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  • backbreaker
    Banned
    • Jul 2002
    • 3991

    #91
    Re: Slam Zone why do you think its Arcadey

    Originally posted by RattDaddee
    Wow, you just compared being judgmental towards a videogame feature to extreme racial prejudice.

    That's amazing.
    I knew the obligatory, "oooooh, you compared this feature to racial prejuidice would come. Just look at what I'm dealing with people, who fear change and comfortable with the status quo. Its a methaphor, and methaphorically speaking if you chose to look before you leap, then maybe you would see the path you chose.

    Prejuide or Pre Judge, is what you and others are doing, first learn and then discern it if you must.

    As a point of reference so know one will be offended. I'm over 40, from Memphis, Tn. and have seen the effects of Jim Crow south as well as witnessed it, I now reside in Los Angeles, Ca. so before you travelled that road consider the source.

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    • Afroman4ever
      Banned
      • May 2003
      • 181

      #92
      Re: Slam Zone why do you think its Arcadey

      Originally posted by NoSkillz50
      like VIP, Cribs, and Celeb Profiles in ESPN NFL 2K, this is a gimmick.
      and a VERY CORNY gimmick...everytime I see that SLAM ZONE garbage in a video I can't help but start laughing as it SCREAMS ARCADE

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      • Afroman4ever
        Banned
        • May 2003
        • 181

        #93
        Re: Slam Zone why do you think its Arcadey

        Originally posted by NoSkillz50
        like VIP, Cribs, and Celeb Profiles in ESPN NFL 2K, this is a gimmick.
        and a VERY CORNY gimmick...everytime I see that SLAM ZONE garbage in a video I can't help but start laughing as it SCREAMS ARCADE

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        • backbreaker
          Banned
          • Jul 2002
          • 3991

          #94
          Re: Slam Zone why do you think its Arcadey

          Originally posted by backbreaker
          Slam Zone

          You have the same feature in MVP this year, only its called "Hitters Eye" great choice of words however. 989, has been using guess pitch since forever, at it hasn't changed since its inception. Pretty much guess pitch type and location, is equivalent to sitting on a pitch. And, both games rely on just the attribute of the player visa vie ratings.

          2Kgames, has implemented this feature, and like all its games, allow the enduser dictate the result. Yes, the slo-Mo, and Joe Morgan statement adds to the complaint of Arcadey. But, Just think of the guess pitch for a walk off home run, based on the adrenaline pumping when you're pounding away on whatever button, to fill the meter for a game winning home run.

          I also believe that the meter/powerbar will reflect the power hitting attribute. What do I mean, well if you have a player, who's power hitting lets say is 40 out of 100, the meter will pop up at 40% filled, so he will have too work to get to the max of the meters power bar. Now if you have a guy like Barry Bonds, who's power hitting is lets say 90%, he doesn't have too work as hard to get the power bar to full capacity.

          We all know, that hitters sit on pitches, so thats all this is, now if it equals arcadey, call me pac man.

          To the Slam Zone detractors, I apologize. I just watched the developer interview(gamespot), and Slam Zone isn't even part of the guess pitch like I thought it would be. Pared you were right it not implemented like I thought. Its basically a pitcher hanging a pitch or making a mistake pitch over the plate. Its nothing like 989's or EA's, this just appears to be a random occurrence to add some excitement to the game. I was defending slam zone because I thought it was part of guess pitch, now that I know its not a part of guess pitch, I'm leaning more towards the arcade side but I will reserve judgement until I play the game.

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          • backbreaker
            Banned
            • Jul 2002
            • 3991

            #95
            Re: Slam Zone why do you think its Arcadey

            Originally posted by backbreaker
            Slam Zone

            You have the same feature in MVP this year, only its called "Hitters Eye" great choice of words however. 989, has been using guess pitch since forever, at it hasn't changed since its inception. Pretty much guess pitch type and location, is equivalent to sitting on a pitch. And, both games rely on just the attribute of the player visa vie ratings.

            2Kgames, has implemented this feature, and like all its games, allow the enduser dictate the result. Yes, the slo-Mo, and Joe Morgan statement adds to the complaint of Arcadey. But, Just think of the guess pitch for a walk off home run, based on the adrenaline pumping when you're pounding away on whatever button, to fill the meter for a game winning home run.

            I also believe that the meter/powerbar will reflect the power hitting attribute. What do I mean, well if you have a player, who's power hitting lets say is 40 out of 100, the meter will pop up at 40% filled, so he will have too work to get to the max of the meters power bar. Now if you have a guy like Barry Bonds, who's power hitting is lets say 90%, he doesn't have too work as hard to get the power bar to full capacity.

            We all know, that hitters sit on pitches, so thats all this is, now if it equals arcadey, call me pac man.

