PS3 CPU Vs. CPU Sliders

[gtm]

Re: PS3 CPU Vs. CPU Sliders

JTyner,

In about a week or so, I'll be purchasing the game (hopefully). However, I only have a ps2. Could I use/test these as well?

mman,
A salute and thank you for serving in the military. A few of my uncles, great uncles, grandfathers, etc. also served. It might go back as far as WWI, I think.

Thank you for the kind words. My dad and my middle brother also served in the Navy.

[gtm]

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JT, just want to let u know that i'm back on. Made some changes and am playing right now.

[gtm]

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JT, just finished my first game with my edits. It was a low scoring affair but a pitchers duel none the less. I will test these for 10 season mode games, edits permitting.

Game 1

Mets(me) lost to the cardinals 1-0.

Mets: 0-6-0
Cards: 1-3-0

Mets: 6 Singles, 0 Doubles, 0 Triple, 0 HR
Cards: 3 Singles, 0 Doubles, 0 Triple, 0 HR

Mets: (Glavine) 8.0 innings, 3 Hits, 8 Strikeouts, 109 pitches, 47 B, 62 S.
4 Walks, 9 Strikeouts.

Cards: (Carpenter) 8.0 innings, 5 Hits, 8 strikeouts, 97 pitches, 37 B, 60 S.
0 Walks, 8 Strikeouts.

Cards: (Isringhausen) 1.0 inning, 1 Hit, 1 Strikeout.

Mets: 0 SB
Cards: 0 SB

[JTyner]

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MM,

Boxscore looks good.....looking forward o see how it progresses and what tweaks ya made

[gtm]

Re: PS3 CPU Vs. CPU Sliders

MM,

Boxscore looks good.....looking forward o see how it progresses and what tweaks ya made

You know i will fill u in my friend. What my goal is to get the starters to pitch deeper in the game and to work on walks and strikeouts like we had talked about. I believe the first game did that. I'm testing in season mode so i can see how each of the pitchers games play out with these changes.

[gtm]

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Game 2

Mets(me) beat the cardinals 2-1.

Mets: 2-9-0
Cards: 1-7-0

Mets: 7 Singles, 2 Doubles, 0 Triple, 0 HR
Cards: 7 Singles, 0 Doubles, 0 Triple, 0 HR

Mets: (Martinez) 7.0 innings, 7 Hits, 5 Strikeouts, 105 pitches, 48 B, 57 S.
4 Walks, 5 Strikeouts.

Mets: (Feliciano) 1.0 inning, 1 Walk
Mets: (Wagner) 1.0 inning, 2 Strikeouts, Save

Cards: (Wells) 7.0 innings, 7 Hits, 5 strikeouts, 90 pitches, 32 B, 58 S.
1 Walk, 5 Strikeouts.

Cards: (Rincon) 2.0 innings, 2 Hits.

Mets: 2 SB
Cards: 1 SB

[gtm]

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Game 3

Mets(me) lost to the cardinals 5-4.

Mets: 4-13-0
Cards: 5-13-2

Mets: 12 Singles, 1 Double, 0 Triple, 0 HR
Cards: 12 Singles, 0 Doubles, 0 Triple, 1 HR

Mets: (Hernandez) 6.0 innings, 8 Hits, 9 Strikeouts, 100 pitches, 40 B, 60 S.
4 Walks, 5 Strikeouts.

Mets: (Sanchez) 2.0 innings, 5 Hits, 1 Walk, 1 Strikeout, 2 ER


Cards: (Reyes) 7.1 innings, 9 Hits, 3 strikeouts, 87 pitches, 30 B, 57 S.
1 Walk, 5 Strikeouts.

