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  • CMH
    Making you famous
    • Oct 2002
    • 26203

    #106
    Re: Patrick Williams: Can I Have My Money Back?

    It's more choppy than 2k7. I'm not saying the game is smooth on the field. 30 fps might be wrong, I give you that.

    But it's just not choppy enough to really bother me. I still understand why it would bother people.

    I would never argue with anyone that says they can't play the game because of the frame rate. It's understanding if it's irritating.
    "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

    "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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    • Rainey
      MVP
      • Jul 2002
      • 4507

      #107
      Re: Patrick Williams: Can I Have My Money Back?

      If a patch fix's the choppiness let me know... and I'm coming back. That card feature seemed really interesting.
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      • CS10029
        Th* *p*r*t**n *f Sp*rts
        • Feb 2004
        • 4616

        #108
        Re: Patrick Williams: Can I Have My Money Back?

        I log out of my profile so I don't know about the frame rate issues. Hahaha.
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        • miamimarlins1
          Banned
          • May 2007
          • 490

          #109
          Re: Patrick Williams: Can I Have My Money Back?

          I can't understand how people defend 2k sports as if they were shareholders. Let's be honest I think everyone on OS boards wants more than anything great sports games. I find it impossible to list 2k8 as such. I'm not flaming on the game or trying to start a war. I want a great game and 2k has burned us every year since 2k6. If people were truly honest and spoke with their dollars and didn't buy 2k unless they fixed it, we would all be better off. ALL I WANT IS A FUN BASEBALL GAME. It's like people try so hard to like this game and discount anyone that speaks the truth. I really thought 2k7 was a step in the right direction and for them to release this disaster is horrible

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          • bkrich83
            Has Been
            • Jul 2002
            • 71574

            #110
            Re: Patrick Williams: Can I Have My Money Back?

            Originally posted by CS10029
            I log out of my profile so I don't know about the frame rate issues. Hahaha.
            Shouldn't have to do that. Not to mention that defeats the ability to use the highly touted card collecting feature which I do enjoy. Even then, framerate hits are noticeable.
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            • roadman
              *ll St*r
              • Aug 2003
              • 26339

              #111
              Re: Patrick Williams: Can I Have My Money Back?

              I can only compare 2k8 with 2k7 and it's not even close. Gameplay wise, 2k8 blows 2k7 out of the water.

              I'm still playing on SDTV, so, I don't have any stuttering, choppiness, what others are experiencing.

              I knew about the commentary before I purchased the game.

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              • CMH
                Making you famous
                • Oct 2002
                • 26203

                #112
                Re: Patrick Williams: Can I Have My Money Back?

                Originally posted by miamimarlins1
                It's like people try so hard to like this game and discount anyone that speaks the truth.
                You seem to be the one trying harder to get people that like the game to not like it.
                "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                • BSanders
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 1100

                  #113
                  Re: Patrick Williams: Can I Have My Money Back?

                  It's all a personal opinion... I myself didn't enjoy this years version of 2k baseball but does it make it bad for all, nope.

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                  • bowlerguy92
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 1034

                    #114
                    Re: Patrick Williams: Can I Have My Money Back?

                    Pretty sure Patrick shouldn't be working at OS.........

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                    • bkrich83
                      Has Been
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 71574

                      #115
                      Re: Patrick Williams: Can I Have My Money Back?

                      Originally posted by bowlerguy92
                      Pretty sure Patrick shouldn't be working at OS.........
                      Because his opinion differs from yours?
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                      • Artman22
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 4982

                        #116
                        Re: Patrick Williams: Can I Have My Money Back?

                        Originally posted by YankeePride
                        Haha, so it's wrong for someone to defend the game when they like it but when you or others say the game is terrible we're supposed to sit back and just nod in agreement?

                        Laughable.

                        The double standard here is hilarious.

                        Defend the game and you're a fanboy that doesn't know anything about baseball. But if you say you don't like the game then you're a genius? And when those that like the game call people on that then you guys turn it back on us.

                        Wow, OS. Wow.
                        dogs do you own a a big portion of take two shares? I mean every negative comment seems to hit a nerve. I liked 2k7 alot but I'm a realist. This game was a step backwards. I'm not the only one who feels this way obviously
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                        • HealyMonster
                          Titans Era has begun.
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 5992

                          #117
                          Originally posted by roadman
                          I can only compare 2k8 with 2k7 and it's not even close. Gameplay wise, 2k8 blows 2k7 out of the water.

                          I'm still playing on SDTV, so, I don't have any stuttering, choppiness, what others are experiencing.

                          I knew about the commentary before I purchased the game.
                          see, this is my point. my gripes are directed exactly at comments like this. we are not talking about a new game. this is the 3rd edition of this game. the 3rd freaking edition meaning 3 years of development were made prior to the release of this game. uniforms are wrong, stadiums are wrong/out dated, there is a framerate issue. there are roster bugs, online is broke pretty much in every aspect. regardless if the gme is "fun", has new pitching controls or "plays a better game than 2k7" it is an outright disaster when you look at the big picture. this game screams lack of leadership and artistic direction. the new pitching system is great. its fun and adds to realism. i enjoy it. bu when you take a step back and say man I have given these guys 180 dollars by buying 2k6,7, and 8. what do we have fr 180 dollars and 3 years? signature styles, new pitching mechanic, decent gameplay, and trading cards.

