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  • wildcatchild
    MVP
    • Jan 2003
    • 2129

    #286
    Re: Beta Impressions Thread

    I'm not trying to spoil anyone's optimism, but it sounds to me like this game is the same game as last year's. I'm not sold yet on any of this year's games. Which is kind of sad.
    "He who controlleths the backboard, controlleths the game." - Adolph Rupp

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    • MartinDihigo
      MVP
      • Mar 2004
      • 1000

      #287
      Re: Beta Impressions Thread

      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
      sdrotar said:
      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
      Shawn,

      So you're saying the "True Aim" batting feels more like timing hitting?

      If that's the case, that kind of sucks.

      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

      No, the aim definitely plays a factor - it's just that it seems to work based on making contact only, and not how it affects the flight of the ball. If get an outside pitch, and make contact with it by swinging outside, I would expect that the ball would go to opposite field more often than not. However, contact of the part seems to be at least somewhat independent of this. You must aim to ge good contact - but where it goes doesn't seem to be based on where you made the contact - does what I'm saying make sense?

      Let me try this: If you played last year's game, and you made contact on the right side of the cursor, the ball would tail right. Here, you must aim correctly to make contact for the most part - and if you do, it's like hitting in the center of the cursor... and the ball goes where it goes based on the timing of the swing - either late, early, or just right.

      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">


      YES!!!

      They did it right!!
      Like in real baseball if a righthanded batter swings early it will go to left (even if the ball was outside and he aimed outside to make good contact) . It doesn't matter where he was aiming for. Same if he's late it always goes to right field . If he;s underneath the ball- pop up, etc... Of course a right handed hitter can aim for right field (like in a hit n run) by swinging late .
      IMO a more realistic hitting system.

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      • MartinDihigo
        MVP
        • Mar 2004
        • 1000

        #288
        Re: Beta Impressions Thread

        </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
        sdrotar said:
        </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
        Shawn,

        So you're saying the "True Aim" batting feels more like timing hitting?

        If that's the case, that kind of sucks.

        <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

        No, the aim definitely plays a factor - it's just that it seems to work based on making contact only, and not how it affects the flight of the ball. If get an outside pitch, and make contact with it by swinging outside, I would expect that the ball would go to opposite field more often than not. However, contact of the part seems to be at least somewhat independent of this. You must aim to ge good contact - but where it goes doesn't seem to be based on where you made the contact - does what I'm saying make sense?

        Let me try this: If you played last year's game, and you made contact on the right side of the cursor, the ball would tail right. Here, you must aim correctly to make contact for the most part - and if you do, it's like hitting in the center of the cursor... and the ball goes where it goes based on the timing of the swing - either late, early, or just right.

        <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">


        YES!!!

        They did it right!!
        Like in real baseball if a righthanded batter swings early it will go to left (even if the ball was outside and he aimed outside to make good contact) . It doesn't matter where he was aiming for. Same if he's late it always goes to right field . If he;s underneath the ball- pop up, etc... Of course a right handed hitter can aim for right field (like in a hit n run) by swinging late .
        IMO a more realistic hitting system.

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        • MartinDihigo
          MVP
          • Mar 2004
          • 1000

          #289
          Re: Beta Impressions Thread

          </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
          sdrotar said:
          </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
          Shawn,

          So you're saying the "True Aim" batting feels more like timing hitting?

          If that's the case, that kind of sucks.

          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

          No, the aim definitely plays a factor - it's just that it seems to work based on making contact only, and not how it affects the flight of the ball. If get an outside pitch, and make contact with it by swinging outside, I would expect that the ball would go to opposite field more often than not. However, contact of the part seems to be at least somewhat independent of this. You must aim to ge good contact - but where it goes doesn't seem to be based on where you made the contact - does what I'm saying make sense?

          Let me try this: If you played last year's game, and you made contact on the right side of the cursor, the ball would tail right. Here, you must aim correctly to make contact for the most part - and if you do, it's like hitting in the center of the cursor... and the ball goes where it goes based on the timing of the swing - either late, early, or just right.

          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">


          YES!!!

          They did it right!!
          Like in real baseball if a righthanded batter swings early it will go to left (even if the ball was outside and he aimed outside to make good contact) . It doesn't matter where he was aiming for. Same if he's late it always goes to right field . If he;s underneath the ball- pop up, etc... Of course a right handed hitter can aim for right field (like in a hit n run) by swinging late .
          IMO a more realistic hitting system.

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          • sdrotar
            OS Managing Ed., 2002-07
            • Jul 2002
            • 1055

            #290
            Re: Beta Impressions Thread

            </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
            YES!!!

