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  • maddenman420
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    • Aug 2004
    • 253

    #61
    Re: Anyone else happy that Take2 has the MLB rights for the future?

    Originally posted by Pared
    ...that's a LOT of stuff to fix....

    Congrats, you have made a complete *** of yourself. Now back to the MVP forums ya go! Trolling isnt needed. MLB 2k5 is the best of the bunch and its a shame you cant see it.

    Mad

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    • Stevo
      Banned
      • May 2003
      • 517

      #62
      Re: Anyone else happy that Take2 has the MLB rights for the future?

      Personally, I don't like the deal. Exclusive lisenses aren't good for either company. (Unless were talking about money) EA got their 'small' payback when 2K bought the lisenses for MLB players, but this honestly (and I know people will argue this) wouldn't have happened if EA didn't buy the rights of the NFL. Do you notice that they bought 3rd party rights, so they wouldn't get rid of a game that had no harm on the other sports games? VC has been pretty 'classy' people since their first game. In interviews, sometimes they would say stuff like "The owner mode in Madden sounds like a cool idea." not ripping it a part like some of the EA producers try to in some of their interviews. EA has been bashing 2K5 this year since back in August when Madden outsold ESPN in 2 weeks rather than to ESPN's 1,000,000 copies sold in a month. (Better than they had done in all of 2K4) EA had a article saying something like this at the end, "And the competitions ESPN 2K5 couldn't even sell more than Madden with a 19.99 price tag in a month than Madden could in 2 weeks." They didn't have to mention anything of ESPN in that article, but they did, in a very unproffesional manor. Once that exclusive NFL deal was finished in December, VC couldn't take the sh*t anymore and had to push an MLB 3rd party deal. This is just my theory.



      Originally posted by quietcool72
      Boo Friggin Hoo- I like the 2K football games as much as the last guy- but remember- they had a chance to bid and EA outbid them. Yet you idiotic EA haters whine like fools and hate EA for doing nothing other than being a high bidder. Why don't you damn fools hate the NFL for selling an exclusive license? Why not boycott the NFL instead of being EA hating fools.

      I got news for you- Madden outsells ESPN every year- so the outcry would have been MUCH worse had the results been in 2k's favor.
      Quietcool, it seems everytime you pop up to these forums and you post, its in a bashing manor toward 2K sports. If you like 2K football games as much as the last guy... then the last guy must fu*king hate the game to death. They had a chance to bid against EA? No, not a chance... It looks really funny when you call some of us EA Haters! Because you're posts make you seem as you're a ***** of another company. (VC)

      Of course Madden outsells ESPN every year, its been around 16 YEARS! Everyone knows Madden by now. But what people don't know is the underdog ESPN, that was down on the sales charts in 2K4 10-1 to Madden and has now is only down 2-1 to Madden and scared EA. Scared EA that a 20 dollar game was (arguably) better than their game. How can the NFL refuse 300 million dollars? They can't. But if EA would have went a different direction. One where you would use that 300 MILLION dollars to make the game better... Just imagine. But no, eliminate the competition and make another new feature every year with some gameplay fixes is enough for them to outsell the competition now.

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      • Stevo
        Banned
        • May 2003
        • 517

        #63
        Re: Anyone else happy that Take2 has the MLB rights for the future?

        Personally, I don't like the deal. Exclusive lisenses aren't good for either company. (Unless were talking about money) EA got their 'small' payback when 2K bought the lisenses for MLB players, but this honestly (and I know people will argue this) wouldn't have happened if EA didn't buy the rights of the NFL. Do you notice that they bought 3rd party rights, so they wouldn't get rid of a game that had no harm on the other sports games? VC has been pretty 'classy' people since their first game. In interviews, sometimes they would say stuff like "The owner mode in Madden sounds like a cool idea." not ripping it a part like some of the EA producers try to in some of their interviews. EA has been bashing 2K5 this year since back in August when Madden outsold ESPN in 2 weeks rather than to ESPN's 1,000,000 copies sold in a month. (Better than they had done in all of 2K4) EA had a article saying something like this at the end, "And the competitions ESPN 2K5 couldn't even sell more than Madden with a 19.99 price tag in a month than Madden could in 2 weeks." They didn't have to mention anything of ESPN in that article, but they did, in a very unproffesional manor. Once that exclusive NFL deal was finished in December, VC couldn't take the sh*t anymore and had to push an MLB 3rd party deal. This is just my theory.