                          people say "i dont care" about the framerate. they say "i dont care about the bad commentary" " i could care less if the uniforms are acurrate or if the stadiums are up to date" WAKE THE HECK UP! they released a game where the announcers say completely opposite of whats going on in the game at times. they took the graphics down a notch and got framerate issues. how is that even possible when there werent framerate issues with better graphics?

                          It is cool if you just want a game that plays a good game of baseball. 2k8 is a game that plays a good game of baseball.

                          just becaue you go to the diner and get a hamburger patty with no bun, no ketchup, just a plain hambuger patty, and enjoy it, and its exactly what you wanted. you paid the price of a full double bacon cheeseburger but you dont care, it tastes just right and you love it. now if the diner claims to have the best double bacon cheeseburger in town or just simply lists double bacon cheeseburger on the menu, when someone else goes and orders one they are going to be like wtf? where is the bun? where is the cheese? wtf is this. your going to be sitting there like wtf, your hungry, eat it . you wont be hungry after you eat it. its a burger so what if it doesnt have ketchup. and that person is going to think you are ridiculous and no matter what you think, that person will be right because regardless if the patty will satisfy their hunger or not its not what they ordered nor is it what the menu said it was.

                          seriously, i have nothing against 2k or people who "defend" it but come on guys at least be real with yourself. take a deep breath, look at the big picture. regardless of who hates it or loves it, when we are all real, we agree this isnt a "good game" or a "complete game". this is a sad last attempt to make money by a company that is about to go under.

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                          • Kodii Rockets
                            I smell sulfur...
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 2670

                            #118
                            Re: Patrick Williams: Can I Have My Money Back?

                            I still don't really have a problem with this game
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                            • arseniotall
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2002
                              • 903

                              #119
                              Re: Patrick Williams: Can I Have My Money Back?

                              i love this ****ing game

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                              • roadman
                                *ll St*r
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 26339

                                #120
                                Re: Patrick Williams: Can I Have My Money Back?

                                Originally posted by Renegade44
                                see, this is my point. my gripes are directed exactly at comments like this. we are not talking about a new game. this is the 3rd edition of this game. the 3rd freaking edition meaning 3 years of development were made prior to the release of this game. uniforms are wrong, stadiums are wrong/out dated, there is a framerate issue. there are roster bugs, online is broke pretty much in every aspect. regardless if the gme is "fun", has new pitching controls or "plays a better game than 2k7" it is an outright disaster when you look at the big picture. this game screams lack of leadership and artistic direction. the new pitching system is great. its fun and adds to realism. i enjoy it. bu when you take a step back and say man I have given these guys 180 dollars by buying 2k6,7, and 8. what do we have fr 180 dollars and 3 years? signature styles, new pitching mechanic, decent gameplay, and trading cards.

                                people say "i dont care" about the framerate. they say "i dont care about the bad commentary" " i could care less if the uniforms are acurrate or if the stadiums are up to date" WAKE THE HECK UP! they released a game where the announcers say completely opposite of whats going on in the game at times. they took the graphics down a notch and got framerate issues. how is that even possible when there werent framerate issues with better graphics?

                                It is cool if you just want a game that plays a good game of baseball. 2k8 is a game that plays a good game of baseball.

                                just becaue you go to the diner and get a hamburger patty with no bun, no ketchup, just a plain hambuger patty, and enjoy it, and its exactly what you wanted. you paid the price of a full double bacon cheeseburger but you dont care, it tastes just right and you love it. now if the diner claims to have the best double bacon cheeseburger in town or just simply lists double bacon cheeseburger on the menu, when someone else goes and orders one they are going to be like wtf? where is the bun? where is the cheese? wtf is this. your going to be sitting there like wtf, your hungry, eat it . you wont be hungry after you eat it. its a burger so what if it doesnt have ketchup. and that person is going to think you are ridiculous and no matter what you think, that person will be right because regardless if the patty will satisfy their hunger or not its not what they ordered nor is it what the menu said it was.

                                seriously, i have nothing against 2k or people who "defend" it but come on guys at least be real with yourself. take a deep breath, look at the big picture. regardless of who hates it or loves it, when we are all real, we agree this isnt a "good game" or a "complete game". this is a sad last attempt to make money by a company that is about to go under.
                                I'll try to repeat myself, I guess.

                                I never played 2k6 before at all. So, to me, my opinion, 2k8 gameplay is much better than 2k7's. The pitching mechanic isn't the only new mechanic, either. The batting system is brand new and so is the throwing mechanism.

                                I equate it to loving HH baseball. I played that one on the PC. Even on the PC, there were bugs, graphics that were wretched, but between the chalk lines, played a great game of baseball.

                                If the commentating and presentation are updated next year (as have been said by 2K), that's icing on the cake for me.

                                Again, I'm fortunate I'm in the minority where I don't have the framerate issues and I certainly can understand folks being upset having the framerate issue.


                                Different strokes for different folks.

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