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  • jr86
    MVP
    • Jan 2009
    • 1728

    #16
    Re: Anticipation Attribute

    Alluding to what MK wrote in regards to IF/OF speed.

    I think IF speed is probably ok from what i have seen, guys who are decent fielders make the stops and less agile ones don't.

    However i am seeing what appears to be a bit of a problem with the OF's.

    I seem to be hitting far too many doubles because the OF's are too slow to react to them and either take a bad angle and have to chase it down to the wall or just don't react fast enough when the ball comes off the bat.

    Tried raising OF to 15...unsure if this has helped though as i hit another 3 in addition to the 3 i had hit previously.

    Small sample size of 3 games but i have hit 6,4 and 6 doubles in those games....

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    • shogunofharlem3
      MVP
      • Dec 2007
      • 1799

      #17
      Re: Anticipation Attribute

      I just played another game. Ended up winning 3-2.

      Red Sox 3 12 1
      Yankees 2 11 0

      2 doubles, 1 triple to the gap, was a bomb on a 3-1 pitch. Had no other issues with extra bases.

      VIdeos coming in 30 seconds...

      Smooth Transition from Outfielder / Then notice shortstop doesn't crazily attack this ball
      <iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/bEK2v_ZHJoI" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="420"></iframe>

      Sick double play / Smooth short stop animation reaching for ball up middle
      <iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/fDXqKOZR-I0" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="420"></iframe>

      My favorite, great angle by shortstop, very realistic looking
      <iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/aj-3Iv63z6A" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="420"></iframe>

      Nice Double play flip / Almost DP but great throw by SS / Sick barehand on chopper SMOOTH
      <iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/H0ROwneKVpA" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="420"></iframe>
      Last edited by shogunofharlem3; 01-31-2013, 04:58 PM.
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      • mkharsh33
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        • Nov 2006
        • 12781

        #18
        Re: Anticipation Attribute

        Those videos are amazing - EXACTLY what we're looking for. I'll post the .ROS file here in this thread today. I would like to as that EVERY player be lowered down to the 25 anticipation slider - all levels of minors and all free agents. Once you post it here after the edits, I'll continue to add the transactions and post it in Bretsky523's thread. Good stuff, guys - and glad to see the teamwork on this! Thanks!
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        • shogunofharlem3
          MVP
          • Dec 2007
          • 1799

          #19
          Re: Anticipation Attribute

          I love editing attributes and finding improvements. The goalie one on 2k10 was amazingly fun. I just wish I got on this sooner.

          I will say, for those who haven't tried yet. Be warned, poor fielders and poor fielders. There is a reason Ortiz will NOT be playing 1st base for me anymore.

          When I'm out of work today I'll tinker a bit. I forget what my Power is at for my sliders, but I do know that I have been playing with OF / IF speed of 5/0 and have had no issues. I do however jack up the outfield throw speed to 95 to counteract their slow release.

          Question, do you guys do the global edit on the game itself or do you use the Reditor or something? I tinkered with the Reditor but couldn't figure out global edits, maybe disabled in the free version?

          One other attribute I was looking at but don't have enough evidence to comment on yet is the Catcher's "Blocking the Plate" attribute. I hate their positioning behind the plate on throws coming home. Wondering if Jacking that up to 99 will get them to animate quicker to the front of the plate or something.. intersting
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          • tvman
            MVP
            • Nov 2010
            • 1392

            #20
            Re: Anticipation Attribute

            Originally posted by shogunofharlem3
            I love editing attributes and finding improvements. The goalie one on 2k10 was amazingly fun. I just wish I got on this sooner.

            I will say, for those who haven't tried yet. Be warned, poor fielders and poor fielders. There is a reason Ortiz will NOT be playing 1st base for me anymore.

            When I'm out of work today I'll tinker a bit. I forget what my Power is at for my sliders, but I do know that I have been playing with OF / IF speed of 5/0 and have had no issues. I do however jack up the outfield throw speed to 95 to counteract their slow release.