        Originally posted by quietcool72
        Boo Friggin Hoo- I like the 2K football games as much as the last guy- but remember- they had a chance to bid and EA outbid them. Yet you idiotic EA haters whine like fools and hate EA for doing nothing other than being a high bidder. Why don't you damn fools hate the NFL for selling an exclusive license? Why not boycott the NFL instead of being EA hating fools.

        I got news for you- Madden outsells ESPN every year- so the outcry would have been MUCH worse had the results been in 2k's favor.
        Quietcool, it seems everytime you pop up to these forums and you post, its in a bashing manor toward 2K sports. If you like 2K football games as much as the last guy... then the last guy must fu*king hate the game to death. They had a chance to bid against EA? No, not a chance... It looks really funny when you call some of us EA Haters! Because you're posts make you seem as you're a ***** of another company. (VC)

        Of course Madden outsells ESPN every year, its been around 16 YEARS! Everyone knows Madden by now. But what people don't know is the underdog ESPN, that was down on the sales charts in 2K4 10-1 to Madden and has now is only down 2-1 to Madden and scared EA. Scared EA that a 20 dollar game was (arguably) better than their game. How can the NFL refuse 300 million dollars? They can't. But if EA would have went a different direction. One where you would use that 300 MILLION dollars to make the game better... Just imagine. But no, eliminate the competition and make another new feature every year with some gameplay fixes is enough for them to outsell the competition now.

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        • Pared
          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
          • Feb 2003
          • 39337

          #64
          Re: Anyone else happy that Take2 has the MLB rights for the future?

          Originally posted by maddenman420
          Congrats, you have made a complete *** of yourself. Now back to the MVP forums ya go! Trolling isnt needed. MLB 2k5 is the best of the bunch and its a shame you cant see it.

          Mad
          Trolling? Coming from you, that doesn't mean much.
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          • Pared
            Legen - WAIT FOR IT
            • Feb 2003
            • 39337

            #65
            Re: Anyone else happy that Take2 has the MLB rights for the future?

            Originally posted by maddenman420
            Congrats, you have made a complete *** of yourself. Now back to the MVP forums ya go! Trolling isnt needed. MLB 2k5 is the best of the bunch and its a shame you cant see it.

            Mad
            Trolling? Coming from you, that doesn't mean much.
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            • bigfnjoe96
              Hall Of Fame
              • Feb 2004
              • 11410

              #66
              Re: Anyone else happy that Take2 has the MLB rights for the future?

              I'm happy that 2k has the MLB license. I think this years title is great. I tweaked the sliders & after 15 games have found a set that give me some realistic stats. When you play a game where there's 2 robbed HR's, an in the gap diving catch to stop the start of a rally in the 9th & lose by getting throw out @ home how can you not love this game.
              Last edited by bigfnjoe96; 02-25-2005, 05:22 PM.

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              • bigfnjoe96
                Hall Of Fame
                • Feb 2004
                • 11410

                #67
                Re: Anyone else happy that Take2 has the MLB rights for the future?

                I'm happy that 2k has the MLB license. I think this years title is great. I tweaked the sliders & after 15 games have found a set that give me some realistic stats. When you play a game where there's 2 robbed HR's, an in the gap diving catch to stop the start of a rally in the 9th & lose by getting throw out @ home how can you not love this game.

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                • p2xgamers
                  All Star
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 4735

                  #68
                  Re: Anyone else happy that Take2 has the MLB rights for the future?

                  Originally posted by Ltrain44
                  While I hate both company's for getting rights for the different leagues I think MLB 2k6 can be spectacular next year.

                  They just need to redo the ball physics the ball looks like its 100lbs after it hits off the bat.

                  Redo all the animations or at least the fielding, throwing and swinging ones. Heh, wait that is about all of them.

                  Fix the look of the bats and gloves, they look horrible and it really irritates me.

                  Continue to build on the franchise mode and hopefully we can play minor league games.

                  The pitching is great, I love the kzone, the batting is ok I just do not like the 2 button swing option.

                  If they can get this and other stuff fixed mlb 2k6 looks like it could be a legend.
                  2 of the above actually matter to me. (fixing the fielding animations and play minor league games) But that really isn't much...
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                  • p2xgamers
                    All Star
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 4735

                    #69
                    Re: Anyone else happy that Take2 has the MLB rights for the future?

                    Originally posted by Ltrain44
                    While I hate both company's for getting rights for the different leagues I think MLB 2k6 can be spectacular next year.

                    They just need to redo the ball physics the ball looks like its 100lbs after it hits off the bat.

                    Redo all the animations or at least the fielding, throwing and swinging ones. Heh, wait that is about all of them.

                    Fix the look of the bats and gloves, they look horrible and it really irritates me.

                    Continue to build on the franchise mode and hopefully we can play minor league games.