            To the Slam Zone detractors, I apologize. I just watched the developer interview(gamespot), and Slam Zone isn't even part of the guess pitch like I thought it would be. Pared you were right it not implemented like I thought. Its basically a pitcher hanging a pitch or making a mistake pitch over the plate. Its nothing like 989's or EA's, this just appears to be a random occurrence to add some excitement to the game. I was defending slam zone because I thought it was part of guess pitch, now that I know its not a part of guess pitch, I'm leaning more towards the arcade side but I will reserve judgement until I play the game.

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            • Glenn33
              MVP
              • Jul 2002
              • 2455

              #96
              Re: Slam Zone why do you think its Arcadey

              Originally posted by NoSkillz50
              like VIP, Cribs, and Celeb Profiles in ESPN NFL 2K, this is a gimmick.

              No need to crap on VIP. I liked and used that feature thank you very much.

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              • Glenn33
                MVP
                • Jul 2002
                • 2455

                #97
                Re: Slam Zone why do you think its Arcadey

                Originally posted by NoSkillz50
                like VIP, Cribs, and Celeb Profiles in ESPN NFL 2K, this is a gimmick.

                No need to crap on VIP. I liked and used that feature thank you very much.

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                • pfunk880
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 4452

                  #98
                  Re: Slam Zone why do you think its Arcadey

                  Originally posted by Glenn33
                  No need to crap on VIP. I liked and used that feature thank you very much.
                  Yeah, VIP was definitely not a gimmick.
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                  • pfunk880
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 4452

                    #99
                    Re: Slam Zone why do you think its Arcadey

                    Originally posted by Glenn33
                    No need to crap on VIP. I liked and used that feature thank you very much.
                    Yeah, VIP was definitely not a gimmick.
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                    • ComfortablyLomb
                      MVP
                      • Sep 2003
                      • 3548

                      #100
                      Re: Slam Zone why do you think its Arcadey

                      Superb job of missing the point and taking it in an entirely different direction.
                      Strawmen a plague upon the earth.

                      Maybe if he came up with a relevant argument people wouldn't dump all over him.

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                      • ComfortablyLomb
                        MVP
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 3548

                        #101
                        Re: Slam Zone why do you think its Arcadey

                        Superb job of missing the point and taking it in an entirely different direction.
                        Strawmen a plague upon the earth.

                        Maybe if he came up with a relevant argument people wouldn't dump all over him.

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                        • NoSkillz50
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 2267

                          #102
                          Re: Slam Zone why do you think its Arcadey

                          Originally posted by pfunk880
                          Yeah, VIP was definitely not a gimmick.
                          maybe not but it sure didn't work.

                          i played against my vip from online in which i was 32-2 and it played nothing like me at all. it didn't seem like it did anything. maybe it ran more to one side, big whoop! i think that was kind of a gimmick, it was so underdeveloped it looked like a giant gimmick to me.

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                          • NoSkillz50
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 2267

                            #103
                            Re: Slam Zone why do you think its Arcadey

                            Originally posted by pfunk880
                            Yeah, VIP was definitely not a gimmick.
                            maybe not but it sure didn't work.

                            i played against my vip from online in which i was 32-2 and it played nothing like me at all. it didn't seem like it did anything. maybe it ran more to one side, big whoop! i think that was kind of a gimmick, it was so underdeveloped it looked like a giant gimmick to me.

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                            • Pared
                              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 39337

                              #104
                              Re: Slam Zone why do you think its Arcadey

                              Originally posted by backbreaker
                              To the Slam Zone detractors, I apologize. I just watched the developer interview(gamespot), and Slam Zone isn't even part of the guess pitch like I thought it would be. Pared you were right it not implemented like I thought. Its basically a pitcher hanging a pitch or making a mistake pitch over the plate. Its nothing like 989's or EA's, this just appears to be a random occurrence to add some excitement to the game. I was defending slam zone because I thought it was part of guess pitch, now that I know its not a part of guess pitch, I'm leaning more towards the arcade side but I will reserve judgement until I play the game.
                              It wasn't so much a matter of being right or wrong, just it's implementation.

                              Like I said though, as long as you can turn it off, I don't mind at all. I just wish it wasn't the default for ranked online play. Ranking doesn't really mean much anyway... so I'm not completely upset.
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                                • Feb 2003
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                                #105
                                Re: Slam Zone why do you think its Arcadey

                                Originally posted by backbreaker
                                To the Slam Zone detractors, I apologize. I just watched the developer interview(gamespot), and Slam Zone isn't even part of the guess pitch like I thought it would be. Pared you were right it not implemented like I thought. Its basically a pitcher hanging a pitch or making a mistake pitch over the plate. Its nothing like 989's or EA's, this just appears to be a random occurrence to add some excitement to the game. I was defending slam zone because I thought it was part of guess pitch, now that I know its not a part of guess pitch, I'm leaning more towards the arcade side but I will reserve judgement until I play the game.
                                It wasn't so much a matter of being right or wrong, just it's implementation.

                                Like I said though, as long as you can turn it off, I don't mind at all. I just wish it wasn't the default for ranked online play. Ranking doesn't really mean much anyway... so I'm not completely upset.
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