            Question, do you guys do the global edit on the game itself or do you use the Reditor or something? I tinkered with the Reditor but couldn't figure out global edits, maybe disabled in the free version?

            One other attribute I was looking at but don't have enough evidence to comment on yet is the Catcher's "Blocking the Plate" attribute. I hate their positioning behind the plate on throws coming home. Wondering if Jacking that up to 99 will get them to animate quicker to the front of the plate or something.. intersting
            Yeah no globals in free reditor.

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            • shogunofharlem3
              MVP
              • Dec 2007
              • 1799

              #21
              Re: Anticipation Attribute

              Ok, played a few games. Played one with power at 80. I had to IF / OF speed to 10 / 15. Played good, but then I played 3 with power at 50 and it was smooth as silk with defense at 0 / 5. I'll keep tinkering, it is beer o'clock mind you.

              ALso, here is a video FINALLY showing Catcher's "Blocking the Plate" rating at 99. I don't recall ever seeing this animation before at home. Could be wrong but my hunch was right, he slides right to the top of the plate and blocks. Pretty cool.
              <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/SyzixLsXgGg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

              Just another simple yet slick double play.

              <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/if68dW-Nk7s" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
              Last edited by shogunofharlem3; 02-09-2013, 11:31 PM.
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              • Bretsky523
                Pro
                • Sep 2012
                • 959

                #22
                Re: Anticipation Attribute

                So A Few Questions.

                1. Are you saying that we should put blocking the plate at 99 for all catchers
                2. How much does the anticipation affect overalls
                3. Will we need to edit pitchers too
                4. Could you post the sliders your using for everyone to see
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                • shogunofharlem3
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                  • Dec 2007
                  • 1799

                  #23
                  Re: Anticipation Attribute

                  Originally posted by Bretsky523
                  So A Few Questions.

                  1. Are you saying that we should put blocking the plate at 99 for all catchers

                  Not sure just yet. BUt I have seen that one play I put on video of him finally getting to the front of home plate whereas they usually stay behind. Seems to work well. Just had another play at the plate and he was in front again. So, I guess, yes, seems to help

                  2. How much does the anticipation affect overalls

                  I edited Jose Altuve who was an overall of 85. His anticipation rating was an 87. I put his ant down to 25 and his overall stayed at 85.
                  Jed Lowrie is 80 overalll. Ant was 69, put it at 25, stayed at 80 overall.
                  So I guess it doesn't affect much.

                  3. Will we need to edit pitchers too

                  Not sure yet. THey don't field much as it is so I left them be so far. But my next thing is to try to see if I can get them over to cover first quicker. Maybe through range or ant. WE'll see, been hard to test as that doesn't happen frequently enough to get results.

                  4. Could you post the sliders your using for everyone to see

                  NEVER!

                  I actually used a set on 2kshare that was under most downloaded or something. Said OS on it. But I tinkered a few things.

                  I'll post them in a few. WIfe just got home. GImme a few.
                  Once again, to anyone who hasn't tried the 25 yet, please do. The results have been super smooth. The guys are very calm, not a lot of frantic plays or panic.
                  Last edited by shogunofharlem3; 02-01-2013, 07:53 PM.
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                  • Bretsky523
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                    • Sep 2012
                    • 959

                    #24
                    Thanks you these will definitely help me and mk's rosters
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                    • shogunofharlem3
                      MVP
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 1799

                      #25
                      Re: Anticipation Attribute

                      Here are the sliders I am using. They were from Krazomatik28 on 2kshare under Top Rated, "Sliders for true realixm operation sports".

                      I used them as a base set and tinkered to match my play style and ability. As a 34 year old I don't have tons of time to play. So I'm not as good as I'd like to be nor to I have time to play games that take an hour and half.