Cards: (Flores) 0.0 innings, 1 Walk.
Cards: (Looper) 0.1 innings, 1 Hit
Cards: (Rincon) 0.1 innings, 1 Strikeout
Cards: (Isringhausen) 1.0 inning, 3 Hits, 1 Walk, 1 ER

Mets: 2 SB
Cards: 0 SB

[ericjwm]

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JT, I've tried about 4 games with your slider settings & it's pretty great so far! There are so many different sliders in this game that I have to commend you on coming up with a fairly accurate setting so quickly. The only thing I adjusted from yours is AI runner agression, which I moved back down to 85. I was seeing too many singles trying to be stretched into doubles at 90. There might be a few too many strikeouts, but I haven't seen enough games to make an accurate judgement yet. Also want to make sure that batters are pulling the ball enough & not going the other way too much.

[ericjwm]

Re: PS3 CPU Vs. CPU Sliders

Game 3

Mets(me) lost to the cardinals 5-4.

Mets: 4-13-0
Cards: 5-13-2

Mets: 12 Singles, 1 Double, 0 Triple, 0 HR
Cards: 12 Singles, 0 Doubles, 0 Triple, 1 HR

Mets: (Hernandez) 6.0 innings, 8 Hits, 9 Strikeouts, 100 pitches, 40 B, 60 S.
4 Walks, 5 Strikeouts.

Mets: (Sanchez) 2.0 innings, 5 Hits, 1 Walk, 1 Strikeout, 2 ER


Cards: (Reyes) 7.1 innings, 9 Hits, 3 strikeouts, 87 pitches, 30 B, 57 S.
1 Walk, 5 Strikeouts.

Cards: (Flores) 0.0 innings, 1 Walk.
Cards: (Looper) 0.1 innings, 1 Hit
Cards: (Rincon) 0.1 innings, 1 Strikeout
Cards: (Isringhausen) 1.0 inning, 3 Hits, 1 Walk, 1 ER

Mets: 2 SB
Cards: 0 SB

Man, those hit totals are looking a little too high now. Teams should rarely have more than 6 hits above their run total.

Maybe lowering contact & increasing power would give you more extra base hits as well.

[JTyner]

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MM,

The one observation I have with the boxscores is that the mets (a POWERHOUSE lineup) thru 3 games have only 3 extra base hits and no homeruns.

What ya think?

Also.....I wonder how much of a difference the fact that I am on a PS3 and your on an XBox makes in the gameplay and slider tweaks?

hmmmmm.....

I was sick yesterday so chose to sleep instead of test.....but HOPE to test somemore tonight......I am debating moving the fatigue slider one to the right because I feel the pitchers may not be fatiguing enuff (that is also why I ask about the console slider difference because you felt they were fatiguing too quickly?)

Anyways...keep a testing guys.....the game really is cool!

[gtm]

Re: PS3 CPU Vs. CPU Sliders

MM,

The one observation I have with the boxscores is that the mets (a POWERHOUSE lineup) thru 3 games have only 3 extra base hits and no homeruns.

What ya think?

Also.....I wonder how much of a difference the fact that I am on a PS3 and your on an XBox makes in the gameplay and slider tweaks?

hmmmmm.....

I was sick yesterday so chose to sleep instead of test.....but HOPE to test somemore tonight......I am debating moving the fatigue slider one to the right because I feel the pitchers may not be fatiguing enuff (that is also why I ask about the console slider difference because you felt they were fatiguing too quickly?)

Anyways...keep a testing guys.....the game really is cool!

JT, sorry to hear that you were sick. Get well. Anyway, i stopped in the middle of my 4th game yesterday. Sliders were not panning out. I was on all day and i started getting frustrated so will try again today. Maybe starting fresh.

[JTyner]

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Hi All.....

Since I cant edit the main sliders I will add some current tweaks here.....these are changes only....

Player Options:
AI General Options:
AI Infield Errors: 75
AI Sacrifice Bunt: 50
AI Steal 2nd: 65


AI Pitching Options:
AI Fatigue: 35

I also turned off inning hilights and player hilights which fixes the time progression.

Any thoughts or ideas let me know!

[ericjwm]

Re: PS3 CPU Vs. CPU Sliders

Hi All.....

