Oswalt/Podsednik Complete All-Star Teams

[Lintyfresh85]

Re: Oswalt/Podsednik Complete All-Star Teams

HAFNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[p2xgamers]

Re: Oswalt/Podsednik Complete All-Star Teams

Yeah...those 41 stolen bases wouldn't be an asset at all!

Like I said before, I would much rather have Hafner's 17 HR's, 313 avg and 57 RBI. Not saying stolen bases aren't important but Hafner just seemed to be more important and overall did better.

EDIT: Stats updated

[NYJets]

Re: Oswalt/Podsednik Complete All-Star Teams

Having someone with that much speed, makes it harder on the defense, and the pitcher, which goes unnoticed in "stats".

When Podsednik is on base, .360 OBP, he causes problems that helps the rest of the lineup.

If he is making it so hard on the defense, why are his run totals so low? If he was helping the rest of the lineup so much, don't you think he'd score more often?

I'm not denying that a speedy runner being on base can have some effect on a pitcher. But there are lots of speedy runners. Doesn't mean they should all be all stars.

[Lintyfresh85]

Re: Oswalt/Podsednik Complete All-Star Teams

ACTUALLY.....

Travis Hafner .318 avg, 18hr, 58 rbi's, 54 R
Scott Podsednik .289 avg, 0 hr, 17 rbi's, 50 R


Hafner has even scored more runs than Podsednik and Podsednik bats leadoff!!!!!!!!!

[dieselboy]

Re: Oswalt/Podsednik Complete All-Star Teams

I'm not denying that a speedy runner being on base can have some effect on a pitcher. But there are lots of speedy runners. Doesn't mean they should all be all stars.

No, but this runner happens to lead the league in steals and is the catalyst for the best team in baseball.

[Lintyfresh85]

Re: Oswalt/Podsednik Complete All-Star Teams

once again....

his baserunning stats are worthless when he has scored less runs than Hafner...

Travis Hafner .318 avg, 18hr, 58 rbi's, 54 R
Scott Podsednik .289 avg, 0 hr, 17 rbi's, 50 R

[Dice]

Re: Oswalt/Podsednik Complete All-Star Teams

I can't argue with Oswalt, but I only have one thing to say about the Podsednik selection:

Why did I feel that the Posednik selection was going to garner some playa-hatin?

Now were there players who were deserving beside Scotty Pods? Of course. Was Pods not deserving? Absolutley NOT!

Now I'm not going to turn this into a Chicago-NY war but most NY fans need to spare me the NY-tears. I had a friend from NY who flew in for my wedding this weekend and we started talking about the old Bulls-Knick rivalry in the 90's. And I never called in a rivalry because the Bulls would always come out on top. The he starts to go on about how the refs called all the fouls for Jordan etc...boo hoo. Cry me a river and spare me the paddle.

[elicoleman]

Re: Oswalt/Podsednik Complete All-Star Teams

Also, Pod is tied for 2nd in Caught Stealing with 9.

[NYJets]

Re: Oswalt/Podsednik Complete All-Star Teams

No, but this runner happens to lead the league in steals and is the catalyst for the best team in baseball.

Again, if he's such a catalyst, why isn't he scoring many runs?

[elicoleman]

Re: Oswalt/Podsednik Complete All-Star Teams

The Indians score more runs...

White Sox - 402 Runs Scored
Indians - 388 Runs Scored

Try again.

[Porschebenz2001]

Re: Oswalt/Podsednik Complete All-Star Teams

Why did I feel that the Posednik selection was going to garner some playa-hatin?

Now were there players who were deserving beside Scotty Pods? Of course. Was Pods not deserving? Absolutley NOT!

Now I'm not going to turn this into a Chicago-NY war but most NY fans need to spare me the NY-tears. I had a friend from NY who flew in for my wedding this weekend and we started talking about the old Bulls-Knick rivalry in the 90's. And I never called in a rivalry because the Bulls would always come out on top. The he starts to go on about how the refs called all the fouls for Jordan etc...boo hoo. Cry me a river and spare me the paddle.

As a Yankee Fan I can say that Travis Hafner is the most deserving player not to be on the American League roster and Scott Posednik does not deserve it because like i said before he is just a good player not an all star.

[APD0290]

Re: Oswalt/Podsednik Complete All-Star Teams

Sure a Travis Hafner or Hideki Matsui is more deserving, but as the 30th man, how much playing time will they see anyways? Perhaps 1 at-bat, if that?

With Matsui or Hafner, getting them into the game would mean getting them an at-bat, taking away an AB from a better hitter. With Podsednik, you have someone who can come in late in the game, strictly as a pinch runner.

[soltrain]

Re: Oswalt/Podsednik Complete All-Star Teams

Again, if he's such a catalyst, why isn't he scoring many runs?

*Yawn* So much more goes into a player than his stats. Have you seen the Sox play this year? The guy absolutly tears up the basepaths and is an instant spark to our offense. He has also played VERY stellar D and has brought so much to the clubhouse for the White Sox. Hell, the best record in baseball shows that. There was a huge campaign going on around the park and last night after the game Buerhle even got on a mic and told everyone to vote for Scott because he deserves it...and I believe that. Scott deserves to be there.

If you want to talk about a player who shouldn't be there then talk about Konerko.

As for snubs? Cliff Pollite and Hermanson are pretty big ones.

[dieselboy]

Re: Oswalt/Podsednik Complete All-Star Teams

Hafner and Matsui have better numbers, but I don't have a huge problem with Podsednik being there.

He does lead the league in a catagory....

[Porschebenz2001]

Re: Oswalt/Podsednik Complete All-Star Teams

Sure a Travis Hafner or Hideki Matsui is more deserving, but as the 30th man, how much playing time will they see anyways? Perhaps 1 at-bat, if that?

With Matsui or Hafner, getting them into the game would mean getting them an at-bat, taking away an AB from a better hitter. With Podsednik, you have someone who can come in late in the game, strictly as a pinch runner.

thats a really good point u make man with the new world series rule the starters play a much bigger role now.