Bottom Line: Still too many HRs

[Sportsforever]

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I know that it's different for everyone, but right now I am seeing great variety in the CPU hits (I actually might even be seeing a few too many triples). In my last few games the CPU has averaged around 6-7 singles, 3-4 doubles, 1-2 triples, and 1-2 HR's. I've had games with no homers and games with 2-3 homers...the reason I say the triples may be high is that I haven't had a game without one in a while.

[arseniotall]

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I didnt see the HR problems til i started messing with the sliders, but when i went to default pro it just felt great. I think the game plays almost perfect on default pro, but the little things like too many strikes from the cpu makes it seem a little easy at times. When i started to mess with others sliders, it seemed like everything was a strikeout or homerun for the cpu.

[BigL]

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Thanks for reading my entire post and understanding it perfectly

Dont even mind him, pretty typical of this board. You post a complain and you get the "you suck" responses.

There is a HR issue in the game even with slider adjustments, I agree.

[CS10029]

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I've had a little difficulty with this problem. I rolled my eyes when I hit 5 HR's with Mags in three games.

[HealyMonster]

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if they re did the hitting code there shouldnt be a HR issue, i have played all exebition games and am still learning hitting pitching so i have really had a HR issue but at the same time it appears there is a problem. i just dont get how after all this "work" they did to fix the problem its still there. basically they sacrificed graphics and framrate to ensure there isnt a HR issue and better gameplay yet there is still an issue. what gives?

[Village Idiot]

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Only indirectly on-topic, but I was just messing around, decided to play a game on default Legend. The White Sox hit 13 homers off me, and it was only the 7th when I gave up.

Just throwin' that out there.

[CMH]

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if they re did the hitting code there shouldnt be a HR issue, i have played all exebition games and am still learning hitting pitching so i have really had a HR issue but at the same time it appears there is a problem. i just dont get how after all this "work" they did to fix the problem its still there. basically they sacrificed graphics and framrate to ensure there isnt a HR issue and better gameplay yet there is still an issue. what gives?

How can you say this while people are also stating that they don't have this issue?

It seems to me more about playing style and what people are doing on the mound or with sliders than with the actual game.

The CPU hits homeruns off me but I'm not seeing a homerun problem. And the CPU also finds ways to score against me without hitting extra base hits all the time.

[therizing02]

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I'll be the first to admit that it has a lot to do with playing style. Like I said in the original post, I've tried many different slider settings to try to get this game to play right for me.

The definition of right for me includes player performing similar to how they perform in real life. It also includes realistic pitch counts. Players taking the extra base, realistic amounts or errors and injuries. You get the idea. I want a SIM.

I've been able to get this game to do all of the above except for the HR's (and SB's obviously). I posted to try to get some ideas on a remedy and to see if others were experiencing the same thing. Not to get the obligatory "you suck" response from some tool. Some are having an issue, some are not. I think the issue can be fixed and this can be one of the best baseball I've played.

From day 1 the only thing that I've done the same as far as settings for every game is use the catcher suggestions. I used to pitch straight to the glove, now, I throw the pitch that he calls for but, only to the area where the glove is. I have the TCP meter at a setting where I'm throwing a strike about 65% of the time. I have no problems with meatball pitches either because the meatballs don't always go to the middle of the plate and the CPU doesn't hit every one out. I'm also throwing on the average about 115 pitches per game. IDK, maybe the game is scaled for a number HRs based on a lower number of pitches.

[LP]

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So are you having problems with the CPU hitting too many HRs, or are you hitting too many?

[CMH]

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I'll be the first to admit that it has a lot to do with playing style. Like I said in the original post, I've tried many different slider settings to try to get this game to play right for me.

The definition of right for me includes player performing similar to how they perform in real life. It also includes realistic pitch counts. Players taking the extra base, realistic amounts or errors and injuries. You get the idea. I want a SIM.

I've been able to get this game to do all of the above except for the HR's (and SB's obviously). I posted to try to get some ideas on a remedy and to see if others were experiencing the same thing. Not to get the obligatory "you suck" response from some tool. Some are having an issue, some are not. I think the issue can be fixed and this can be one of the best baseball I've played.

From day 1 the only thing that I've done the same as far as settings for every game is use the catcher suggestions. I used to pitch straight to the glove, now, I throw the pitch that he calls for but, only to the area where the glove is. I have the TCP meter at a setting where I'm throwing a strike about 65% of the time. I have no problems with meatball pitches either because the meatballs don't always go to the middle of the plate and the CPU doesn't hit every one out. I'm also throwing on the average about 115 pitches per game. IDK, maybe the game is scaled for a number HRs based on a lower number of pitches.