                    The pitching is great, I love the kzone, the batting is ok I just do not like the 2 button swing option.

                    If they can get this and other stuff fixed mlb 2k6 looks like it could be a legend.
                    2 of the above actually matter to me. (fixing the fielding animations and play minor league games) But that really isn't much...
                    Lifelong Bengals and Buckeyes fan...yeah...

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                    • quietcool72
                      Pro
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 995

                      #70
                      Re: Anyone else happy that Take2 has the MLB rights for the future?

                      Originally posted by Pared
                      Whoa... dude, chill. No need to attack him like that...
                      Yeah, you are right Pared, I shouldn't have come at him like that. (Love your sliders by the way)

                      Sorry guy..

                      I'm just sick and tired of everybody who hates EA like they ran over their family dog... and for WHAT? Because they outbid Sega/T2/VC?

                      VC had a chance to pony-up to the table. Its the NFL that sold the deal this way. (Yet you don't see people on this forum planning to boycott NFL games though..)

                      But- back to baseball- at least with the EA/NFL deal, every system will get to have a licensed NFL game. However, the T2/MLB deal may have just killed hardball games for the PC, because as of this moment, there's no plays for VC/T2 to port over to PC (they ignore it)

                      ..yet they hold the 3rd party exclusive rights for a platform they don't produce games for???

                      I dislike the "exclusivity" as much as the next guy. But lets be realistic. Although I can't stand VC/Kush's baseball game, I understand it was a business decision, and a good one for VC/Kush.
                      Last edited by quietcool72; 02-26-2005, 09:53 AM.

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                      • quietcool72
                        Pro
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 995

                        #71
                        Re: Anyone else happy that Take2 has the MLB rights for the future?

                        Originally posted by Pared
                        Whoa... dude, chill. No need to attack him like that...
                        Yeah, you are right Pared, I shouldn't have come at him like that. (Love your sliders by the way)

                        Sorry guy..

                        I'm just sick and tired of everybody who hates EA like they ran over their family dog... and for WHAT? Because they outbid Sega/T2/VC?

                        VC had a chance to pony-up to the table. Its the NFL that sold the deal this way. (Yet you don't see people on this forum planning to boycott NFL games though..)

                        But- back to baseball- at least with the EA/NFL deal, every system will get to have a licensed NFL game. However, the T2/MLB deal may have just killed hardball games for the PC, because as of this moment, there's no plays for VC/T2 to port over to PC (they ignore it)

                        ..yet they hold the 3rd party exclusive rights for a platform they don't produce games for???

                        I dislike the "exclusivity" as much as the next guy. But lets be realistic. Although I can't stand VC/Kush's baseball game, I understand it was a business decision, and a good one for VC/Kush.

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                        • quietcool72
                          Pro
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 995

                          #72
                          Re: Anyone else happy that Take2 has the MLB rights for the future?

                          Originally posted by Stevo
                          Personally, I don't like the deal. Exclusive lisenses aren't good for either company. (Unless were talking about money) EA got their 'small' payback when 2K bought the lisenses for MLB players, but this honestly (and I know people will argue this) wouldn't have happened if EA didn't buy the rights of the NFL. Do you notice that they bought 3rd party rights, so they wouldn't get rid of a game that had no harm on the other sports games? VC has been pretty 'classy' people since their first game. In interviews, sometimes they would say stuff like "The owner mode in Madden sounds like a cool idea." not ripping it a part like some of the EA producers try to in some of their interviews. EA has been bashing 2K5 this year since back in August when Madden outsold ESPN in 2 weeks rather than to ESPN's 1,000,000 copies sold in a month. (Better than they had done in all of 2K4) EA had a article saying something like this at the end, "And the competitions ESPN 2K5 couldn't even sell more than Madden with a 19.99 price tag in a month than Madden could in 2 weeks." They didn't have to mention anything of ESPN in that article, but they did, in a very unproffesional manor. Once that exclusive NFL deal was finished in December, VC couldn't take the sh*t anymore and had to push an MLB 3rd party deal. This is just my theory.





