mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

[Braves Fan 21]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

Agree with what Wudl said, I just like talking ball and hearing what other people think, I live in Canada so I never get to have intelligent baseball conversations with anyone so on here it's fun to be nerdy and talk ball.

I think with foul balls it's because it all comes down to timing. Most pitches you'll swing at can be put into play but depending on the pitch and location if you're slightly early or late it's probably going to go foul. For example I hit with the stick and I never use the contact swing like they say you should to fight off pitches with 2 strikes, I just swing way early on purpose so I know it will go foul. I also find that the better I am hitting the less balls I hit foul, basically hitting a lot of foul balls means you're timing is off(I know you can also miss squaring up the ball but in the game it's all timing the bat just goes where it's gonna go you don't control it), when I'm hitting well I only hit like 5-10 balls foul per game, when I'm off my game hitting I'm fouling off anywhere from 20-40. I play with the swing analyzer always on so I know how "off" I am when I swing, so usually after 1 or 2 fouls the next 1 i'll put in play because I can judge where I was wrong timing wise(early or late and by how much) on the pitches I hit foul. You should try hitting with the swing analyzer on if you're not already, I find it really helps you time out the pitchers pitch, I only started playing with it on 2 weeks ago but it makes hitting so much easier in terms of timing out the pitchers pitches I honestly owe at least half my hits to the swing analyzer.

[wudl83]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

I play with classic hitting, I hate the analog stick hitting. With classic hitting you can not decide how you hit, if it is defensive, for contact, for power. Depends on how you hit the ball, what's the count, etc.

To be honest I talked mainly about cpu foul balls.

LOL, in my last game I saw an animation I haven't seen before. Fly ball to center field, AI CF dives, but is too late, ball hops behind him, CF stands up and slips and falls again.

[mkharsh33]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

I'm officially loving the 95 cpu batting contact and 80 power. Balls are sprayed all over the place, and it makes me really give a LOT of thought to my location. The new camera angle (directly behind the pitcher) really gives a feel for a television broadcast.

I've seen realistic strikeout numbers and have seen almost every situation possible.

Won a fun game last night: Mariners (cpu) at Padres (me). Ended up winning 2-1. I trailed 1-0 in the first inning on a triple and RBI single given up by Stults. I got a hit by Amarista, who beat the pitcher covering the bag on a SLOOOOOW roller to 1B. Bunted him over and then an RBI single scored him in the bottom of the 3rd. Went back and forth, and three times I had a runner on 3B with 2 outs and couldn't get the big hit. Stults got into trouble in the 7th by giving up a single, stolen base and then a hit to put runners on 2nd and 3rd with no outs. Brought Cory Burns in relief and walked the first batter faced. Then got a SOFT liner hit to SS that I caught and got the double play at 2nd as the runner was already running. Got a flyout to end the inning, so based loaded, no out and no harm done. Took care of business in the bottom of the 9th with an RBI single with the bases loaded (drew two walks).

Both the cpu and I got 9 hits, no errors, and I struck out 8 batters with my pitchers and the cpu struck me out 6 times. Very fun stuff!!

[Braves Fan 21]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

I tried the camera angle you suggested Wudl, I didn't find it made a difference control wise but I'm gonna stick with the angle anyway because it looks a lot better.

I only use the stick because I kept killing my friends and they kept ragging on me for using the button so I switched just to show them that I could kill them with the stick to, I only ever use the power swing anyway with the stick the contact and defensive ones are useless in my opinion. I actually switch back and forth between stick and button all the time the only difference is you have to start your swing ever so slightly earlier with the stick(pitch speed 95 button is about the same as 90 stick).

I'll try contact 95, I tried moving power up but then they just destroy everything Bonds style.

[mkharsh33]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

Yeah...I believe cpu power at 80 is perfect.

[C_Bailey24]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

Is power swing the only way to hit home runs? I've only hit one in about twenty games played with these sliders. New to the game, btw

[mkharsh33]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

These are for "classic" hitting. You do not use the swing stick, but rather just press the A button (360). The idea is about timing, pitch type, location, and player ratings. This isn't for everyone, but personally I LOVE it... I don't like swing sting hitting, but if you do I do NOT know how these sliders translate into that and you might consider a different set.

[C_Bailey24]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

These are for "classic" hitting. You do not use the swing stick, but rather just press the A button (360). The idea is about timing, pitch type, location, and player ratings. This isn't for everyone, but personally I LOVE it... I don't like swing sting hitting, but if you do I do NOT know how these sliders translate into that and you might consider a different set.

