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  • milbrewcity
    Rookie
    • May 2003
    • 270

    #61
    Re: MLB 2k7 Thoughts & Opinion on the Game

    Originally posted by jonpt
    I wanted a more true basball simulation as far as hitting goes
    Hate to burst your bubble here, but baseball reality is "see the ball hit the ball". I guess I'm just struggling to figure out what more could be done with the hitting interface to make it more entertaining for you.

    It's a tough call, people want more features, but then say it isn't realistic.

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    • Walker8
      Banned
      • Nov 2003
      • 980

      #62
      Re: MLB 2k7 Thoughts & Opinion on the Game

      I use the swing stick and dan's sliders and I don't see too many hr's so I dont know what you guys are talking about in that regard. Maybe it's the teams you guys are playing with. I use the Royals maybe that is why. I've also used the Red Sox several times and have had similar results though. I use hte swing stick and press up. It gives a good balance imo because if I power swing too much I also strike out a lot more. So usually early in the count ill use the power swing, but ill go with more of a contact swing later in the count.

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      • JT30
        MVP
        • Jul 2004
        • 2123

        #63
        Re: MLB 2k7 Thoughts & Opinion on the Game

        Originally posted by djep
        I have to agree with the original poster re: reading the pitches out of the pitcher's hand. It would help if they had the proper rotation for breaking pitches but the big thing to me is that all pitches have the same trajectory for the first 1/3 of their flight to homeplate, seemingly.
        ????????????? How many MLB hitters do you think can "read" the rotation or spin of the ball coming out of a pitcher's hand?

        MLB hitters look for a pitch to hit. Yes they try to pick up clues or tip offs of pitches, but very few have the ability to diagnose the rotation of the pitch and at the same time react in 0.1 seconds. This game gives you the option to look in a zone to hit the ball. MLB batters look for pitches in a zone and based on the count, will adjust accordingly.

        I don't know where you get this "read" of pitch stuff.... Nowadays they are throwing 90 mph splitters and 90+ sliders.. You think they can attempt to "read" a pitch with nastiness like that coming at them?

        No way

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        • JT30
          MVP
          • Jul 2004
          • 2123

          #64
          Re: MLB 2k7 Thoughts & Opinion on the Game

          Originally posted by jonpt
          I'm sorry but if that's what I got to do to not hit homeruns then it's not worth it. Just pushing a button to swing the bat and nothing else is 10 steps backwards in baseball video gaming. That is a very boring approach to hitting and that why I'm complaining. I wanted a more true basball simulation as far as hitting goes and this game does not deliver. Just pushing the a button is not even close.

          This is funny... What are you talking about? You have the option to look for a pitch in a zone, which is exactly what MLB hitters do. You also have the swing stick option which, with the step influence at 100, weighs timing very heavily... After all, batting is timing and looking in a zone.

          I dont see just pressing a button here... where do you get pressing a button is 10 steps backward? Its a video game for christ sakes.

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          • Brian Gee
            MVP
            • Mar 2004
            • 1938

            #65
            Re: MLB 2k7 Thoughts & Opinion on the Game

            I was about to ebay this game (remember my going, going, gone post?) or at the very least, trade it towards GRAW 2.

            Since I've been using sliders (heels), this game is a totally different ballgame.

            I'm 5 and 6 with the Rangers and EVERY game has been won or lost because of little things here, there and it just feels right. My pro season I was 11-1 with the Tigers and my All Star season I was 0-6 with the Indians (or something like that).

            The Rangers SHOULD be 5 and 6 (based on the schedule and how I've played). My first loss came when I left in my starter two batters too long...

            Really great stuff.
            The line must be drawn HERE! This far, no further!

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            • Mjphillips
              MVP
              • Feb 2005
              • 1153

              #66
              Re: MLB 2k7 Thoughts & Opinion on the Game

              Originally posted by DanSF49
              How about you guys stop trying to hit HRs by holding up with the Classic Swing?? Did you ever think of that? All you do is complain about HRs when you are attempting to hit them every pitch. Put Contact at 20 and Power at 30 and do not use the Left Stick at all. You will be lucky to hit 1 a game. I have my sliders posted in the sliders forum. Try them and bat like I said, dont touch the left stick and then come back and tell me how many HRs you hit then. Rant is over, I'm done........
              I have never played this game on the 360 and I am a MVP guy. Even on MVP if you held up it wouldn't go out of the park with that much frequency. I guess I am not used to not using the stick. On MVP you could use the stick to hit doubles etc. I didn't know that to reduce HR's you HAVE to not use the left stick.
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              • PsychoBulk
                Hoping for change...
                • May 2006
                • 4191

                #67
                Re: MLB 2k7 Thoughts & Opinion on the Game

                Originally posted by briangauler
                I was about to ebay this game (remember my going, going, gone post?) or at the very least, trade it towards GRAW 2.

