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  • aenggeorge
    Rookie
    • Nov 2004
    • 248

    #196
    Re: Patrick Williams: Can I Have My Money Back?

    i lvoe ths game to but hey maybe next year instead of the mogul enjine lets geet the ootp engine!
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    • StLfan72
      Rookie
      • Mar 2006
      • 132

      #197
      Re: Patrick Williams: Can I Have My Money Back?

      Originally posted by Ckhoss29
      I think this game is finally a step in the right direction with hitting and pitching as well as fielding. I love it, I think the hitting with the swing stick is really a great simulation of hitting, much more than moving a cursor and hitting a button.
      I find flaws in this game with some freezing and stuttering as well as the presentation being boring, but I find this game is much more a simulation of baseball than what has been offered in the past with the push button controls.
      Absolutely agree--Of course this game isn't perfect, I've yet to come across one that is perfect; but the bottom line to ME, personally, is...is this game fun to play and are the flaws able to be overlooked for the most part? Yes. The freezing every now and then gets to me a little, but I find myself saving more and more to prevent a total loss of stats...You just have to find ways to adapt to the flaws rather than letting it consume you.

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      • DMB82
        Pro
        • May 2005
        • 624

        #198
        Re: Patrick Williams: Can I Have My Money Back?

        Originally posted by CowherPower
        Nintendo,as well as Microsoft can make an MLB game if they so desire. This is so far from a "monopoly",it's not even funny.
        2k's deal only locks out 3rd party,but 1st party is still able to make an MLB game.
        Do you know how much it would cost in time and resources for Microsoft to start a baseball game from scratch and have it be a quality game? It's just not feasable, so in reality 2K does have a monopoly on the 360. EA had a great baseball franchise that was just getting ready to peak before this horribly anti-consumer practice by 2K and the MLB.

        My point was since 2K was unable to compete with the MVP Baseball series, they went and bought off the MLB to kill their competition. Little did they know at the time what a powerhouse Sony's MLB game would become by now. I love the fact that 2K is losing $ on this deal.

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        • DMB82
          Pro
          • May 2005
          • 624

          #199
          Re: Patrick Williams: Can I Have My Money Back?

          Originally posted by roadman
          In all fairness, I'd say EA football is much closer to a monopoly vs 2k baseball .
          The difference is that the NFL wanted the monopoly on their game and approached EA. 2K went and threw money at the MLB because their inferior product couldn't compete. Big difference and something 2K fans never want to remember when they bring up the Madden situation.

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          • muggins
            It is now the SW Era
            • May 2003
            • 5379

            #200
            Re: Patrick Williams: Can I Have My Money Back?

            Originally posted by DMB82
            The difference is that the NFL wanted the monopoly on their game and approached EA. 2K went and threw money at the MLB because their inferior product couldn't compete. Big difference and something 2K fans never want to remember when they bring up the Madden situation.
            Which one happened first? Do you think there could be some causality here? Magic 8-ball says LIKELY SO.
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            • baa7
              Banned
              • Jul 2004
              • 11691

              #201
              Re: Patrick Williams: Can I Have My Money Back?

              Originally posted by DMB82
              The difference is that the NFL wanted the monopoly on their game and approached EA.
              LOL. Not even close to what happened. We know it, and you do as well

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              • spankdatazz22
                All Star
                • May 2003
                • 6219

                #202
                Re: Patrick Williams: Can I Have My Money Back?

                Originally posted by DMB82
                2K went and threw money at the MLB because their inferior product couldn't compete. Big difference and something 2K fans never want to remember when they bring up the Madden situation.
                Because it's just as easy to bring up NASCAR, FIFA, the NCAA, and the Arena League
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                • Kramer5150
                  Medicore Mike
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 7384

                  #203
                  Re: Patrick Williams: Can I Have My Money Back?

                  Originally posted by DMB82
                  Do you know how much it would cost in time and resources for Microsoft to start a baseball game from scratch and have it be a quality game? It's just not feasable, so in reality 2K does have a monopoly on the 360. EA had a great baseball franchise that was just getting ready to peak before this horribly anti-consumer practice by 2K and the MLB.

