their quest to knock off the evil EA. I feel many people here would buy a game pressed from fecal matter if it had 2ksports on it then immediately start trying to fix all the problems with it while simultaneously calling it a "masterpiece".

And that can hold true in the opposite.

[FocusYoMindOnDis]

Re: Why does 2k7 get a "free pass?"

If someone would have told me that A-Rod would be batting 8th at anytime during his career i would have been lmao. But it happened..point is this, it sucks because u expect to see things in the right place but at the end of the day i can live with it. I dont want to, but i can. Next year would be unaceptable...but here is what i dont want...i will not be happy if they pull an EA and try to "fix" the problem (ie. the fatigue bug from this year) with some lame gloss over without actually fixing the problemo....

[Rekkapryde]

Re: Why does 2k7 get a "free pass?"

The reason people are giving it a "free pass" is because there is no alternative on 360 systems.

Pretty much.

Not trying to start any flame wars, but at least PS3 owners have options (unless the alternatives suck as well).

[Heelfan71]

Re: Why does 2k7 get a "free pass?"

I think that's a terrible alternative to viable computer AI- its a damning mistake in the game. Personally, I don't play franchise mode with the goal of recreating the moves that happen in real life.

These are the people who are ALWAYS unhappy with every single game. It's like a vicious cylce. Sadly lots of people lost touch that this is a game.

1. Get excited about game
2. Buy game
3. Find supposive "game killer" bug

then they do the same thing every game release, every year.

[Dienekes]

Re: Why does 2k7 get a "free pass?"

comparing those things to a video game is a stretch. Bottom line is you have never played the game. So quit complaining about it.

Have you ever made love to a man (I am assuming you are not female or homosexual)? If not, how do you know you would not like it?

Drastic comparison? Yes. Fair? Absolutely. If the bugs in franchise mode exist (you are not saying they don't are you?) they would make this game unplayable for me. I don't need to buy or rent it to know that.

Are you honestly saying that you believe I don't have a right to complain without buying the game? I guess all the people who "boycott" Madden every year should take abreak from the forums next fall then, yeah right. We both know that won't happen.