"zone" hitting question

**cappadocian** · 03-01-2004, 07:02 PM

Re: \"zone\" hitting question

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RatBastard said:
MVP does NOT have that though.. I asked Steve in the BETA impressions. He said you will always hit the ball if timing is correct. Only the power/type of hit is unknown.

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Which I think is a very bad thing and makes all this zone stuff nothing more than eye candy. This _may_ be the single most difficult thing to do in making sports games: separate SIM from ARCADE. You can not please everyone (though I'd be pleased as peaches to pay $75-100 for a baseball game if it totally SIM-based somehow), so I think this is why we see such a blurry line between features that actually work as they should and games that at times lack any enthusiasm or life. If the zone hitting is actually just timed-hitting, then I will be one PO'd customer

**GameDude** · 03-01-2004, 07:05 PM

Re: \"zone\" hitting question

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cappadocian said:
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RatBastard said:
MVP does NOT have that though.. I asked Steve in the BETA impressions. He said you will always hit the ball if timing is correct. Only the power/type of hit is unknown.

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Which I think is a very bad thing and makes all this zone stuff nothing more than eye candy. This _may_ be the single most difficult thing to do in making sports games: separate SIM from ARCADE. You can not please everyone (though I'd be pleased as peaches to pay $75-100 for a baseball game if it totally SIM-based somehow), so I think this is why we see such a blurry line between features that actually work as they should and games that at times lack any enthusiasm or life. If the zone hitting is actually just timed-hitting, then I will be one PO'd customer

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It's not... he was talking about MVP.

**GameDude** · 03-01-2004, 07:05 PM

Re: \"zone\" hitting question

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cappadocian said:
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RatBastard said:
MVP does NOT have that though.. I asked Steve in the BETA impressions. He said you will always hit the ball if timing is correct. Only the power/type of hit is unknown.

<hr /></blockquote>

Which I think is a very bad thing and makes all this zone stuff nothing more than eye candy. This _may_ be the single most difficult thing to do in making sports games: separate SIM from ARCADE. You can not please everyone (though I'd be pleased as peaches to pay $75-100 for a baseball game if it totally SIM-based somehow), so I think this is why we see such a blurry line between features that actually work as they should and games that at times lack any enthusiasm or life. If the zone hitting is actually just timed-hitting, then I will be one PO'd customer

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It's not... he was talking about MVP.

**GameDude** · 03-01-2004, 07:05 PM

Re: \"zone\" hitting question

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cappadocian said:
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RatBastard said:
MVP does NOT have that though.. I asked Steve in the BETA impressions. He said you will always hit the ball if timing is correct. Only the power/type of hit is unknown.

<hr /></blockquote>

Which I think is a very bad thing and makes all this zone stuff nothing more than eye candy. This _may_ be the single most difficult thing to do in making sports games: separate SIM from ARCADE. You can not please everyone (though I'd be pleased as peaches to pay $75-100 for a baseball game if it totally SIM-based somehow), so I think this is why we see such a blurry line between features that actually work as they should and games that at times lack any enthusiasm or life. If the zone hitting is actually just timed-hitting, then I will be one PO'd customer

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It's not... he was talking about MVP.

**RatBastard** · 03-01-2004, 11:54 PM

Re: \"zone\" hitting question

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MuffinMcFluffin said:
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RatBastard said:
For FP or anyone that has played the DEMO...

Strike Zone
1 2 3
4 5 6
7 8 9

With the new zone-style hitting(the cursorless one with MORE than the 9 zones), lets say a pitch is on the corner of zones 3 and 5.. Basically a strike just North East of center.

When you try and hit this pitch, do you just jam the stick up and to the right fully or do you move the stick slightly up and to the right in order to hit the ball properly?

If you do jam up fully up and right, will you miss the ball completely or will it be a little grounder?

If it works this way, this might be the greatest batting mode yet. I would LOVE to swing and miss on strikes. SOmething that, assuming proper timing, will not happen in MVP.

