Swinging For Power In MLB 2K13

[brendanrfoley]

Re: Swinging For Power In MLB 2K13

Search the net for 3-4 year-old 2K dev interviews. The feature was removed, and anyone who has followed and played this series the past few years knows that.

I own and played every version of the MLB2K series on the XBOX except 2K6.

I know developers said they removed step influence, but the legacy elements of this engine are a mess. All I am saying is to me, it feels like the timing is still important. I used to pull back very early and saw poor results. Pulling back late in the wind-up produces better results for me.

It's totally anecdotal and I may be wrong. That said, I trust very little 2K says about its baseball franchise despite the fact I like it.

EDIT: BTW, it feels great to be talking about this game on the boards again. I changed jobs last spring and the stresses of a new job essentially kept me from playing 2K12 and posting here. It feels good to be back!

[Baile]

Re: Swinging For Power In MLB 2K13

I know the Step Influence Slider has been removed. What Brendan stated was the timing of pulling the R Stick back (which by default is Step-Influence, whether 2k says so or not) plays a key part when you Power Swing.

If the contact swing can be performed without pulling back the stick -- which was the step-influence gesture prior to 2K10 -- why would that not apply to the power swing as well? Logically, it makes no sense that step-influence would still be in the game for power swings but not contact.

[Baile]

Re: Swinging For Power In MLB 2K13

the legacy elements of this engine are a mess. All I am saying is to me, it feels like the timing is still important.

Okay, different story there. Could be the game coding is such a mess that it does affect one and not the other, I could see that with this series. Personally, all I've noticed is the power swing animation moves much too quickly, it's unnatural. It feels like the batter is flicking at the ball with a pencil, whereas it should feel like he's taking a mighty swing.

[brendanrfoley]

Re: Swinging For Power In MLB 2K13

Search the net for 3-4 year-old 2K dev interviews. The feature was removed, and anyone who has followed and played this series the past few years knows that.

Taking about it on the 2K forum, MLB 2K10:
https://www.2ksports.com/forums/show....php?p=3056710

Other links where it's discussed:
http://kotaku.com/5455449/mlb-2k10-p...even-the-count
http://www.operationsports.com/news/...-gametrailers/

Okay, different story there. Could be the game coding is such a mess that it does affect one and not the other, I could see that with this series. Personally, all I've noticed is the power swing animation moves much too quickly, it's unnatural. It feels like the batter is flicking at the ball with a pencil, whereas it should feel like he's taking a mighty swing.

I notice the same thing.

The defensive swing feels the slowest at times, though that may be intentional (the hitter is dragging the bat through the zone to increase chances of contact).

[Baile]

Re: Swinging For Power In MLB 2K13

I notice the same thing.

High Heat 2004 on the Xbox had a terrific swing animation and dynamic. The power swing was slower than the contact swing, plus there was a slight delay when you pushed the swing button, as if the batter were rearing way back before swinging. You had to change your whole timing and rhythm depending on which swing you chose.

I'm going to check out your theory about the power swing, I'm interested now.

[bigfnjoe96]

If the contact swing can be performed without pulling back the stick -- which was the step-influence gesture prior to 2K10 -- why would that not apply to the power swing as well? Logically, it makes no sense that step-influence would still be in the game for power swings but not contact.

As Brendan stated, the legacy seems to still exist as per the swing animation. Maybe I should have stated it that way. Sorry for the confusion

The animation is triggered by the swing timing which is where I believe "Step-Influence" legacy still exist.



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[tvman]

Re: Swinging For Power In MLB 2K13

I'm going to give this a go. I always just pulled back early thinking it didn't matter, if it does then this would make power swinging a lot better!

By the way I sure don't recall any power swing in Highheat?

[Baile]

Re: Swinging For Power In MLB 2K13

By the way I sure don't recall any power swing in Highheat?

Are you saying there was no 2-button swing system: no separate button for power swing versus contact? If not, then I really am losing it, sorry.