            They did it right!!
            Like in real baseball if a righthanded batter swings early it will go to left (even if the ball was outside and he aimed outside to make good contact) . It doesn't matter where he was aiming for. Same if he's late it always goes to right field . If he;s underneath the ball- pop up, etc... Of course a right handed hitter can aim for right field (like in a hit n run) by swinging late .
            IMO a more realistic hitting system.

            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

            I completely agree with your assessment. However, I must not have explained myself well. If you aim correctly, you get extremely solid contact every time.
            You're right - and it sounds right, but in practice, it's not really working like that. It's hard to explain - sorry I'm not doing it very well. It just doesn't feel quite right. It's not bad - but it's not perfect, either.

            In real baseball, as a hitter, I can drop my wrists and flick a ball to the opposite field intentionally. It won't have great power, but I can get it there. In 'ESPN MLB", if you guess the zone right - you pound it - and the early or late swing doesn't fling the ball to the left or right like you'd expect based to the timing. I don't think it is, of course - but it feels almost random after you make contact.
            If you want to punch it through the second base hole for a hit and run - there's no way to intentionally do it -even by swinging late - if you've guessed the zone right. It's weird.

            Once again, it's not bad at all - but there are a lot of times that I hit the ball and wonder how it possibly went the direction it did.
            Shawn Drotar
            Former Managing Editor, OperationSports.com (2002-07)

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            • sdrotar
              OS Managing Ed., 2002-07
              • Jul 2002
              • 1055

              #291
              Re: Beta Impressions Thread

              </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
              YES!!!

              They did it right!!
              Like in real baseball if a righthanded batter swings early it will go to left (even if the ball was outside and he aimed outside to make good contact) . It doesn't matter where he was aiming for. Same if he's late it always goes to right field . If he;s underneath the ball- pop up, etc... Of course a right handed hitter can aim for right field (like in a hit n run) by swinging late .
              IMO a more realistic hitting system.

              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

              I completely agree with your assessment. However, I must not have explained myself well. If you aim correctly, you get extremely solid contact every time.
              You're right - and it sounds right, but in practice, it's not really working like that. It's hard to explain - sorry I'm not doing it very well. It just doesn't feel quite right. It's not bad - but it's not perfect, either.

              In real baseball, as a hitter, I can drop my wrists and flick a ball to the opposite field intentionally. It won't have great power, but I can get it there. In 'ESPN MLB", if you guess the zone right - you pound it - and the early or late swing doesn't fling the ball to the left or right like you'd expect based to the timing. I don't think it is, of course - but it feels almost random after you make contact.
              If you want to punch it through the second base hole for a hit and run - there's no way to intentionally do it -even by swinging late - if you've guessed the zone right. It's weird.

              Once again, it's not bad at all - but there are a lot of times that I hit the ball and wonder how it possibly went the direction it did.
              Shawn Drotar
              Former Managing Editor, OperationSports.com (2002-07)

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              • sdrotar
                OS Managing Ed., 2002-07
                • Jul 2002
                • 1055

                #292
                Re: Beta Impressions Thread

                </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                YES!!!

                They did it right!!
                Like in real baseball if a righthanded batter swings early it will go to left (even if the ball was outside and he aimed outside to make good contact) . It doesn't matter where he was aiming for. Same if he's late it always goes to right field . If he;s underneath the ball- pop up, etc... Of course a right handed hitter can aim for right field (like in a hit n run) by swinging late .
                IMO a more realistic hitting system.

                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                I completely agree with your assessment. However, I must not have explained myself well. If you aim correctly, you get extremely solid contact every time.
                You're right - and it sounds right, but in practice, it's not really working like that. It's hard to explain - sorry I'm not doing it very well. It just doesn't feel quite right. It's not bad - but it's not perfect, either.

                In real baseball, as a hitter, I can drop my wrists and flick a ball to the opposite field intentionally. It won't have great power, but I can get it there. In 'ESPN MLB", if you guess the zone right - you pound it - and the early or late swing doesn't fling the ball to the left or right like you'd expect based to the timing. I don't think it is, of course - but it feels almost random after you make contact.
                If you want to punch it through the second base hole for a hit and run - there's no way to intentionally do it -even by swinging late - if you've guessed the zone right. It's weird.

                Once again, it's not bad at all - but there are a lot of times that I hit the ball and wonder how it possibly went the direction it did.
                Shawn Drotar
                Former Managing Editor, OperationSports.com (2002-07)

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                • MartinDihigo
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 1000

                  #293
                  Re: Beta Impressions Thread

                  thanks shawn

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                  • MartinDihigo
                    MVP
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 1000

                    #294
                    Re: Beta Impressions Thread

                    thanks shawn

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                    • MartinDihigo
                      MVP
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 1000

                      #295
                      Re: Beta Impressions Thread

                      thanks shawn

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                      • Blzer
                        Resident film pundit
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 42531

                        #296
                        Re: Beta Impressions Thread

                        </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                        sdrotar said:
                        </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                        YES!!!