You're idea of a sim is my idea and I've been doing the same as you in terms of pitch counts and strike:ball ratio, etc.

Perhaps I'm just not bothered by the homeruns yet.

[HealyMonster]

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How can you say this while people are also stating that they don't have this issue?

It seems to me more about playing style and what people are doing on the mound or with sliders than with the actual game.

The CPU hits homeruns off me but I'm not seeing a homerun problem. And the CPU also finds ways to score against me without hitting extra base hits all the time.

how can i say what? all i said was people are having a HR issue and 2k re did the code what gives? i should have said havent instead of i really have, im learning new controls so i havent had a problem but consensus is that alot of people are. if there is a homerun problem then 2k has a serious issue cause they toned down alot of stuff for pretty much no reason if the homerun issue is still there.

[CMH]

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how can i say what? all i said was people are having a HR issue and 2k re did the code what gives? i should have said havent instead of i really have, im learning new controls so i havent had a problem but consensus is that alot of people are. if there is a homerun problem then 2k has a serious issue cause they toned down alot of stuff for pretty much no reason if the homerun issue is still there.

You based your statement on what half of the people are saying and ignored the other 50%.

That's what I meant.

[JBH3]

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how can i say what? all i said was people are having a HR issue and 2k re did the code what gives? i should have said havent instead of i really have, im learning new controls so i havent had a problem but consensus is that alot of people are. if there is a homerun problem then 2k has a serious issue cause they toned down alot of stuff for pretty much no reason if the homerun issue is still there.

My last game was Phillies (me) vs Cincy. Brett Myers vs. Aaron Harang. At one point I was winning 4-3. All four of my runs were off Homers (all but 1 solo). All three of cincy's were solo homers. They then hit two more off me, and I hit another one. So the score was 5-5 all 10 runs coming from the longball. In fact I was having a harder time hitting a single or double than I was hitting a HR since only one of my 5 hits was a single w/ my pitcher. These are on All-Star custom slider w/ contact and power below default, and the CPU "able to hit good pitchers slider" jacked way up. This game went into the 11th inning where cincy beat me off a game winning double w/ Griffey on 2nd. I could hit 4 homers, but couldn't hit anything else to manufacture runs in.

YES HOMERS ARE AN ISSUE IN THIS GAME!

[LP]

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My last game was Phillies (me) vs Cincy. Brett Myers vs. Aaron Harang. At one point I was winning 4-3. All four of my runs were off Homers (all but 1 solo). All three of cincy's were solo homers. They then hit two more off me, and I hit another one. So the score was 5-5 all 10 runs coming from the longball. In fact I was having a harder time hitting a single or double than I was hitting a HR since only one of my 5 hits was a single w/ my pitcher. These are on All-Star custom slider w/ contact and power below default, and the CPU "able to hit good pitchers slider" jacked way up. This game went into the 11th inning where cincy beat me off a game winning double w/ Griffey on 2nd. I could hit 4 homers, but couldn't hit anything else to manufacture runs in.

YES HOMERS ARE AN ISSUE IN THIS GAME!

What is your step influence slider at?

[catcatch22]

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My last game was Phillies (me) vs Cincy. Brett Myers vs. Aaron Harang. At one point I was winning 4-3. All four of my runs were off Homers (all but 1 solo). All three of cincy's were solo homers. They then hit two more off me, and I hit another one. So the score was 5-5 all 10 runs coming from the longball. In fact I was having a harder time hitting a single or double than I was hitting a HR since only one of my 5 hits was a single w/ my pitcher. These are on All-Star custom slider w/ contact and power below default, and the CPU "able to hit good pitchers slider" jacked way up. This game went into the 11th inning where cincy beat me off a game winning double w/ Griffey on 2nd. I could hit 4 homers, but couldn't hit anything else to manufacture runs in.

YES HOMERS ARE AN ISSUE IN THIS GAME!

Once I fixed my sliders properly instead of the ones posted (not that the ones posted aren't good, but I always rather do it myself then trust others), I have not had this issue.

The problem is the default settings are bogus. Every game I have played by 2k and EA seem geared to the "BIG" play and not the sim way. Once you edit it properly and not just blindly change the sliders you can get real good results. I even got the AI to steal on my FINALLY!! It took me awhile to figure it out but once I got them right they way I wanted them too, I haven't seen the homerun problem again.

I'll post them, once I figure out exactly which adjustment actually got get them to steal. I made some wierd changes and it seems to have worked but I made alot of them in hopes of fixing the running game. The homerun problem was the easiest to fix. The real problem is the stealing problem and I think I found a way around that.