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  • CMH
    Making you famous
    • Oct 2002
    • 26203

    #181
    Re: MLB 2K13 Announced with Cover Athlete David Price, Arrives March 5th

    Originally posted by tonadom
    Then you have absolutely no right to mention it. You are clearly biased and don't have an open mind. One could even question your love of the sport just because of not trying every MLB option available. Not even trying it at a kiosk ? Why ?
    And to challenge his opinion with comments like "That is not true. It isn't up for debate either" isn't biased?

    Drop it. Both of you. This is going no where and it's very clear, VERY CLEAR that there is an agenda on both ends and not just from you two. Quit it. Everyone.
    "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

    "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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    • mcarr74
      Rookie
      • May 2008
      • 65

      #182
      Re: MLB 2K13 Announced with Cover Athlete David Price, Arrives March 5th

      Mkharsh i totally agree with you this is the funnest game to play and i dont care what other people say and bash it i love it and will continue to love it with guys like you and Bretzky updating it.

      cmon March 5th

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      • Mt Oread
        Banned
        • Nov 2012
        • 287

        #183
        Re: MLB 2K13 Announced with Cover Athlete David Price, Arrives March 5th

        Originally posted by Blzer
        If I recall, don't you have to pull back/double-tap the swing button to check it? I don't believe it was pressure-sensitive. If it was, I don't recall it being that useful in the 2K11 and 2K12 demos.

        I own 2K10, and the only way you can check swing is by intentionally doing so before you swing... and even then that's still a "maybe".
        I have no idea if you can check swing by using the buttons, as no game ever made that a useful feature.

        But if you use the stick to swing, it's as simple as pulling back when you change your mind. It's intuitive, and over time easy to pull off. I estimate that I pull off a successful check swing 6-10 times a game. Maybe more.

        The one thing I do miss is getting as many check swings that result in soft grounders or virtual bunts. 2K9 seemed to have that mix better.

        The broken check swing in 2K11 really killed me. I was disgusted by getting a strike for every check swing that I just went to button hitting so I wasn't tempted. But it worked great in 2K12.

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        • tvman
          MVP
          • Nov 2010
          • 1392

          #184
          Re: MLB 2K13 Announced with Cover Athlete David Price, Arrives March 5th

          Originally posted by Blzer
          If I recall, don't you have to pull back/double-tap the swing button to check it? I don't believe it was pressure-sensitive. If it was, I don't recall it being that useful in the 2K11 and 2K12 demos.

          I own 2K10, and the only way you can check swing is by intentionally doing so before you swing... and even then that's still a "maybe".
          Check swinging with a button works but not to where it's usable, at least not for me. It's the one thing or should I say one of the things i'm hoping they can correct in 13 but not holding my breath.

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          • tvman
            MVP
            • Nov 2010
            • 1392

            #185
            Re: MLB 2K13 Announced with Cover Athlete David Price, Arrives March 5th

            Originally posted by Mt Oread
            I have no idea if you can check swing by using the buttons, as no game ever made that a useful feature.

            But if you use the stick to swing, it's as simple as pulling back when you change your mind. It's intuitive, and over time easy to pull off. I estimate that I pull off a successful check swing 6-10 times a game. Maybe more.

            The one thing I do miss is getting as many check swings that result in soft grounders or virtual bunts. 2K9 seemed to have that mix better.

            The broken check swing in 2K11 really killed me. I was disgusted by getting a strike for every check swing that I just went to button hitting so I wasn't tempted. But it worked great in 2K12.
            I need to try the stick, it's just that i'm old old school and prefer button swinging.

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            • Mt Oread
              Banned
              • Nov 2012
              • 287

              #186
              Re: MLB 2K13 Announced with Cover Athlete David Price, Arrives March 5th

              Originally posted by tvman
              I need to try the stick, it's just that i'm old old school and prefer button swinging.
              Once you get a feel for the stick ,you won't want to go back. The trick is in coming up with a decent approach to the power/contact swing conundrum.

              I pretty much just use the power swing on hitter's counts, and with power hitters with two outs, less than 2 strikes and no one in scoring position. It represents when my hitter feels the most comfortable. Otherwise I just use the normal swing.

              When you use the button, the game decides on power/contact for you. It even will use the defensive swing, which I never use, in the right circumstances. So I don't think you are missing out too much using the buttons in regards to that approach. I never use the defensive swing when using the stick, because it is not intuitive.

              The best part about choosing when to use each swing is that it really drives you to take pitches in order to get those 2-0 and 3-1 counts where you can really drive the ball. I'm not saying you can't do the same using the classic hitting, but the reward for doing so feels more tangible.

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              • Blzer
                Resident film pundit
                • Mar 2004
                • 42509

                #187
                Re: MLB 2K13 Announced with Cover Athlete David Price, Arrives March 5th

                Originally posted by Mt Oread
                Once you get a feel for the stick ,you won't want to go back. The trick is in coming up with a decent approach to the power/contact swing conundrum.
                And this is the one reason I don't want to use it.