                Since I've been using sliders (heels), this game is a totally different ballgame.

                I'm 5 and 6 with the Rangers and EVERY game has been won or lost because of little things here, there and it just feels right. My pro season I was 11-1 with the Tigers and my All Star season I was 0-6 with the Indians (or something like that).

                The Rangers SHOULD be 5 and 6 (based on the schedule and how I've played). My first loss came when I left in my starter two batters too long...

                Really great stuff.
                With you totally mate.

                This game is all about the sliders.

                Get them right and its a thing of beauty.

                Just hold off on that sale yeah?

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                • jonpt
                  MVP
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 1289

                  #68
                  Re: MLB 2k7 Thoughts & Opinion on the Game

                  Originally posted by milbrewcity
                  Hate to burst your bubble here, but baseball reality is "see the ball hit the ball". I guess I'm just struggling to figure out what more could be done with the hitting interface to make it more entertaining for you.

                  It's a tough call, people want more features, but then say it isn't realistic.
                  Maybe you misunderstood....I didn't want more features, I just wanted the features to work for me. They may work for you but someone else posted that maybe I should forget all the features and just press the a button to hit the ball. When's the last time you played a basball game and just pressed a button for timed hitting. That is not hitting. That is not "see the ball hit the ball", that is just "hit the ball" because it doesn't matter where the ball is in the zone.
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                  • Sportsforever
                    NL MVP
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 20368

                    #69
                    Re: MLB 2k7 Thoughts & Opinion on the Game

                    Originally posted by JT30
                    ????????????? How many MLB hitters do you think can "read" the rotation or spin of the ball coming out of a pitcher's hand?

                    MLB hitters look for a pitch to hit. Yes they try to pick up clues or tip offs of pitches, but very few have the ability to diagnose the rotation of the pitch and at the same time react in 0.1 seconds. This game gives you the option to look in a zone to hit the ball. MLB batters look for pitches in a zone and based on the count, will adjust accordingly.

                    I don't know where you get this "read" of pitch stuff.... Nowadays they are throwing 90 mph splitters and 90+ sliders.. You think they can attempt to "read" a pitch with nastiness like that coming at them?

                    No way
                    A MLB hitter most certainly does read the pitch out of a pitcher's hand. I played college baseball for 4 years facing pitchers who threw in the mid 90's, and we read the pitch out of a pitcher's hand. Was I able to say, "Oh, here comes a changeup, or slider, etc"? No, but dependant on the pitcher's skill you read the pitch out of the hand and can immediately tell if it's a breaking pitch or not. Sometimes you do see the seams real well and can read the pitch right away. All they would need to do in a videogame is ensure that they get the release correct (i.e. a breaking pitch moves up) and it would help out immensely.
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                    • JT30
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 2123

                      #70
                      Re: MLB 2k7 Thoughts & Opinion on the Game

                      Originally posted by Sportsforever
                      A MLB hitter most certainly does read the pitch out of a pitcher's hand. I played college baseball for 4 years facing pitchers who threw in the mid 90's, and we read the pitch out of a pitcher's hand. Was I able to say, "Oh, here comes a changeup, or slider, etc"? No, but dependant on the pitcher's skill you read the pitch out of the hand and can immediately tell if it's a breaking pitch or not. Sometimes you do see the seams real well and can read the pitch right away. All they would need to do in a videogame is ensure that they get the release correct (i.e. a breaking pitch moves up) and it would help out immensely.

                      A breaking pitch moves up? Not sure where you get that from... If you played college ball, and I did for 3 years... You would certainly know that a slider (breaking pitch) has very late movement and flys to the zone on the same trajectory as a 4 or 2 seamer.