Anyone have any idea or answer?

Thanks.

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Yes, you would miss the ball if you aimed fully up and right. It's like that, the analog direction is very sensitive, so that... yeah. You need to aim perfectly for the best contact.

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Are you saying this from experience with the DEMO or cuz you THINK that is how it will be?

Like I said, if thats the way it is(swinging and missing cuz you moved the stick too far), that will be GREAT!!

**RatBastard** · 03-01-2004, 11:54 PM

Re: \"zone\" hitting question

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MuffinMcFluffin said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
RatBastard said:
For FP or anyone that has played the DEMO...

Strike Zone
1 2 3
4 5 6
7 8 9

With the new zone-style hitting(the cursorless one with MORE than the 9 zones), lets say a pitch is on the corner of zones 3 and 5.. Basically a strike just North East of center.

When you try and hit this pitch, do you just jam the stick up and to the right fully or do you move the stick slightly up and to the right in order to hit the ball properly?

If you do jam up fully up and right, will you miss the ball completely or will it be a little grounder?

If it works this way, this might be the greatest batting mode yet. I would LOVE to swing and miss on strikes. SOmething that, assuming proper timing, will not happen in MVP.

Anyone have any idea or answer?

Thanks.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yes, you would miss the ball if you aimed fully up and right. It's like that, the analog direction is very sensitive, so that... yeah. You need to aim perfectly for the best contact.

<hr /></blockquote>

Are you saying this from experience with the DEMO or cuz you THINK that is how it will be?

Like I said, if thats the way it is(swinging and missing cuz you moved the stick too far), that will be GREAT!!

**RatBastard** · 03-01-2004, 11:54 PM

Re: \"zone\" hitting question

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
MuffinMcFluffin said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
RatBastard said:
For FP or anyone that has played the DEMO...

Strike Zone
1 2 3
4 5 6
7 8 9

With the new zone-style hitting(the cursorless one with MORE than the 9 zones), lets say a pitch is on the corner of zones 3 and 5.. Basically a strike just North East of center.

When you try and hit this pitch, do you just jam the stick up and to the right fully or do you move the stick slightly up and to the right in order to hit the ball properly?

If you do jam up fully up and right, will you miss the ball completely or will it be a little grounder?

If it works this way, this might be the greatest batting mode yet. I would LOVE to swing and miss on strikes. SOmething that, assuming proper timing, will not happen in MVP.

Anyone have any idea or answer?

Thanks.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yes, you would miss the ball if you aimed fully up and right. It's like that, the analog direction is very sensitive, so that... yeah. You need to aim perfectly for the best contact.

<hr /></blockquote>

Are you saying this from experience with the DEMO or cuz you THINK that is how it will be?

Like I said, if thats the way it is(swinging and missing cuz you moved the stick too far), that will be GREAT!!

**MuffinMcFluffin** · 03-01-2004, 11:57 PM

Re: \"zone\" hitting question

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RatBastard said:
Are you saying this from experience with the DEMO or cuz you THINK that is how it will be?

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This is based on what FatPitcher said.

**MuffinMcFluffin** · 03-01-2004, 11:57 PM

Re: \"zone\" hitting question

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RatBastard said:
Are you saying this from experience with the DEMO or cuz you THINK that is how it will be?

<hr /></blockquote>

This is based on what FatPitcher said.

**MuffinMcFluffin** · 03-01-2004, 11:57 PM

Re: \"zone\" hitting question

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RatBastard said:
Are you saying this from experience with the DEMO or cuz you THINK that is how it will be?

<hr /></blockquote>

This is based on what FatPitcher said.

**RatBastard** · 03-02-2004, 12:00 AM

Re: \"zone\" hitting question

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
MuffinMcFluffin said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
RatBastard said:
Are you saying this from experience with the DEMO or cuz you THINK that is how it will be?

<hr /></blockquote>

This is based on what FatPitcher said.