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  • brudjazz
    Banned
    • Nov 2004
    • 631

    #1

    Something about the screenshots

    Wow, I think the textures of the player bodies overall have improved, the faces still have that pasty look to them. Sort of a 'zombie' stare, if you will. Also, even though this year the crowds look a little more varied, it is still way too easy to see where they basically copied and pasted fan images from one sector of the image to another. It would be nice if you could actually feel like there was a crowd watching the game, and not just a barrier between the action on the field and the fact that there is nothing outside of the spectrum of the stadium.
  • myownsun
    MVP
    • Aug 2002
    • 3238

    #2
    Re: Something about the screenshots

    i agree the Graphics look alot better but the player faces still look pretty nasty But the swing animation are Much improved

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    • myownsun
      MVP
      • Aug 2002
      • 3238

      #3
      Re: Something about the screenshots

      i agree the Graphics look alot better but the player faces still look pretty nasty But the swing animation are Much improved

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      • brudjazz
        Banned
        • Nov 2004
        • 631

        #4
        Re: Something about the screenshots

        But, what about the crowds? I'm one who feels that with baseball games, it just doesn't feel like we're at a game. Why do the crowds have to look so pixelated, cardboard-ated (new term, LOL!), smudgy, etc? Why does every 10th person look like a woman with a grey sweater? Exaggerating, of course, but this is the kind of treatment that baseball games have been getting. What about the dugouts. It never looks like there is any life in the dugouts. No movement whatsoever. You'd think they all had rigor mortis or something.

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        • brudjazz
          Banned
          • Nov 2004
          • 631

          #5
          Re: Something about the screenshots

          But, what about the crowds? I'm one who feels that with baseball games, it just doesn't feel like we're at a game. Why do the crowds have to look so pixelated, cardboard-ated (new term, LOL!), smudgy, etc? Why does every 10th person look like a woman with a grey sweater? Exaggerating, of course, but this is the kind of treatment that baseball games have been getting. What about the dugouts. It never looks like there is any life in the dugouts. No movement whatsoever. You'd think they all had rigor mortis or something.

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          • BrianFifaFan
            Semi-retired
            • Oct 2003
            • 4137

            #6
            Re: Something about the screenshots

            I agree with you about the cut-out flat crowds. I believe that's kind of a next-gen thing, though. I know that even with MVP on PC last year that crowds can kill frame rates; especially 3d crowds. I think that's why developers are stuck with using cut-scenes to give life to the crowds. It's just too processor intensive. Don't worry. Next-box will make it all better.
            Note to Tiburon Marketing:

            A great product sells itself, no "back of the box" features required! (See Fifa...)

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            • BrianFifaFan
              Semi-retired
              • Oct 2003
              • 4137

              #7
              Re: Something about the screenshots

              I agree with you about the cut-out flat crowds. I believe that's kind of a next-gen thing, though. I know that even with MVP on PC last year that crowds can kill frame rates; especially 3d crowds. I think that's why developers are stuck with using cut-scenes to give life to the crowds. It's just too processor intensive. Don't worry. Next-box will make it all better.
              Note to Tiburon Marketing:

              A great product sells itself, no "back of the box" features required! (See Fifa...)

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              • ComfortablyLomb
                MVP
                • Sep 2003
                • 3548

                #8
                Re: Something about the screenshots

                I've got no problem with the cutout crowds so long as it means that there won''t be framerate problems. They don't look as bad as people make them sound.

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                • ComfortablyLomb
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 3548

                  #9
                  Re: Something about the screenshots

                  I've got no problem with the cutout crowds so long as it means that there won''t be framerate problems. They don't look as bad as people make them sound.

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                  • Cardot
                    I'm not on InstantFace.
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 6164

                    #10
                    Re: Something about the screenshots

                    Originally posted by brudjazz
                    But, what about the crowds? I'm one who feels that with baseball games, it just doesn't feel like we're at a game.
                    This has been one thing that I always felt with the WSB series. Stadiums look nice, but there is just something that feels missing. It looks like a nice background, but you don't feel like you are at the park.

                    ASB had its share of issues, but the stadiums always had a great feel. I don't know if it was the details, the lighting, the angles or whatever, but when you played in Ebbetts field or the Polo Grounds, you really felt like you were going back in time.

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                    • Cardot
                      I'm not on InstantFace.
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 6164

                      #11
                      Re: Something about the screenshots

                      Originally posted by brudjazz
                      But, what about the crowds? I'm one who feels that with baseball games, it just doesn't feel like we're at a game.
                      This has been one thing that I always felt with the WSB series. Stadiums look nice, but there is just something that feels missing. It looks like a nice background, but you don't feel like you are at the park.

                      ASB had its share of issues, but the stadiums always had a great feel. I don't know if it was the details, the lighting, the angles or whatever, but when you played in Ebbetts field or the Polo Grounds, you really felt like you were going back in time.

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                      • glucklich
                        Banned
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 4272

                        #12
                        Re: Something about the screenshots

                        I think its a sameness factor. The person who described the 10th person being a woman in a gray sweater was on point but its not just with the crowd. The players also lack variation. And then on top of that they look stiff and in some cases they look like they have the glove on the wrong hand.

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                        • glucklich
                          Banned
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 4272

                          #13
                          Re: Something about the screenshots

                          I think its a sameness factor. The person who described the 10th person being a woman in a gray sweater was on point but its not just with the crowd. The players also lack variation. And then on top of that they look stiff and in some cases they look like they have the glove on the wrong hand.

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                          • Blzer
                            Resident film pundit
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 42526

                            #14
                            Re: Something about the screenshots

                            It was the fact that the stadiums actually felt large, and that the structures in the stadiums had a nice design to them.

                            In my next post, I'll show you my biggest complaint about stadiums on ESPN.
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                            • Blzer
                              Resident film pundit
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 42526

                              #15
                              Re: Something about the screenshots

                              It was the fact that the stadiums actually felt large, and that the structures in the stadiums had a nice design to them.

                              In my next post, I'll show you my biggest complaint about stadiums on ESPN.
                              Samsung PN60F8500 PDP / Anthem MRX 720 / Klipsch RC-62 II / Klipsch RF-82 II (x2) / Insignia NS-B2111 (x2) / SVS PC13-Ultra / SVS SB-2000 / Sony MDR-7506 Professional / Audio-Technica ATH-R70x / Sony PS3 & PS4 / DirecTV HR44-500 / DarbeeVision DVP-5000 / Panamax M5400-PM / Elgato HD60

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