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                      • jonpt
                        MVP
                        • Dec 2002
                        • 1289

                        #71
                        Re: MLB 2k7 Thoughts & Opinion on the Game

                        Originally posted by JT30
                        This is funny... What are you talking about? You have the option to look for a pitch in a zone, which is exactly what MLB hitters do. You also have the swing stick option which, with the step influence at 100, weighs timing very heavily... After all, batting is timing and looking in a zone.

                        I dont see just pressing a button here... where do you get pressing a button is 10 steps backward? Its a video game for christ sakes.
                        You took it out of context so I will explain. I said that I was hitting way too many homeruns in a post before. Tried many sliders turning power to 0...even used heel's sliders. Still was hitting homeruns. Like I said before Pujols was on pace to hit about 250 homeruns...not joking. I was on legend too. Then someone said they were tired of the complaning and to forget all of the features and press the a button to hit and nothing else. just look at what I replied to in the post before the one you replied to.
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                        • Sportsforever
                          NL MVP
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 20368

                          #72
                          Re: MLB 2k7 Thoughts & Opinion on the Game

                          Originally posted by JT30
                          A breaking pitch moves up? Not sure where you get that from... If you played college ball, and I did for 3 years... You would certainly know that a slider (breaking pitch) has very late movement and flys to the zone on the same trajectory as a 4 or 2 seamer.
                          By up I mean when a curveball comes out of a pitcher's hand, it initially moves "up" (for example, you will see the ball, sky, pitcher's hand) while a fastball/ changeup/slider all come right down out of the hand, if that makes sense.
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                          • JT30
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 2123

                            #73
                            Re: MLB 2k7 Thoughts & Opinion on the Game

                            Originally posted by Sportsforever
                            By up I mean when a curveball comes out of a pitcher's hand, it initially moves "up" (for example, you will see the ball, sky, pitcher's hand) while a fastball/ changeup/slider all come right down out of the hand, if that makes sense.
                            Oh I know what you mean there.. but I was thinking that people who wanted to be able to "read" pitches meant that they could immediately acknowledge it was a fastball, changeup, slider, splitter, etc...coming at them.. and that is just about next to impossible.

                            I do agree however that hitters are able to tell if a curve is coming at them.. other than that though, I think they are looking for a pitch in a zone and seeing and hitting at that point. I dont know how much of a difference it would make to someone hitting in a videogame if they saw the pitch starting up a little higher rather than on a lower trajectory, especially given all the various arm angles pitchers use nowadays... its just so hard.

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                            • JT30
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 2123

                              #74
                              Re: MLB 2k7 Thoughts & Opinion on the Game

                              Originally posted by jonpt
                              You took it out of context so I will explain. I said that I was hitting way too many homeruns in a post before. Tried many sliders turning power to 0...even used heel's sliders. Still was hitting homeruns. Like I said before Pujols was on pace to hit about 250 homeruns...not joking. I was on legend too. Then someone said they were tired of the complaning and to forget all of the features and press the a button to hit and nothing else. just look at what I replied to.

                              Alright this is what I recommend if you think hitting has become too easy and you are blasting them left and right.

                              1. Swing stick with step influence at 75-100
                              2. User contact at 10
                              3. User power at 0
                              4. Power influence using stick is set at 0 also
                              5. Pitch speed 80-85. If you go any higher, most pitches dont vary enough in perceived speed and thus easier to hit. This setting helps in portraying changes in pitch speed.
                              6. AI change speed should be set at 100. Seems like I am constantly off balance... which makes it more realistic.. Pitchers are constantly trying to keep hitters off balance while working the corners.
                              7. AI corner should be set around 65-70
                              8. Use invisible batter eye to look for a pitch in a certain zone.. I usually pick a zone and then concentrate on another area also. This helps quite a bit.


                              Hope this helps.

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                              • Mjphillips
                                MVP
                                • Feb 2005
                                • 1153

                                #75
                                Re: MLB 2k7 Thoughts & Opinion on the Game

                                Well i like to be able to guess a zone with the left stick like MVP. Where you if you felt the next pitch would be low and away you could sit on it. If it wasn't there I could just lay off the pitch until I got the pitch in the zone I was looking for. That is what I used to do when I played baseball. You look for a spot. I don't like to just hit the swing button no matter where it is and get a hit. I guess we just have to realize this is not MVP anymore. If you held up on MVP and the pitch was low and away, it was for sure either a strike or pop up. On MLB2K7 it is a homerun with the right timing. I don't want to play RBI baseball anymore ( although I loved that game).
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