                          Quietcool, it seems everytime you pop up to these forums and you post, its in a bashing manor toward 2K sports. If you like 2K football games as much as the last guy... then the last guy must fu*king hate the game to death. They had a chance to bid against EA? No, not a chance... It looks really funny when you call some of us EA Haters! Because you're posts make you seem as you're a ***** of another company. (VC)

                          Of course Madden outsells ESPN every year, its been around 16 YEARS! Everyone knows Madden by now. But what people don't know is the underdog ESPN, that was down on the sales charts in 2K4 10-1 to Madden and has now is only down 2-1 to Madden and scared EA. Scared EA that a 20 dollar game was (arguably) better than their game. How can the NFL refuse 300 million dollars? They can't. But if EA would have went a different direction. One where you would use that 300 MILLION dollars to make the game better... Just imagine. But no, eliminate the competition and make another new feature every year with some gameplay fixes is enough for them to outsell the competition now.
                          Oh, so EA - because they have more money than Sega VC, is the bad guy in the NFL deal? Wake up, man. You wanna hate someone, hate the NFL and the NFL PA for pushing this cash-cow of a deal because this was a non-TV contract renewal year and they saw some loot they could get.

                          Can you say "NFL's FAULT". ..... I knew you could.

                          But no- what floors me is you guys who hate EA like they stole your girlfriend, insulted your mother, and made road-pizza out of your family pet. THE NFL MADE THIS DEAL. EA was just the high-bidder. Sue them- grow up.

                          Why not boycott watching NFL games next season since some of you are so mad? OH, I know, its easier and more fun to irrationally hate EA...- and voice that... over...and over.....and over....

                          I am a fan of the 2K series- ever since "2K" on dreamcast. But I am critical of it for an alarming number of gameplay bugs- easily found ones- that should never have shipped. Broken Spy command, penalty bugs (ones that have been there for 3 years- un-touched)- and you guys know all the rest...

                          Then there's the NBA game with the AI refusing to call timeouts in franchise play. (Whether they need to or not)...

                          And now there's MLB 2K, with its ALARMING number of passed balls. I was down 0-2 with the Yankees last night against the BoSox in the 9th. My last at bat, and Sierra got on first to lead off the inning.

                          Shilling through THREE wild pitches in the inning to let runners advance. The go ahead score was even run from 3rd to home on a wild pitch. This was the first complete game I played (on ALL Star.) Kinda alarming. I'm surfing here this AM looking for how (if at all) anyone has fixed it with sliders yet.

                          But that's my point... I WANT VC's games to do well. Heck, they show TONS of promise, especially with the broadcast stuff. But someone also needs to let Chau and Atwood know that "hey, you guys as producers really need to polish this stuff up pre-release, because its not helping you against EA when you have these many easily detected bugs right out of the gate."

                          But that is quickly becoming the "M.O." of VC's games (I realize KUSH was involved in the MLB game too...)

                          Its a shame. I'm getting sick of it. What really bothers me about VC's games is that they are SO DARN CLOSE to being "complete world beaters".. only to have stuff like "Spy" broken (double teams were broken the year before, so I guess we can expect one broken defensive command per year?), gimme routes, no AI timeouts in NBA seasons, way too many passed balls...etc.

                          I'm to the point where I think VC should do something in conjunction with this site to playtest their games. Its come to that, and I have no trust in their playtesters.

                          But again.. I would love to see VC improve the games they make. Same with EA.

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                          • quietcool72
                            Pro
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 995

                            #73
                            Re: Anyone else happy that Take2 has the MLB rights for the future?

                            Originally posted by Stevo
                            Personally, I don't like the deal. Exclusive lisenses aren't good for either company. (Unless were talking about money) EA got their 'small' payback when 2K bought the lisenses for MLB players, but this honestly (and I know people will argue this) wouldn't have happened if EA didn't buy the rights of the NFL. Do you notice that they bought 3rd party rights, so they wouldn't get rid of a game that had no harm on the other sports games? VC has been pretty 'classy' people since their first game. In interviews, sometimes they would say stuff like "The owner mode in Madden sounds like a cool idea." not ripping it a part like some of the EA producers try to in some of their interviews. EA has been bashing 2K5 this year since back in August when Madden outsold ESPN in 2 weeks rather than to ESPN's 1,000,000 copies sold in a month. (Better than they had done in all of 2K4) EA had a article saying something like this at the end, "And the competitions ESPN 2K5 couldn't even sell more than Madden with a 19.99 price tag in a month than Madden could in 2 weeks." They didn't have to mention anything of ESPN in that article, but they did, in a very unproffesional manor. Once that exclusive NFL deal was finished in December, VC couldn't take the sh*t anymore and had to push an MLB 3rd party deal. This is just my theory.