                      Here is what I adjusted to so far. I also noticed that every time in my testing that I clicked up Batting Power, I would also have to bump up the fielding speed to match the speed of the ball. WHich is why I left Batting power at 50 for now as it seems to create the most fluid animations. WIll keep testing though.

                      Difficulty (user / cpu)

                      Batting

                      Batting Contact 45 / 55
                      Batting Power 50 / 50
                      Bunt Contact 40 / 60
                      Bunt Success 45 / 60
                      Batter Eye Freq 0 / x

                      Pitching

                      Pitch meter speed 65 / x
                      Pitch Speed 100 / 90
                      Pitch Break Influence 45 / 45 (May raise this one as I like pitches that move!)
                      Pitcher Composure 55 / 50
                      Pitcher Control 30 / x
                      AI pitch success 50
                      AI Strike ZOne Tendency 50


                      FIelding

                      THrow Acc 50 /
                      Gather Error 50 / 50
                      THrowing error frequency 45 / 45
                      OF Throw speed 95 / 95
                      IF Throw Speed 80 / 80
                      OF Run Speed 5 / 5
                      IF Run Speed 0 / 0

                      Running

                      Base Runner Speed 70 / 70
                      Pickoff Success 40 / x
                      Catcher Arm Strength 65 / 65
                      Catcher Arm Accuracy 45 / 45
                      AI hit 'n run tendency 55
                      AI Sac Bunt Tendency 60
                      AI Squeeze Tendency 65
                      Ai Base Running Aggression 65
                      AI Steal Aggresson 60
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                      • Rdrunner
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                        • Jan 2012
                        • 263

                        #26
                        Re: Anticipation Attribute

                        Gotta say, I am impressed with the smoothness.

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                        • mkharsh33
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                          • Nov 2006
                          • 12781

                          #27
                          Re: Anticipation Attribute

                          Question: if there's no global editing on the free Reditor, these would ALL have to be done manually for EVERY player in this game, ONE AT A TIME... If so, how would that be done? I am posting files in Bretsky's thread, and it's a "working file" in that, even though I post a file, I already have edits done to it - so the time put into it would be wasted if someone were to work on a file that's been put up.

                          I just want to make sure if we do this, then we do it wisely - and I also fear some more testing would have to be done on sliders, and at this point I don't know if I want to do this.

                          I also want to see what 2K13 looks like - wished we had more information on it. I fear it will be a patch of 2K12, but then again, we just don't know. Thanks!
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                          • Rdrunner
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 263

                            #28
                            Re: Anticipation Attribute

                            Originally posted by mkharsh33
                            Question: if there's no global editing on the free Reditor, these would ALL have to be done manually for EVERY player in this game, ONE AT A TIME... If so, how would that be done? I am posting files in Bretsky's thread, and it's a "working file" in that, even though I post a file, I already have edits done to it - so the time put into it would be wasted if someone were to work on a file that's been put up.

                            I just want to make sure if we do this, then we do it wisely - and I also fear some more testing would have to be done on sliders, and at this point I don't know if I want to do this.

                            I also want to see what 2K13 looks like - wished we had more information on it. I fear it will be a patch of 2K12, but then again, we just don't know. Thanks!
                            It's possible that they were working on a new contract with MLB all along and been working on 13 in the event they did sign a new contract, so it is possible it would be more than a patch.

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                            • Rdrunner
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 263

                              #29
                              Re: Anticipation Attribute

                              I'll also play with the sliders settings that are listed below and if I notice anything or tweak anything, I'll post it here to see how the changes work for everyone else.

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                              • Rdrunner
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                                • Jan 2012
                                • 263

                                #30
                                Re: Anticipation Attribute

                                I had OF speed at 0 but there were a total of 7 doubles in the game and 6 singles. I'm going to try OF at 10 and see what happens. Other than that, the various locations of batted balls are nice and fielding is definitely smoother and more realistic. Fielders are not racing at full tilt from the get go and in some situations never get to full speed but rather slow down and bend down to pick up the ball. It looks pretty nice.

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