Since I cant edit the main sliders I will add some current tweaks here.....these are changes only....

Player Options:
AI General Options:
AI Infield Errors: 75
AI Sacrifice Bunt: 50
AI Steal 2nd: 65


AI Pitching Options:
AI Fatigue: 35

I also turned off inning hilights and player hilights which fixes the time progression.

Any thoughts or ideas let me know!

Thanx for the update!
There are so many sliders in this game that its hard to know what to change to get the result you're looking for. I'd like to get it so that strikeout pitchers such as Santana & Smoltz can rack up 12+ K's. What would you suggest changing, without resulting in too many strikeouts for all pitchers?
I'm also seeing too many batters getting hit by pitches(sometimes like 5 or 6 a game). I had to turn off ejections just to keep starters in past the 6th inning.

Wish I could be more helpful with the tweaking, but I'm use to The Show's limited sliders, lol.

[JTyner]

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Hi Eric,


Completely stumped on both!

As far as the HBP, I see some....not everygame.....but not sure which slider would change that....it might be an AI thing that doesnt get affected by a slider?

With k's....something to keep an eye on is this I think.....

Johan Santana had 245 K's last year in 34 starts--

He hit 10 or more k's only 9 of those 34 games:

10 in 3 games
11 in 3 games
12 in 2 games
13 in 1 game


so if hes on your team.....he houldnt be hitting double figures each game (probably every 4th or 5th game on an average?)....and if your facing him in a season ou may/maynot see him hit double figures (according to the average of course)

He averaged 9.44 k's per game.......do you feel he is averaging that at this point?



With this all in mind.....Im debating moving the overall strike amount by the pitcher up.....while the k/bb ratio SEEMS pretty good so far for me....I had a game yesterday with total of almost 20 walks......while possibly just an anomoly......something I want to keep my eye on!

[ericjwm]

Re: PS3 CPU Vs. CPU Sliders

Hi Eric,


Completely stumped on both!

As far as the HBP, I see some....not everygame.....but not sure which slider would change that....it might be an AI thing that doesnt get affected by a slider?

With k's....something to keep an eye on is this I think.....

Johan Santana had 245 K's last year in 34 starts--

He hit 10 or more k's only 9 of those 34 games:

10 in 3 games
11 in 3 games
12 in 2 games
13 in 1 game


so if hes on your team.....he houldnt be hitting double figures each game (probably every 4th or 5th game on an average?)....and if your facing him in a season ou may/maynot see him hit double figures (according to the average of course)

He averaged 9.44 k's per game.......do you feel he is averaging that at this point?



With this all in mind.....Im debating moving the overall strike amount by the pitcher up.....while the k/bb ratio SEEMS pretty good so far for me....I had a game yesterday with total of almost 20 walks......while possibly just an anomoly......something I want to keep my eye on!

Thats interesting, I would of thought Santana had at least half his starts with 10 or more K's. In this game I've watched like 4 starts with Santana & he could never rack up more than 5 to 6 K's.(using your original slider set)

About moving the overall strikes thrown, I've moved that up to 40. I've also moved take a ball overall, take ball when ahead & take a ball when behind all down one notch. I've seen about 4 games with this settings & it seems to improve the strikeout numbers somewhat, while still retaining a realistic number of walks. I'll have to observe a few more games though before I can tell for sure. Those are the 3 particular sets (Pitchers throwing strikes, batters taking balls & batters taking strikes) that I think we should concentrate on, as we might come up with perfection eventually..... then again maybe not.

Oh, I also moved AI runner aggression down to 65, AI meat pitch up to 30, AI corner down to 70 & AI change speed down to 90.
Do you think the AI pitcher difficulty & AI effectiveness mod should be moved up any?


P.S. Hope you don't give up on this game due the the walk/ERA glitch. I know it's ridiculous they let this slip, but it happans all too often in sports games unfortunately. This is a great game & I'll definitely enjoy it till the PS3 version of The Show hits.... then it's likely all Sony's game from there on.