EDIT: Aha from The Show forum!

I use High Heat's batting house rules, so 2-0, 3-0, if I have a strong hitter I'll power swing. Nothing like getting a 2-0 FB and jacking it!

[bigfnjoe96]

I'm going to give this a go. I always just pulled back early thinking it didn't matter, if it does then this would make power swinging a lot better!

By the way I sure don't recall any power swing in Highheat?

The way I time my swing, is waiting for the pitcher to show the ball during his wind-up(usually the ball is visible on the back end of the wind-up)

Waiting to see the ball @ the point of release usually is too late to make solid contact & leads to those weird swing animations you see

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[tvman]

Re: Swinging For Power In MLB 2K13

Are you saying there was no 2-button swing system: no separate button for power swing versus contact? If not, then I really am losing it, sorry.

EDIT: Aha from The Show forum!

No power swing in Higheat that I ever saw.

[Baile]

Re: Swinging For Power In MLB 2K13

No power swing in Higheat that I ever saw.

Several articles/quotes on the net about it. It had a variety of hitting options obviously:

"The biggest thing that makes it the best baseball game on the market in my opinion is the batting interface. High Heat is the only game (to my knowledge) that doesn't force you to use either a batting cursor, power swing button, or both.

I like the good old fashioned hitting system based on timing. You only have a split second to decide on the pitch once it's thrown, let alone moving a batting cursor over the path of the ball so you can hit it. Same thing goes for the power swing button. High heat allows you to just worry about timing your swing right and going with the pitch."

http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/Sports-General/High-Heat-Baseball-2004/td-p/11356558

[MizzouRah]

Re: Swinging For Power In MLB 2K13

I pull it back before the pitcher even pitches if I'm doing a power swing and I don't notice any difference doing that or pulling back as the pitcher releases the pitch?

[tvman]

Re: Swinging For Power In MLB 2K13

Several articles/quotes on the net about it. It had a variety of hitting options obviously:

"The biggest thing that makes it the best baseball game on the market in my opinion is the batting interface. High Heat is the only game (to my knowledge) that doesn't force you to use either a batting cursor, power swing button, or both.

I like the good old fashioned hitting system based on timing. You only have a split second to decide on the pitch once it's thrown, let alone moving a batting cursor over the path of the ball so you can hit it. Same thing goes for the power swing button. High heat allows you to just worry about timing your swing right and going with the pitch."

http://community.us.playstation.com/.../td-p/11356558

So are you agreeing with me that highheat doesn't have a power swing cause that is what i'm saying and the quotes you posted agree with me!
Hey I found an online manual. Man I need to pull that game out again.

http://www.allgame.com/game.php?id=42336&tab=controls

[don4593]

Re: Swinging For Power In MLB 2K13

The way I time my swing, is waiting for the pitcher to show the ball during his wind-up(usually the ball is visible on the back end of the wind-up)

Waiting to see the ball @ the point of release usually is too late to make solid contact & leads to those weird swing animations you see

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What can you discern from watching the point of release of a pitcher? Like, what does that tell you? Obviously, it must change and this is something I have yet to pick up on. Right now I can't tell the difference between a fastball any other pitch. All of speed pitches look like sinkers to me -- even 2 seamers and sliders.

[bigfnjoe96]

What can you discern from watching the point of release of a pitcher? Like, what does that tell you? Obviously, it must change and this is something I have yet to pick up on. Right now I can't tell the difference between a fastball any other pitch. All of speed pitches look like sinkers to me -- even 2 seamers and sliders.

Don don't worry about discerning the pitch. Use the situation of the AB to your advantage. If the count is in your favor, more than likely you'll see a fastball. If the count is in the pitcher's favor more than likely your gonna see off speed stuff, or stuff out of the zone.

Also check the D-Pad to see what types of pitches the pitcher likes to throw, and @ what percentage they throw those pitches.

This should help.

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