                        They did it right!!
                        Like in real baseball if a righthanded batter swings early it will go to left (even if the ball was outside and he aimed outside to make good contact) . It doesn't matter where he was aiming for. Same if he's late it always goes to right field . If he;s underneath the ball- pop up, etc... Of course a right handed hitter can aim for right field (like in a hit n run) by swinging late .
                        IMO a more realistic hitting system.

                        <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                        I completely agree with your assessment. However, I must not have explained myself well. If you aim correctly, you get extremely solid contact every time.

                        <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                        What if you break your bat in this game? Like, when you do, did you aim it correctly? And if so, I'd guess that it's safe to say that the ball didn't really travel, right?
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                        • Blzer
                          Resident film pundit
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 42531

                          #297
                          Re: Beta Impressions Thread

                          </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                          sdrotar said:
                          </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                          YES!!!

                          They did it right!!
                          Like in real baseball if a righthanded batter swings early it will go to left (even if the ball was outside and he aimed outside to make good contact) . It doesn't matter where he was aiming for. Same if he's late it always goes to right field . If he;s underneath the ball- pop up, etc... Of course a right handed hitter can aim for right field (like in a hit n run) by swinging late .
                          IMO a more realistic hitting system.

                          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                          I completely agree with your assessment. However, I must not have explained myself well. If you aim correctly, you get extremely solid contact every time.

                          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                          What if you break your bat in this game? Like, when you do, did you aim it correctly? And if so, I'd guess that it's safe to say that the ball didn't really travel, right?
                          Samsung PN60F8500 PDP / Anthem MRX 720 / Klipsch RC-62 II / Klipsch RF-82 II (x2) / Insignia NS-B2111 (x2) / SVS PC13-Ultra / SVS SB-2000 / Sony MDR-7506 Professional / Audio-Technica ATH-R70x / Sony PS3 & PS4 / DirecTV HR44-500 / DarbeeVision DVP-5000 / Panamax M5400-PM / Elgato HD60

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                          • Blzer
                            Resident film pundit
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 42531

                            #298
                            Re: Beta Impressions Thread

                            </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                            sdrotar said:
                            </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                            YES!!!

                            They did it right!!
                            Like in real baseball if a righthanded batter swings early it will go to left (even if the ball was outside and he aimed outside to make good contact) . It doesn't matter where he was aiming for. Same if he's late it always goes to right field . If he;s underneath the ball- pop up, etc... Of course a right handed hitter can aim for right field (like in a hit n run) by swinging late .
                            IMO a more realistic hitting system.

                            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                            I completely agree with your assessment. However, I must not have explained myself well. If you aim correctly, you get extremely solid contact every time.

                            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                            What if you break your bat in this game? Like, when you do, did you aim it correctly? And if so, I'd guess that it's safe to say that the ball didn't really travel, right?
                            Samsung PN60F8500 PDP / Anthem MRX 720 / Klipsch RC-62 II / Klipsch RF-82 II (x2) / Insignia NS-B2111 (x2) / SVS PC13-Ultra / SVS SB-2000 / Sony MDR-7506 Professional / Audio-Technica ATH-R70x / Sony PS3 & PS4 / DirecTV HR44-500 / DarbeeVision DVP-5000 / Panamax M5400-PM / Elgato HD60

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                            • sdrotar
                              OS Managing Ed., 2002-07
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 1055

                              #299
                              Re: Beta Impressions Thread

                              </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                              What if you break your bat in this game? Like, when you do, did you aim it correctly? And if so, I'd guess that it's safe to say that the ball didn't really travel, right?

                              <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                              Balls hit off of broken bats are the only ones that don't really carry in "ESPN MLB".
                              They don't happen very often, though. For me, it's probably about once every dozen games or so thus far.
                              Shawn Drotar
                              Former Managing Editor, OperationSports.com (2002-07)

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                              • sdrotar
                                OS Managing Ed., 2002-07
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 1055

                                #300
                                Re: Beta Impressions Thread

                                </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                                What if you break your bat in this game? Like, when you do, did you aim it correctly? And if so, I'd guess that it's safe to say that the ball didn't really travel, right?

                                <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                                Balls hit off of broken bats are the only ones that don't really carry in "ESPN MLB".
                                They don't happen very often, though. For me, it's probably about once every dozen games or so thus far.
                                Shawn Drotar
                                Former Managing Editor, OperationSports.com (2002-07)

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