                In ESPN MLB 2K5, I adjusted sliders so that I could always use the power swing, and it worked well. In this game, it's not exactly the same. Power swing is more like "home run swing" here, with more fly balls and what not.

                I miss ESPN Major League Baseball.
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                • Mt Oread
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 287

                  #188
                  Re: MLB 2K13 Announced with Cover Athlete David Price, Arrives March 5th

                  Originally posted by Blzer
                  And this is the one reason I don't want to use it.

                  In ESPN MLB 2K5, I adjusted sliders so that I could always use the power swing, and it worked well. In this game, it's not exactly the same. Power swing is more like "home run swing" here, with more fly balls and what not.

                  I miss ESPN Major League Baseball.
                  It would be nice if the devs would clear up exactly what power swing does, but I don't think you are correct about the flyballs. I think it just produces more power to whatever hit. You can use the LS to push up to hit more fly balls.

                  I hit home runs with both power and contact swings. I hit blazing ground balls and line drives with power swings. Those ground balls can result in singles through the infield are easy peasy DP's.

                  But really, the devs have never explained how they intend it to be used, so it is just guys on the internet conjecturing. Some use power swings with power hitters and contact swings with everyone else. Some use power swing with everyone, all of the time, but use contact with two strikes.

                  Depending on what you do, it will affect how you want to set-up your sliders. All I can say is that my approach has resulted in realistic at-bats and statistics.

                  But when you have so many people using so many different strategies, it makes it really hard to get a feel for why different people get different results with different sliders.

                  2K could just explain in detail, at the very least, how they program the AI to decide. Because in the time I used classic hitting, I thought the results were really good and realistic. But the check swing is a game changer. It really does add to the drama of an at-bat when it can be used intuitively. Because you are right, choosing to check swing before a pitch is pointless.

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                  • Blzer
                    Resident film pundit
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 42509

                    #189
                    Re: MLB 2K13 Announced with Cover Athlete David Price, Arrives March 5th

                    Originally posted by Mt Oread
                    But really, the devs have never explained how they intend it to be used, so it is just guys on the internet conjecturing. Some use power swings with power hitters and contact swings with everyone else. Some use power swing with everyone, all of the time, but use contact with two strikes.
                    You're right, I think this is what I meant to say.

                    They once said that it would be a disservice to hit power with contact hitters, and contact with power hitters. That leaves me saying "What the hell, man?" That's going to give power hitters more home runs than they should, and contact hitters less. It would be more appropriate to just have a "one button swing," which is why I like to use classic swinging (the X button).

                    The problem is that I think that option chooses what kind of swing for you, but oh well...
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                    • pistolpete
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 1816

                      #190
                      Re: MLB 2K13 Announced with Cover Athlete David Price, Arrives March 5th

                      Originally posted by Blzer
                      They once said that it would be a disservice to hit power with contact hitters
                      I recall on 2k11 before the patch when every hit was a weak liner contact hitters literally couldn't hit the ball out of the infield.

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                      • Bluejaysfan65
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 4784

                        #191
                        Re: MLB 2K13 Announced with Cover Athlete David Price, Arrives March 5th

                        I hope the graphics and player faces look better that in last year's game. Last year's game just looked visually horrible.
                        A New Era | Toronto Blue Jays (MLB The Show)
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                        • horrormaster
                          Rookie
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 216

                          #192
                          Re: MLB 2K13 Announced with Cover Athlete David Price, Arrives March 5th

                          Originally posted by tvman
                          With #2 I think your referring to the show cause I don't find any games predetermined in 2k.
                          I played something like 90 season games + another 50 MyPlayer games and after awhile it just felt like no matter how well or poor you play, the game has already decided the outcome. You could make all the right pitches, plays, and at bats, but the game will cause them to hit or pitch just good enough to win. Always happened after the 5th inning too. Just like in Madden how you could dominate for 3 quarters and then the AI would dominate for an entire quarter to try and keep the game close and competitive.

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                          • Mt Oread
                            Banned
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 287

                            #193
                            Re: MLB 2K13 Announced with Cover Athlete David Price, Arrives March 5th

                            I love how people demanded games react to how you play, but when they do, they complain about "comeback code." Notice, this guy only sees a problem after the 5th inning in games he loses.

                            The notion that this game, or any other, really, are predetermined is more evidence of how susceptible many sports fans are to letting perception cloud reality.

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                            • pistolpete
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 1816

                              #194
                              Re: MLB 2K13 Announced with Cover Athlete David Price, Arrives March 5th

                              You know what happens on 2k12 (it happened on the Show and in real life too) is that in the 6th inning hitters are on to you. I don't know how many games I've played between 2k11 and 2k12 but I know when I start that inning I better have someone on the pen in case of trouble. If I get through that inning though I know I've got a good chance at a win bc in the 7th you can use situational pitchers and then in the 8th and 9th you can go set up and closer.

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                              • bxphenom7
                                Pro
                                • Feb 2012
                                • 593

                                #195
                                I expect nothing from MLB 2k, just not as good as NBA 2k. I'll stick with MLB The Show as usual, but some good competition would be a welcomed surprise.

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