I've read most of this thread and there are a few people posting that use stick hitting and said there's not a difference. Using the stick is still about timing, pitch location and ratings, is it not? I don't use the power swing which is why i asked the question. Also was just looking for some general tips but your responses always seem to be " these sliders are not for you".

[mkharsh33]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

I answered your question based solely upon what I KNOW. What I know is that I have NEVER used the hit stick to play this game. Sorry I'm not more help to you, but you're simply asking me something I've never tried or tested, and never will. If that comes across a bit crass, my apologies, but if you want me to make something up just to appease you, reply back and I'll conjure something up.

[wudl83]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

I tried the camera angle you suggested Wudl, I didn't find it made a difference control wise but I'm gonna stick with the angle anyway because it looks a lot better.

Okay, at least it looks better.

Is power swing the only way to hit home runs? I've only hit one in about twenty games played with these sliders. New to the game, btw

No, it is not the only way. When you have trouble hitting homeruns with these sliders then bump up human power slider.
At first I was not able to hit homeruns with classic hitting and this relatively low power slider but when you keep on playing you learn it. But these sliders are definately not for beginners. It took me a good amount of time to get used to the sliders and I lowered/raised the different sliders bit by bit, but now I can enjoy them.
For example I was able to hit a homerun with Joaquin Arias against a RHP, in my roster Arias has 64 contact and 37 power vs RHP. I simply crushed a fastball that was in the middle of the plate and was hitting the button at the right time.

I've read most of this thread and there are a few people posting that use stick hitting and said there's not a difference. Using the stick is still about timing, pitch location and ratings, is it not? I don't use the power swing which is why i asked the question. Also was just looking for some general tips but your responses always seem to be " these sliders are not for you".

The difference between stick hitting and button hitting is that with stick hitting you more or less can control how hard (regarding the power of your batter) you hit the pitch, with button hitting you can't.
But when you do not use the power swing option then I honestly do not see any sense in using the stick whatsoever. The stick hitting only makes a difference IMHO when you use the power swing option.
Everything regarding hitting is about timing, pitch type, pitch location and ratings.

[StLfan72]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

my biggest problem with cpu at 95 contact is all the opposing pitchers driving the ball. I mix it up but i either walk guys or they rake. I' m trying 90 out now and its looking promising so far. I think all your other settings are great though, mk!

[mkharsh33]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

At 95 you're forced to pitch outside the zone.

One thing I noticed the other day: my catcher called for a 2 seam fastball inside. He set himself up inside. I threw it low and away, and he reached out and made the catch and framed it and I struck a power bat out. It was almost like he was sensing the pitch where the catcher wanted it and just stood there frozen.

It's subtle things like this that make this game come to life. 90 is good - but trust me, 95 is better. It will make you really think like a pitcher regarding who's batting. Walks may haunt, but better to walk a guy than give up a 3 run dinger.

[StLfan72]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

granted, it was a small sample size. Just got frustated seeing the Shaun Marcum rope 2 doubles into the gap on 2 nasty Wainwright pitches in one game. Love the challenge of this latest set though! You really have to earn those victories, as it should be.

[mkharsh33]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

Thanks! The hard part is being patient at the plate. But when you do, you get rewarded. The best way for hitting to improve is just keep taking pitches in some practice games - and face different kinds of pitches.

RA Dickey has a killer knuckleball (in my rosters). But you've also got guys who throw a lot of slow junk and then guys that throw 98 mph. Seeing different types of pitches really helps you gain a feel for the strike zone.

In a game the other night I drew 4 walks - it's hard for me to be patient, you feel a strong sense of achievement when you play the game the right way.

[Braves Fan 21]

Re: mkharsh33 MLB 2K12 Sliders: Classic Hitting / Total Control Pitching

Using the hit stick you only really need the power swing anway. I never use anything but power swing, if I want to fight a ball off instead of using contact I just swing way early so it goes foul, in my opinion this works a lot better than using contact. Really if you're not using power swing all the time with the hit stick there is no point in using the hit stick, the contact swing just drains power, over the course of 100 contact swings and the same amount power swings you might get an extra 4 or 5 singles using contact but you'll lose extra base hits, essentially with contact your AVG. will be higher but you're OPS will be much lower and OPS is a lot more important to scoring runs than AVG.

The sliders translate fine regardless of button or stick, I've used both button and stick at least 40% of my total at bats the last 2 years and the only difference is you have to start your swing ever so slighty sooner with the stick(the stick takes slightly longer to push forward than it takes to press down on the button again it's an exceptionally minute difference and really makes no difference in terms of skill level or gameplay).