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  • mrmonkeymark
    Banned
    • Jan 2005
    • 284

    #46
    Re: How about Updates from Ben Brinkman

    Originally posted by EsaQue
    I think part of it is that reviewers are being harder on games nowadays. There are a lot less 9.0 or 9.5 games for the 360 than there were for the xbox. Some of that is lower quality, some of it is harder grading.
    I think most of the reason is lower quality of games.... I haven't really played any great sports games on the 360. I don't know why this is, I think the exclusive licenses with EA and 2K are hurting the sports gaming industry for the fans.

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    • ehh
      Hall Of Fame
      • Mar 2003
      • 28962

      #47
      Re: How about Updates from Ben Brinkman

      Originally posted by EsaQue
      I think part of it is that reviewers are being harder on games nowadays.
      I think they're spot on, most games blow and are filled with glitches these days. I can't even play NCAA Football or Madden the games are so bad, I didn't play a season mode in 2K7, just playoff-mode because of franchise glitches. 2K's basketball games are pretty much the only good sports games left (I don't play hockey so I wouldn't know). The future is very bright for this series as well as 2K basketball because they're constantly improving, but EA and their football games are terrible and I don't seem them getting much better anytime soon.

      2K does have the graphics down, but I disagree with people who saying it needs the gameplay of MVP '05. The gameplay in MVP was fun as hell but very arcadey, IMO. There are certainly some aspects that need to be taken from it (more foul balls, throw meter in the field) but I hope they never adopt MVP's hitting or pitching system.
      Last edited by ehh; 10-26-2007, 10:23 AM.
      "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

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      • Cardot
        I'm not on InstantFace.
        • Feb 2003
        • 6164

        #48
        Re: How about Updates from Ben Brinkman

        Originally posted by mrmonkeymark
        I think most of the reason is lower quality of games.... I haven't really played any great sports games on the 360. I don't know why this is, I think the exclusive licenses with EA and 2K are hurting the sports gaming industry for the fans.
        The problem with sports games on the next gen is that they have just become too complicated. Football is a good example. Nowadays, the playbooks are huge, and beyond that you can motion players and call all sorts of hot routes & Audibles...basically creating millions of scenarios that you can't be fully tested. Beyond that, developers have tried to capture human emotions that you can't really quantify in an algorithm....things like Confidence, Chemistry, Motivation, Momentum, Clutch Factor etc.

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        • bsb13
          Banned
          • Mar 2005
          • 3439

          #49
          Re: How about Updates from Ben Brinkman

          Originally posted by ehh
          2K does have the graphics down, but I disagree with people who saying it needs the gameplay of MVP '05. The gameplay in MVP was fun as hell but very arcadey, IMO. There are certainly some aspects that need to be taken from it (more foul balls, throw meter in the field) but I hope they never adopt MVP's hitting or pitching system.
          I didnt really care for the hitting system in MVP myself, but I LOVE how the ball reacted of the bat in MVP. No other baseball games bat to ball physics are anywhere near as good as MVPs IMO. The main problem I had with MVP was that its hitting system forced you to always go the other way on outside pitches. 2k and The Show has much better pitching than MVP though.

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          • boomhauertjs
            All Star
            • Feb 2004
            • 5373

            #50
            Re: How about Updates from Ben Brinkman

            I hated the hitting in MVP 05. If you didn't have a perfect swing, you always hit weak grounders or soft line drives. From the little I played of the 2k7 demo, it seems like the hitting on there was better.

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            • bsb13
              Banned
              • Mar 2005
              • 3439

              #51
              Re: How about Updates from Ben Brinkman

              Originally posted by boomhauertjs
              I hated the hitting in MVP 05. If you didn't have a perfect swing, you always hit weak grounders or soft line drives. From the little I played of the 2k7 demo, it seems like the hitting on there was better.
              But thats the problem I have with most other baseball games, you can make bad swings and still hit rocket shots all over the place.

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              • ehh
                Hall Of Fame
                • Mar 2003
                • 28962

                #52
                Re: How about Updates from Ben Brinkman

                Originally posted by bsb13
                I didnt really care for the hitting system in MVP myself, but I LOVE how the ball reacted of the bat in MVP. No other baseball games bat to ball physics are anywhere near as good as MVPs IMO.
                The ball came off the bat well but I don't think there were nearly enough hard-hit line drives and bloop singles were non-existent. I also felt that too many balls hit squarely would hang up in the air way too long and OF's would get to a ton of 'em. The ball certainly reacted amazingly off the bat at times, but I think the hit variety in 2k4 was better.
                "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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                • Flaxseed Oil
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 1160

                  #53
                  Re: How about Updates from Ben Brinkman

                  MLB 07 the show really nailed hit variety. I hit little squibbers, sometimes i get broken bat doubles, sometimes my back-up infielder crushes one into the bleachers, its perfect. If only it had some graphics and a realistic franchise mode.

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                  • e0820
                    MVP
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 2070

                    #54
                    Re: How about Updates from Ben Brinkman

                    Originally posted by Flaxseed Oil
                    MLB 07 the show really nailed hit variety. I hit little squibbers, sometimes i get broken bat doubles, sometimes my back-up infielder crushes one into the bleachers, its perfect. If only it had some graphics and a realistic franchise mode.
                    Whats wrong with The Shows graphics? I think they are outstanding. Of course they went down a different path then MLB (MLB2k7 looking more realistic) Overall The Shows graphics/animations for onfield and off win (IMO) but MLB2k7 is done well too. (IM comparing PS3 versions only)

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                    • StriderNo9
                      Pro
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 673

                      #55
                      Re: How about Updates from Ben Brinkman

                      I'm just counting the years until 2K loses this contract and we get MVP back.

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