                            Quietcool, it seems everytime you pop up to these forums and you post, its in a bashing manor toward 2K sports. If you like 2K football games as much as the last guy... then the last guy must fu*king hate the game to death. They had a chance to bid against EA? No, not a chance... It looks really funny when you call some of us EA Haters! Because you're posts make you seem as you're a ***** of another company. (VC)

                            Of course Madden outsells ESPN every year, its been around 16 YEARS! Everyone knows Madden by now. But what people don't know is the underdog ESPN, that was down on the sales charts in 2K4 10-1 to Madden and has now is only down 2-1 to Madden and scared EA. Scared EA that a 20 dollar game was (arguably) better than their game. How can the NFL refuse 300 million dollars? They can't. But if EA would have went a different direction. One where you would use that 300 MILLION dollars to make the game better... Just imagine. But no, eliminate the competition and make another new feature every year with some gameplay fixes is enough for them to outsell the competition now.
                            Oh, so EA - because they have more money than Sega VC, is the bad guy in the NFL deal? Wake up, man. You wanna hate someone, hate the NFL and the NFL PA for pushing this cash-cow of a deal because this was a non-TV contract renewal year and they saw some loot they could get.

                            Can you say "NFL's FAULT". ..... I knew you could.

                            But no- what floors me is you guys who hate EA like they stole your girlfriend, insulted your mother, and made road-pizza out of your family pet. THE NFL MADE THIS DEAL. EA was just the high-bidder. Sue them- grow up.

                            Why not boycott watching NFL games next season since some of you are so mad? OH, I know, its easier and more fun to irrationally hate EA...- and voice that... over...and over.....and over....

                            I am a fan of the 2K series- ever since "2K" on dreamcast. But I am critical of it for an alarming number of gameplay bugs- easily found ones- that should never have shipped. Broken Spy command, penalty bugs (ones that have been there for 3 years- un-touched)- and you guys know all the rest...

                            Then there's the NBA game with the AI refusing to call timeouts in franchise play. (Whether they need to or not)...

                            And now there's MLB 2K, with its ALARMING number of passed balls. I was down 0-2 with the Yankees last night against the BoSox in the 9th. My last at bat, and Sierra got on first to lead off the inning.

                            Shilling through THREE wild pitches in the inning to let runners advance. The go ahead score was even run from 3rd to home on a wild pitch. This was the first complete game I played (on ALL Star.) Kinda alarming. I'm surfing here this AM looking for how (if at all) anyone has fixed it with sliders yet.

                            But that's my point... I WANT VC's games to do well. Heck, they show TONS of promise, especially with the broadcast stuff. But someone also needs to let Chau and Atwood know that "hey, you guys as producers really need to polish this stuff up pre-release, because its not helping you against EA when you have these many easily detected bugs right out of the gate."

                            But that is quickly becoming the "M.O." of VC's games (I realize KUSH was involved in the MLB game too...)

                            Its a shame. I'm getting sick of it. What really bothers me about VC's games is that they are SO DARN CLOSE to being "complete world beaters".. only to have stuff like "Spy" broken (double teams were broken the year before, so I guess we can expect one broken defensive command per year?), gimme routes, no AI timeouts in NBA seasons, way too many passed balls...etc.

                            I'm to the point where I think VC should do something in conjunction with this site to playtest their games. Its come to that, and I have no trust in their playtesters.

                            But again.. I would love to see VC improve the games they make. Same with EA.

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                            • Stevo
                              Banned
                              • May 2003
                              • 517

                              #74
                              Re: Anyone else happy that Take2 has the MLB rights for the future?

                              Good post quietcool, I agree with most of it now. I really didn't know that the NFL pushed the deal, I thought it was EA pushing it. Maybe it wasn't EA's fault but the competition between the two companies were good. This was a great year of sports gaming. Until December when the deal struck... It sucks that the NFL had to push the deal.

                              Just a friendly question, but would you like 2K games more than EA's games if they were more polished?
                              Because me personally, I know ESPN NFL is not perfect. It has more bugs than Madden I bet, but I like it more because it plays better in my opinion. The bugs don't pop up very often, and they are not gamekillers for me at all. I just think ESPN NFL plays more of an exciting and simulation style game to me.

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                              • Stevo
                                Banned
                                • May 2003
                                • 517

                                #75
                                Re: Anyone else happy that Take2 has the MLB rights for the future?

                                Good post quietcool, I agree with most of it now. I really didn't know that the NFL pushed the deal, I thought it was EA pushing it. Maybe it wasn't EA's fault but the competition between the two companies were good. This was a great year of sports gaming. Until December when the deal struck... It sucks that the NFL had to push the deal.

                                Just a friendly question, but would you like 2K games more than EA's games if they were more polished?
                                Because me personally, I know ESPN NFL is not perfect. It has more bugs than Madden I bet, but I like it more because it plays better in my opinion. The bugs don't pop up very often, and they are not gamekillers for me at all. I just think ESPN NFL plays more of an exciting and simulation style game to me.

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