                  My point was since 2K was unable to compete with the MVP Baseball series, they went and bought off the MLB to kill their competition. Little did they know at the time what a powerhouse Sony's MLB game would become by now. I love the fact that 2K is losing $ on this deal.
                  It's actually quite feasible. Microsoft at any point could decide to drop an MLB game if they so desired.
                  The point is....you are claiming what 2k did should be considered a monopoly,which is not true.
                  People are for reviews if it backs their argument, and against them when they don't.
                  “I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest – If you can’t take it, you shouldn’t play!” Jack Lambert
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                  • baa7
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 11691

                    #204
                    Re: Patrick Williams: Can I Have My Money Back?

                    Originally posted by CowherPower
                    The point is....you are claiming what 2k did should be considered a monopoly,which is not true.
                    Umm, he's not claiming anything. He's just trying to stir the pot with his FOX News version of EA's role in snagging the NFL license... "What, Mr. Commissioner? You want little old US to make an exclusive NFL game for you? Why, we'd be HONORED!"

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                    • Kramer5150
                      Medicore Mike
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 7384

                      #205
                      Re: Patrick Williams: Can I Have My Money Back?

                      Originally posted by DMB82
                      The difference is that the NFL wanted the monopoly on their game and approached EA.
                      Nope....not even close

                      Originally posted by DMB82
                      2K went and threw money at the MLB because their inferior product couldn't compete. Big difference and something 2K fans never want to remember when they bring up the Madden situation.
                      Sounds eerily familiar to what that "other" company did.....doesn't it.
                      People are for reviews if it backs their argument, and against them when they don't.
                      “I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest – If you can’t take it, you shouldn’t play!” Jack Lambert
                      “Quarterbacks should wear dresses.” Jack Lambert

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                      • baa7
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 11691

                        #206
                        Re: Patrick Williams: Can I Have My Money Back?

                        Originally posted by CowherPower
                        Sounds eerily familiar to what that "other" company did.....doesn't it.
                        I honestly wanted to spare the poor fellow by not pointing out the irony.

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                        • Kramer5150
                          Medicore Mike
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 7384

                          #207
                          Re: Patrick Williams: Can I Have My Money Back?

                          Originally posted by baa7
                          Umm, he's not claiming anything. He's just trying to stir the pot with his FOX News version of EA's role in snagging the NFL license... "What, Mr. Commissioner? You want little old US to make an exclusive NFL game for you? Why, we'd be HONORED!"
                          Gotcha
                          People are for reviews if it backs their argument, and against them when they don't.
                          “I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest – If you can’t take it, you shouldn’t play!” Jack Lambert
                          “Quarterbacks should wear dresses.” Jack Lambert

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                          • Kramer5150
                            Medicore Mike
                            • Dec 2002
                            • 7384

                            #208
                            Re: Patrick Williams: Can I Have My Money Back?

                            Originally posted by baa7
                            I honestly wanted to spare the poor fellow by not pointing out the irony.
                            oops....my bad...lol.
                            People are for reviews if it backs their argument, and against them when they don't.
                            “I believe the game is designed to reward the ones who hit the hardest – If you can’t take it, you shouldn’t play!” Jack Lambert
                            “Quarterbacks should wear dresses.” Jack Lambert

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                            • roadman
                              *ll St*r
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 26339

                              #209
                              Re: Patrick Williams: Can I Have My Money Back?

                              Originally posted by DMB82
                              The difference is that the NFL wanted the monopoly on their game and approached EA. 2K went and threw money at the MLB because their inferior product couldn't compete. Big difference and something 2K fans never want to remember when they bring up the Madden situation.
                              Interesting version, but unfortunately, not a fact as others have pointed out.

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                              • DMB82
                                Pro
                                • May 2005
                                • 624

                                #210
                                Re: Patrick Williams: Can I Have My Money Back?

                                Originally posted by roadman
                                Interesting version, but unfortunately, not a fact as others have pointed out.
                                Go back and read the press releases from when both deals were made. NFL shopped around an exclusive contract, EA was chosen. In return, 2K's feelings were hurt and threw more $ than they could afford at the MLB to get a 3rd party exclusive. Now they are hemmoraging cash and hopefully will cease as a company very soon.

                                This is fact and I challenge any of you to provide evidence this was not what actually happened. I remember the details behind these deals quite clearly.

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